Ric-tic Posted December 28, 2007 Posted December 28, 2007 just watched dance britannia on bbc 4 very enjoyable, tomorrow is the 70s,at the end they showed a some very brief clips and im sure theres something for us very briefely they showed a colour clip of possibly n/soulers that i have never seen, so brief only a couple of seconds. i dont want to build up anyones hopes but could could this be the lost TOTP footsie thing, did anyone tape this to confirm? [shouldnt have said this as im probibly gonna be wrong ]
Guest nubes Posted December 28, 2007 Posted December 28, 2007 just watched dance britannia on bbc 4 very enjoyable, tomorrow is the 70s,at the end they showed a some very brief clips and im sure theres something for us very briefely they showed a colour clip of possibly n/soulers that i have never seen, so brief only a couple of seconds. i dont want to build up anyones hopes but could could this be the lost TOTP footsie thing, did anyone tape this to confirm? [shouldnt have said this as im probibly gonna be wrong ] Yes it was rather....i also saw that ....along with the clip off Vernon from Bradford...spinning at the Casino...have already sky+'sed it for tomorrow night ....Delxxx
Mike Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 looks like can view whole episode on the new bbc iplayer thing https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b008m3mr.shtml check the below out for a laugh Brits Can't Dance Duration: 30 minutes A celebration of the not-so-successful example of Brits hoofing on TV, from Step This Way to Strictly Come Dancing.
Soul Shrews Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Thought this was a repeat showing of the series shown earlier this year ? If thats the case then I think there was a thread about it at the time. I could have this very wrong tho cos I don't pay the tele that much attention Cheers Paul
Guest topcatnumpty1 Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 just watched the first 2 episodes via the BBCmodern download thingy----very intresting(yeh there,s a bit of --This England--with Bradford,s Vernon dancing in his bags) but lots of 60,s footage-- The Cy Laurie Jazz Club in Ham Yard(which was later the Scene) Different Ready Steady Go footage Good interviews with Chris Hill.Paolo Hewitt Some great early Ska,Reggae black and white film Dancers at The Flamingo--and tales about the G.I.,s Next one is 1970 to the present day Regards Tony C.Thought this was a repeat showing of the series shown earlier this year ? If thats the case then I think there was a thread about it at the time. I could have this very wrong tho cos I don't pay the tele that much attention Cheers Paul
Ric-tic Posted December 29, 2007 Author Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) just watched the first 2 episodes via the BBCmodern download thingy----very intresting(yeh there,s a bit of --This England--with Bradford,s Vernon dancing in his bags) but lots of 60,s footage-- The Cy Laurie Jazz Club in Ham Yard(which was later the Scene) Different Ready Steady Go footage Good interviews with Chris Hill.Paolo Hewitt Some great early Ska,Reggae black and white film Dancers at The Flamingo--and tales about the G.I.,s Next one is 1970 to the present day Regards Tony C. ive just rewatched the end of episode 2 and it IS the top of the pops footsee clip that is gonna be in it tonight....9pm [probibly 2 seconds ] Edited December 29, 2007 by ric-tic
Guest skorpiano Posted December 29, 2007 Posted December 29, 2007 Can anyone up this here! I am in Stockholm and the BBC iPlayer wont let me play it. Here's hoping!
Ric-tic Posted December 29, 2007 Author Posted December 29, 2007 Can anyone up this here! I am in Stockholm and the BBC iPlayer wont let me play it. Here's hoping! i downloaded it today and did read that you can only get it in the u.k and that they are working on a version for the rest of the world
Guest Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 The inclusion and acknowledgement in the programme , of the influence of NS into the culture of dancing , was given in my estimation , a more creditable treatment - and understanding - of " what " the genre was all about , than it has had previously in documentaries of a similar nature ........ Interesting to see the still photographs with Arthur Fenn and Clarky in them ...... 30 plus years on , and Arthur still looks the same ...... Malc Burton
Barry Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 I think we are the only scene that have ever actually properly danced in the truest sense of the word, don't you think Malc? Dictionary defintion: to move one's feet or body, or both, rhythmically in a pattern of steps, esp. to the accompaniment of music. Look at the defining genres over the years - you have the Reggae/Ska clockwork movements, the Rock 'n' Roll hop or reliance on a partner thing that they had, The Mod/Mersey Beat/60's Pop thing (Shing a Ling etc), Rock (??), punk (right!? ), House (...and people had lost the basics by this time). A quality Soulie dancing is still to this day awe inspiring, I know you know, I'm not teaching you how to suck eggs - I'm just taking the opportunity to revel in the way we dance. I have taken many a newbie out over the years and they have found it jaw-dropping, which it is. The only inbreds that take the piss are the usual uneducated, insecure, jealousy riddled expendables.
