Gary Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Do men find pr*ck offencive,proberly so will be cutting the c-word now .Ken link Probably, but not me, missus calls me a pr*ck so many times, immature pr*ck, selfish pr*ck, thoughtless pr*ck, empty headed pr*ck the list is countless. But its when she calls me a thick pr*ck that its a compliment, know what i mean, maybe......maybe not Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) "been my thinking all along. Ever since I went to a night in Brum in the early 80s and it kicked off, with a load of them coming upstairs into 'our' room and taking the michael." Similar thing happened at Reading lates 70s early 80s Strange they've got no real club scene left now...... Edited March 22, 2005 by Soulsmith Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 And now they are coming into 'your' clubs and taking the micheal! ha ha. What ever next? link Fly by nights. Here today, gone over to beads and Janis Joplin tomorrow. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Probably, but not me, missus calls me a pr*ck so many times, immature pr*ck, selfish pr*ck, thoughtless pr*ck, empty headed pr*ck the list is countless. But its when she calls me a thick pr*ck that its a compliment, know what i mean, maybe......maybe not link Same here,only women though is it we save our worst insults for inabitants of venus ,supose they should learn to drive Ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 And now they are coming into 'your' clubs and taking the micheal! ha ha. What ever next? link yeah, and now we're stealing their records to play in our clubs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Excuse me but aren't a few of you getting the Jazz Funk/Caister scene mixed up with Deep Funk? One was a massive commercial phenomena the other is just James Mud and his mate ( ok and 16 others ) Trouty Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 "been my thinking all along. Ever since I went to a night in Brum in the early 80s and it kicked off, with a load of them coming upstairs into 'our' room and taking the michael." Similar thing happened at Reading lates 70s early 80s Strange they've got no real club scene left now...... link I couldnt work out why they had the hump with us. Was it because we were playing records ages before they heard them?? or because we didnt do they funk predecessor of line dancing? Did anyone ever watch that Sound Of Underground London? I think Eddie Pillar may have helped. They had footage of some of the old Jazz Funk alldayers at some place in Essex. Where groups of people all dressed in the same t-shirts danced in formation. Oh how wild they were Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) yeah, and now we're stealing their records to play in our clubs link Very true Mark but it's a two way thing Edited March 22, 2005 by Johnny One Trout Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) Excuse me but aren't a few of you getting the Jazz Funk/Caister scene mixed up with Deep Funk? One was a massive commercial phenomena the other is just James Mud and his mate ( ok and 16 others ) Trouty link At Caister they all wore dippy shirts, danced strangely, and listened to awful music. I went to Deep funk once for 3 hours. Seemed to last almost as long as a weekender, they all danced strangely (Over by the bar, even when the dancefloor was empty - could this be because they wanted to show the bar flys their latest moves?), the music was absolutely the worst I have ever heard in a club, (I used to roadie for bands that played in some terrible clubs too) And they nearly all wore hawaiian shirts, and jeans with turnups, so much so that we christened them Mini Keb, Mini Keb 2, Mini Keb 3.... Trickster...Mini Keb 55...etc Edited March 22, 2005 by in town Mikey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 we christened them Mini Keb, Mini Keb 2, Mini Keb 3.... Trickster...Mini Keb 55...etc link yes, we do that too Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 we christened them Mini Keb, etc link funniet thing is when they try to dance like him....have you seen that? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Supercorsa Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 The only thing that has shocked me on this thread is the constant schlaging off of my shirts. link What you need James is a nice checked Ben Sherman Button Down, plus a pair of 501's, moustache, etc., etc., Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest adam leaver Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I'm hardly a spokesperson for the 'funk scene', but - as Johnny suggests, I think many of you are mixing up the jazzfunk geezers of Caister and before with people listening to funk music now. As someone who caught the tail end of rare groove I can tell you that there are very different people listening to the music than there were back then. Many people into funk now are pretty young (relatively speaking) and so you're not really talking about 40 somethings jigging about in their jellies. As such, it is still a realtively new scene compared with Northern. Its also still pretty underground. Yes there are very few clubs - but this was also the case when Northern first started up (though the proliferation of bars in town centres may work against the development of as large a scene now). Decent clubs take a long time to build, but they are there - yes there's Deepfunk in London, but this isnt the only club. For example there's Fryer's Motherfunk club up in Scotland or Ben's massive club in Wales - all pulling large