Guest skorpiano Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 i downloaded it today and did read that you can only get it in the u.k and that they are working on a version for the rest of the world Ah well, I guess I'll have to wait. Thanks anyway.
Mike Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 just quickly watched the first 3 or 4 mins northern bit agree with what you say Malc thought was done in a good way no new footage in early bit , any later https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b008m3tf.shtml
Jim G Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 last nights here https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00...on_pid=b008m831
Rob Wigley Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 watched it last night, same old Wigan footage, but still its there in History for future generations to laugh at ! 3 stand outs Chris Hill at the Caister weekenders The footage of everyone of their heads on the Acid House scene 80s/90s and the Granny trying to Pole Dance Oh and what about the bird saying the Northern scene was all about Tough Northern Blokes trying to be like Billy Elliot Enjoyed it alot !
Epic Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 As per usual the chemical side of things had to be mentioned. Of course Russ informed the nation that the attendees were all fuelled on "Lucozade" - Priceless!!
Drew3 Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 last nights here https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00...on_pid=b008m831 I can bring up the page from this link but nothing happens. Any advice? KTF. Drew.
Guest topcatnumpty1 Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 My mother(73) has just informed me she watched it --and said--"your lot(Wigan) had more energy and enthusiasm,than any of the others---but why do they always mention the wamphetamine(??? she,s always said that!!) you and your friends are still travelling all over nowadays--so it can,t have been the pills that you went for,and who was that nice polite man that was on about lucozade??" B.T.W Rictic--i never saw the Top of the pops bit(Footsee) you mentioned last night--did anyone? in fact i haven,t seen it 4 yrs. --it,s always the same clips--This England, Blackburn,Morecambe etc. I thoroughly enjoyed all 3 shows and was pleased the Northern Scene got the last word on SERIES about nearly 100 yrs of dance music --with THE Casualeers being the fade out record! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO FRIENDS OLD AND NEW Tony Coleby and RaniAs per usual the chemical side of things had to be mentioned. Of course Russ informed the nation that the attendees were all fuelled on "Lucozade" - Priceless!!
Pete S Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 B.T.W Rictic--i never saw the Top of the pops bit(Footsee) you mentioned last night--did anyone? in fact i haven,t seen it 4 yrs. --it,s always the same clips--This England, Blackburn,Morecambe etc. It's never been reshown...even when UK Gold reran all existing TOTP episodes, it wasn't shown.
Guest topcatnumpty1 Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 Cheers Pete--i thought i,d missed summat--that explains why i,ve not seen it in years(since 1974?? in fact--lol Tony Coleby
Maark Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 watched it last night, same old Wigan footage, but still its there in History for future generations to laugh at ! 3 stand outs Chris Hill at the Caister weekenders The footage of everyone of their heads on the Acid House scene 80s/90s and the Granny trying to Pole Dance Oh and what about the bird saying the Northern scene was all about Tough Northern Blokes trying to be like Billy Elliot Enjoyed it alot ! My god , they didn't miss the bit out about them all being miners did they? All northerners are tough, miners and have 10ft of snow outside for 6 months a year........yawn!
Guest FrostyJak Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 Oh and what about the bird saying the Northern scene was all about Tough Northern Blokes trying to be like Billy Elliot Enjoyed it alot ! Great programe some cracking footage. My teenager loved it saying "I can't imagine you doing that dad" about the wigan stuff
De-to Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 It's never been reshown...even when UK Gold reran all existing TOTP episodes, it wasn't shown.i found this website with old totp archive material but im not very good with computers not sure how you can view any of the progs,d,ross/g,knight are on there but gave up trying to have a look at them,help!!!!. https://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2821/programmes/f2m5/episodes
De-to Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 who is the geezer from the this england video saying that if wigan ever shut it would be like instant nostalgia etc,i can remember him at the casino in the early years but cannot remember his name wasnt he a big 45 collector??,
Pete S Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 who is the geezer from the this england video saying that if wigan ever shut it would be like instant nostalgia etc,i can remember him at the casino in the early years but cannot remember his name wasnt he a big 45 collector??, That was Dave Withers...well known and respected (ex) dj, dealer and collector
Pete S Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 i found this website with old totp archive material but im not very good with computers not sure how you can view any of the progs,d,ross/g,knight are on there but gave up trying to have a look at them,help!!!!. https://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2821/programmes/f2m5/episodes They don't work unfortunately - damn!
De-to Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 They don't work unfortunately - damn! thanks for that pete i thought it was hopeless at computers me!!!,pity cos i would have liked to view some of the vids,doh!!!
Ric-tic Posted December 30, 2007 Author Posted December 30, 2007 B.T.W Rictic--i never saw the Top of the pops bit(Footsee) you mentioned last night--did anyone? in fact i haven,t seen it 4 yrs. --it,s always the same clips--This England, Blackburn,Morecambe etc. it was at the end of part two in the trailor for part 3 if you watch in the bbc iplayer take it to approx 1 minute before the end and you will see, just dont blink
Deegee Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 i found this website with old totp archive material but im not very good with computers not sure how you can view any of the progs,d,ross/g,knight are on there but gave up trying to have a look at them,help!!!!. https://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2821/programmes/f2m5/episodes If you scroll down the page with all the years on theres a link to musicbrainz where they show you how to view I think you have to download a player first. It looks a bloody good site for sharing music files so thanks for posting.
Deegee Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 If you scroll down the page with all the years on theres a link to musicbrainz where they show you how to view I think you have to download a player first. It looks a bloody good site for sharing music files so thanks for posting. Its a bit confusing tho - will post up when ive sussed it!
Rob Wigley Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 PART THREE IS BEING REPEATED NEW YEARS DAY AT 9.10 PM BBC 4--Freeview Channel 9 Be warned all the Northern Stuff is on at the start--don't miss it !!
De-to Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 Its a bit confusing tho - will post up when ive sussed it! hello gancho and all,hope you can work it out coz im already confused
Guest Richard Bergman Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 (edited) On a related topic did anyone catch the Last Man at Hammersmith Palais ? Some good informative interviews apart from rent a quote Robert Elms. There is just something about that man that makes me want to rest my head above those raising bollards in rush hour. Back on subject the "Dance" series has been very good. Edited December 31, 2007 by Richard Bergman
Pete S Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 On a related topic did anyone catch the Last Man at Hammersmith Palais ? Some good informative interviews apart from rent a quote Robert Elms. There is just somehting about this man that makes me want to rest my head above those raising bollards in rush hour. I did, brilliant program. What amazed me is how many people were on the dancefloor back in the 40's...they barely had room to move
John Elias Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 I did, brilliant program. What amazed me is how many people were on the dancefloor back in the 40's...they barely had room to move just like the Ritz(Manchester) then?
Guest nusha Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 just quickly watched the first 3 or 4 mins northern bit agree with what you say Malc thought was done in a good way no new footage in early bit , any later https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b008m3tf.shtml Northern dancing is descended from The Lindy Hoppers..The greatest expressionists of all time..
Guest Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 (edited) On a related topic did anyone catch the Last Man at Hammersmith Palais ? Some good informative interviews apart from rent a quote Robert Elms. There is just something about that man that makes me want to rest my head above those raising bollards in rush hour. Back on subject the "Dance" series has been very good. Surely you did not expect any musical documentary programme such as " LMIHP " not to feature the spoutings of Dutch Elms ? ...... A good programme overall , but sadly spoilt for me , by the b******s that man speaks ...... If the Queen was to give knighthoods for services to bull***t , Dutch would receive one without a doubt ...... Malc Burton Edited December 31, 2007 by Malc Burton
Guest Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 (edited) Northern dancing is descended from The Lindy Hoppers..The greatest expressionists of all time.. The Lindy Hop evolved in the U.S. in the late 1920s and the early 1930s , and was an " organic " fusion of many musical styles that were allied to dances that were popular during those times , predominately jazz, tap and charleston ...... The are many characteristic similarities between Lindy Hoppers and the dancers on the NS scene ...... Malc Burton Edited December 31, 2007 by Malc Burton
Rob Wigley Posted January 1, 2008 Posted January 1, 2008 PART THREE IS BEING REPEATED NEW YEARS DAY AT 9.10 PM BBC 4--Freeview Channel 9 Be warned all the Northern Stuff is on at the start--don't miss it !! JUST A REMINDER FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT
paultp Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Just watched this on the BBC player and as people say, much of it is rehashed from previous documentaries. Russ's lucosade comment is priceless though. One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off. Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on? Just interested, not taking the p*ss or anything. Cheers Paul
Guest Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Just watched this on the BBC player and as people say, much of it is rehashed from previous documentaries. Russ's lucosade comment is priceless though. One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off. Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on? Just interested, not taking the p*ss or anything. Cheers Paul But I drink Lucozade I thought everyone did?!