numbers of punters. There is also a collecting and digging ethic, which is dedicated enough for many people to pay Northern Soul prices for their 45s (often before their ultimate rarity is known!) The bizarre truth is that there is also a degree of crossover musically between the two scenes. Many tracks big on the soul scene now began on the funk scene (Hamilton Movement, Trace of Smoke, King Earnest etc) and vice versa (Cookie Scott, for example). So, before everyone starts getting their (baggy) pants in a knot about the funk 'scene', our parochiality, lack of girls and small numbers, perhaps you should a) take a look at yourselves next time you're at a half empty venue listening to the same old oldies and give some credit to a genuinely upcoming scene with the right ethic, innovative tunes and is struggling against the man to establish underground sounds. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest alison Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 give some credit to a genuinely upcoming scene with the right ethic, innovative tunes and is struggling against the man to establish underground sounds. link I like the cut of your jib Sir Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I like the cut of your jib Sir link Nah he's just a dodgey old Manc with a chip Actually a good point well put i thought Adam Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 funk, soul, disco, boogie.....all the same to me thing is, wots wrong with just going out dancing to some good choonz and having fun? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ShaneH Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I like the cut of your jib Sir link Its not up and coming at all. How can it be? I was going to lots of funk nights in the early 90's all over the place and the scene was quite vibrant. However this was on the back of Acid Jazz, UK Hop Hop, chart funk like Jamiroquai and the like. The scene has never been so quiet. There were 3 or 4 events per weekend in Sheffield alone back then. Nowadays there is virtually nothing all year. Also, no one criticised the funk scene until the twaddle from James Trouble was revealed. Shane Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
chrissie Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 funk, soul, disco, boogie.....all the same to me thing is, wots wrong with just going out dancing to some good choonz and having fun? link Don't agree with your first line, it's not all the same, we all have our preferances, but definately agree with the second!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 funk, soul, disco, boogie link Everybody talk about pop music...talk about.. is it stuck in yer head yet?? Rolf Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 funk, soul, disco, boogie.....all the same to me thing is, wots wrong with just going out dancing to some good choonz and having fun? link I cant dance :dance: Ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Its not up and coming at all. How can it be? I was going to lots of funk nights in the early 90's all over the place and the scene was quite vibrant. However this was on the back of Acid Jazz, UK Hop Hop, chart funk like Jamiroquai and the like. The scene has never been so quiet. There were 3 or 4 events per weekend in Sheffield alone back then. Nowadays there is virtually nothing all year. Also, no one criticised the funk scene until the twaddle from James Trouble was revealed. Shane link There's 'funk', and there's 'deepfunk'. In the early 90s the DJs didn't have the records we have now. The music was weak, and there was no ethic. Hence Jamiroquai etc being played. Now the deepfunk scene is looking for new sounds all the time and there is an uncompromising attitude to quality. A truely innovative and up and coming scene with very little relation to acid jazz and all that jazz at all. I think most 'soulies' would be surprised by what many of top funk collectors can pull out and play. But as has been pointed out before, at the moment most of the innovation is going on online and not in clubs. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Also, no one criticised the funk scene until the twaddle from James Trouble was revealed. link Noice norman, down boy! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ShaneH Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 There's 'funk', and there's 'deepfunk'. In the early 90s the DJs didn't have the records we have now. The music was weak, and there was no ethic. Hence Jamiroquai etc being played. Now the deepfunk scene is looking for new sounds all the time and there is an uncompromising attitude to quality. A truely innovative and up and coming scene with very little relation to acid jazz and all that jazz at all. I think most 'soulies' would be surprised by what many of top funk collectors can pull out and play. But as has been pointed out before, at the moment most of the innovation is going on online and not in clubs. link fair enough James. I accept you are in touch with things however I think it would be a good idea for you to post up the current 'hot' sounds. I would give them a listen for deffo. By the way has anyone been onto the funk forum to rattle their cages yet? James, when is the best time to catch someone on there mate? Its only a bit of fun and not a swear word to be seen! Shane Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Don't agree with your first line, it's not all the same, we all have our preferances link ok, i'll come back on that......wot about the sharon jones tune that trickster played at the last 100club (filled the floor btw) that me and jt were laughin about on here earlier in the week? funk, jazz, soul, r'n'b? actually, it's all of those things these categories are all artificial and contrived would be more grown-up to focus on the things we have in common (but sayin that, i hate them depressing "beat ballads" that were popular on the northern scene a while back ) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Probably, but not me, missus calls me a pr*ck so many times, immature pr*ck, selfish pr*ck, thoughtless pr*ck, empty headed pr*ck the list is countless. But its when she calls me a thick pr*ck that its a compliment, know what i mean, maybe......maybe not link Think we can assume you are a prick then mate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 Blimey!!! Just got back and decided to have a look if anybody had replied to my post and found all this stuff Think I'd better make my point clear. The title of this post was supposed to be a bit tongue in cheek and I knew JT would not be able to resist steaming in. He's got broad shoulders though and I think this thread shows he can take it as well as give it out. To be honest I'm often amused at James' posts but think he does go off a bit half cocked sometimes - and I'd be a liar if I didn't say that I thought his message on the funk45 message board struck me as a bit of an attempt to ingratiate himself with his critics on there by having a pop at an easy stereotypical target (ie all Northern Soul collectors are narrow minded and unsophisticated) Thing is I'm now faced with people slagging off the funk scene - which is the last thing I wanted. What do you think I was doing on that board in the first place? Can we have nice cuddly peace back now please Godz Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (but sayin that, i hate them depressing "beat ballads" that were popular on the northern scene a while back ) link Surely you mean 'Show Tunes' Mark ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gary Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Think we can assume you are a prick then mate link :graynone: And a big one at that Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Surely you mean 'Show Tunes' Mark ? link Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
chrissie Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Blimey!!! Just got back and decided to have a look if anybody had replied to my post and found all this stuff Think I'd better make my point clear. The title of this post was supposed to be a bit tongue in cheek and I knew JT would not be able to resist steaming in. He's got broad shoulders though and I think this thread shows he can take it as well as give it out. To be honest I'm often amused at James' posts but think he does go off a bit half cocked sometimes - and I'd be a liar if I didn't say that I thought his message on the funk45 message board struck me as a bit of an attempt to ingratiate himself with his critics on there by having a pop at an easy stereotypical target (ie all Northern Soul collectors are narrow minded and unsophisticated) Thing is I'm now faced with people slagging off the funk scene - which is the last thing I wanted. What do you think I was doing on that board in the first place? Can we have nice cuddly peace back now please Godz link CUDDLE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I'm hardly a spokesperson for the 'funk scene', but - as Johnny suggests, I think many of you are mixing up the jazzfunk geezers of Caister and before with people listening to funk music now. As someone who caught the tail end of rare groove I can tell you that there are very different people listening to the music than there were back then. Many people into funk now are pretty young (relatively speaking) and so you're not really talking about 40 somethings jigging about in their jellies. As such, it is still a realtively new scene compared with Northern. Its also still pretty underground. Yes there are very few clubs - but this was also the case when Northern first started up (though the proliferation of bars in town centres may work against the development of as large a scene now). Decent clubs take a long time to build, but they are there - yes there's Deepfunk in London, but this isnt the only club. For example there's Fryer's Motherfunk club up in Scotland or Ben's massive club in Wales - all pulling large numbers of punters. There is also a collecting and digging ethic, which is dedicated enough for many people to pay Northern Soul prices for their 45s (often before their ultimate rarity is known!) The bizarre truth is that there is also a degree of crossover musically between the two scenes. Many tracks big on the soul scene now began on the funk scene (Hamilton Movement, Trace of Smoke, King Earnest etc) and vice versa (Cookie Scott, for example). So, before everyone starts getting their (baggy) pants in a knot about the funk 'scene', our parochiality, lack of girls and small numbers, perhaps you should a) take a look at yourselves next time you're at a half empty venue listening to the same old oldies and give some credit to a genuinely upcoming scene with the right ethic, innovative tunes and is struggling against the man to establish underground sounds. link I thought this was a very good post So good, in fact, that I'm not even going to get into an academic argument about who heard the Hamilton Movement first Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 fair enough James. I accept you are in touch with things however I think it would be a good idea for you to post up the current 'hot' sounds. I would give them a listen for deffo. By the way has anyone been onto the funk forum to rattle their cages yet? James, when is the best time to catch someone on there mate? Its only a bit of fun and not a swear word to be seen! Shane link Don't do it Shane! There's some rough boys on there.....you don't want to play with them! James, can I copy that cd for Shane for the weekend..... if I leave off the two "Northern" tracks? Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I thought this was a very good post So good, in fact, that I'm not even going to get into an academic argument about who heard the Hamilton Movement first link i heard it before you ya fekker Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 There's some rough boys on there.....you don't want to play with them! link yeah.....they're from hawaii Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 i heard it before you ya fekker link Well, I'm not one to argue, sonny, but I'll just ask...."when?" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Don't do it Shane! There's some rough boys on there.....you don't want to play with them! James, can I copy that cd for Shane for the weekend..... if I leave off the two "Northern" tracks? Dave link if you like. leave the northern bits on as well if you want, I'm not bothered (as long as you didn't get me pissed and got me to put my detroit acetate on there and i don't remember doing it). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ShaneH Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Don't do it Shane! There's some rough boys on there.....you don't want to play with them! James, can I copy that cd for Shane for the weekend..... if I leave off the two "Northern" tracks? Dave link one of my oldest mates Mike Parry is one of the infamous 17. He has filled me in on many goings on over the years. Dave, going on your current form I half expect you to disagree with the above see you at sheridans maybe mate. Shane Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Well, I'm not one to argue, sonny, but I'll just ask...."when?" link 1980.....caister soul weekender Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 if you like. leave the northern bits on as well if you want, I'm not bothered (as long as you didn't get me pissed and got me to put my detroit acetate on there and i don't remember doing it). link do you mean that ian levine test pressing you peeled the label off james? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 if you like. leave the northern bits on as well if you want, I'm not bothered (as long as you didn't get me pissed and got me to put my detroit acetate on there and i don't remember doing it). link Me? Get somebody pissed? Heaven forbid.....what would Monsignor C say? (there is a certain member of this board who was unable to remember any of the Thursday night drinking at Prestatyn) And no, that isn't on there. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I use pork pie jelly on my mullet. Gotta be a wigan pie though. Shane link I find the sweat from my beer towel, and waist band of my trousers helps keep mine in place. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 one of my oldest mates Mike Parry is one of the infamous 17. He has filled me in on many goings on over the years. Dave, going on your current form I half expect you to disagree with the above see you at sheridans maybe mate. Shane link Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (there is a certain member of this board who was unable to remember any of the Thursday night drinking at Prestatyn) link did we go to prestatyn? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I like chips, me. Aye up! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest woolie mark Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I like chips, me. Aye up! link hear hear most sensible post on here all day! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mattbolton Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Man, I'm glad this topic came up. Doing the 100 Club flyer, I've been driving myself mad at how 'James Trouble' messed up my designers 'grid'. 'ADY BUTCH MICK & C*NT' now looks stunning in 228 point. Cheers James. All I've gotta do now is find someone to leech that other guest... 'Warren from Boogaloo' is a right ball-ache to fit.... Bitch fight anyone? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulster22 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Oh, and I don't mind an online scrap, so bring it on you normans! link Us "normans" say Funk off you Cant Regards Soulster22 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 What you need James is a nice checked Ben Sherman Button Down, plus a pair of 501's, moustache, etc., etc., link ========= Sounds like you're spending too much time on the village people scene Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) The only time Dave as seen a church is when he took the lead off the roof  link Ha ha! Brings back some memories. Edited March 23, 2005 by OutsideNow Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Cover Up's have been part of the scene since the year dot often the practice of well read, well informed DJ's and collectors who know their subject inside out, it's all about keeping a tune exclusive to them for as long as they can Big deal. Someone BUYS a record and gains cash and kudos on the back of the people who 'wrote/played on/published' the damn thing. Keep the faith Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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