Citizen P Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off. CORRECT- or under it Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on?-WHAT? with these eyes-NO Cheers Paul ATB Tony
Steve G Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Just watched this on the BBC player and as people say, much of it is rehashed from previous documentaries. Russ's lucosade comment is priceless though. One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off. Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on? Just interested, not taking the p*ss or anything. Cheers Paul It was only filmed on the one night, and was quite controversial at the time - many people saw it as commercialisation of the scene, and thus an unwelcome media intrusion. I remember watching "This England" with my parents when it was aired - how embarrassing was that?
Robin S Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 It was only filmed on the one night, and was quite controversial at the time - many people saw it as commercialisation of the scene, and thus an unwelcome media intrusion. I remember watching "This England" with my parents when it was aired - how embarrassing was that? Very embarrasing for my brother Neil, we were watching it with my Mum and there he is in the queue outside flicking the "v's" at the camera crew...
Guest taffy Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Just watched this on the BBC player and as people say, much of it is rehashed from previous documentaries. Russ's lucosade comment is priceless though. One of the reasons that there isn't much footage of Wigan is because (I think) it was only filmed once. From people that were there at the time most I've met claim to have been on the balcony shouting for the lights to be turned off. Does anyone now regret not being on the floor while the filming was going on? Just interested, not taking the p*ss or anything. Cheers Paul i was there that night and it's true nobody wanted the media there hence the dancefloor being quite sparce and everyone headed up to the balcony or mr m's,although my mate happened to have a cine camera with him at the time and filmed some footage himself,still trying to get it off him after all these years i'm sure there was another nighter where the lights were on for some reason and a live act on also,anyone confirm?
sister dawn Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 ya cant beat a good bit of shaggin' on the dance floor especially with a backing track such as the featured to do it too ">
Zed1 Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) i'm sure there was another nighter where the lights were on for some reason and a live act on also,anyone confirm? Think you are right......... I was there for the 'This England' filming, but also remember a nite around a year or so later where the lights stayed on for the first hour-ish.......no idea why though?... From memory live acts around then were... Edwin (of course), Martha Reeves, Jnr Walker, The Showstoppers, Ann Peebles and IIRC Tommy Hunt, unless it had something to do with the above?.. Also I seem to recall 'Sad-Cafe' playing live prior to a Niter starting, and thier 'Gig' over-running, but again if this was the reason for the above I don't remember. Edited January 2, 2008 by Teapot
Tabs Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 It was only filmed on the one night, and was quite controversial at the time - many people saw it as commercialisation of the scene, and thus an unwelcome media intrusion. I remember watching "This England" with my parents when it was aired - how embarrassing was that? Very similar experience but watched it with Eddie Hubbard when it was first aired. Like a lot of people I didn't want it filmed in the first place. With hindsight it is the only footage available, to my knowledge, so not neccessarily a bad thing in that respect.
Pete S Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Its a bit confusing tho - will post up when ive sussed it! You won't suss it because it's just a catalogueing system!
Pete S Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 i was there that night and it's true nobody wanted the media there hence the dancefloor being quite sparce and everyone headed up to the balcony or mr m's,although my mate happened to have a cine camera with him at the time and filmed some footage himself,still trying to get it off him after all these years i'm sure there was another nighter where the lights were on for some reason and a live act on also,anyone confirm? It was the following week - the lights were on for 2 weeks in a row
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