That "tumbleweed Moment"

[Guest outonthefloor]

how do you like you SOUL sir, rare or well done

lol xxxx quality

[Guest Bearsy]

i'm on there tomorrow as well pete (again) so i'll leave my copy at home mate, make room in my box for the snake!!!

Pete wants to play that too so why dont you just share his box coops

sorry Pete

[Pete Eccles]

i'm on there tomorrow as well pete (again) so i'll leave my copy at home mate, make room in my box for the snake!!!

Will look forward to meeting you Coops, re - TJ no worries if you wanna spin it again, see how it goes

A few scoops (as Ian and Clare G kindly putting me up so no driving) and a good laugh is the main aim, also looking forward to catching up with Yocky, top guy, and its been a while,

See you there

[Pete Eccles]

Pete wants to play that too so why dont you just share his box coops

sorry Pete

Don't apologise Paul, just as long as i don't have to play out of YOUR box

[Pete Eccles]

Completely understand Pete, Kingsway is local for me and I know what its all about.

I'll have my up tempo oldies head firmly on tomorrow and have a good blow out but its always nice to hear one or two which make you think "havent heard this for a bit"

Anyway I'll try and say hello tomorrow night, what time are you on?

Cheers

Yea Steve look forward to meeting one or two 'names' tomorrow

Time? No idea till i get there, hopefully about 6 pint oclock

[Guest Bearsy]

Don't apologise Paul, just as long as i don't have to play out of YOUR box

i wouldnt put that on my worst enemy never mind a mate

[chrissie]

sorry , not for me chrissie Holly St James etc , its like The Devils nails across a blackboard for me

Only played HstJ just to wind Steve G up cos he hates it But you can't knock Terri Bryant.....surely

QoFxx

[Simon M]

Only played HstJ just to wind Steve G up cos he hates it But you can't knock Terri Bryant.....surely

QoFxx

Steve G , hes a good Dj .. narr Terri Bryant not too keen

[chrissie]

Steve G , hes a good Dj .. narr Terri Bryant not too keen

Steve G is one of the best and even better when he played sets like he did last time at Blue skies, no disco pure heavenly 60s. That guy hs a great collection and as awesome when playing 60s as that other stuff he sometimes plays

Your just not in touch with your femanine side,.like bearsy is Mind you, bought a few nice ones recently that even you may approve of.........

Anna Craig, Bernadette Peters, jackie ross x 2, and a very special Maxine Brown b side, to name jsut a few.

QoFxx

Edited December 30, 2007 by chrissie

[Simon M]

Your just not in touch with your femanine side,.like bearsy is Mind you, bought a few nice ones recently that even you may approve of.........

QoFxx

yeah Bearsy is , hes chasing that Judy Street on manships what what !!

[Guest Bearsy]

yeah Bearsy is , hes chasing that Judy Street on manships what what !!

[chrissie]

yeah Bearsy is , hes chasing that Judy Street on manships what what !!

Now you are just being silly, even Bearsy has better taste than that

QoFxx

PS To all you oldies lovers, there is nothing wrong with Judy Street but just don't want to hear it out. It was a great record in its day

[Soulman]

Against the DJ point of view, we need to be able to introduce everything across the board in one set. The DJ point of view being "filling the floor" is something of a necessity from the professional point of view but to continue the scne and progress it, new things have to be introduced. Too much wine to be coherant I'm afaid. But I'm sure you know where I'm coming from hic hic

[Coops]

Against the DJ point of view, we need to be able to introduce everything across the board in one set. The DJ point of view being "filling the floor" is something of a necessity from the professional point of view but to continue the scne and progress it, new things have to be introduced. Too much wine to be coherant I'm afaid. But I'm sure you know where I'm coming from hic hic

i know what you're saying soulman but at kingsway hall if one doesn't deliver a footfall on the floor with 60s oldies one may be asked to leave the decks!!!

..... but, as long as one is aware of that before starting ones' set then it's fine.

kingsway hall delivers what it says on the tin 100% oldies, and although my perfect night is full of soul from all decades, tempos and genre i do like dipping my toe in the time warp that is Kingsway Hall on occassions, i just can never find a pair of white socks when i need them .

[Pete Eccles]

i know what you're saying soulman but at kingsway hall if one doesn't deliver a footfall on the floor with 60s oldies one may be asked to leave the decks!!!

..... but, as long as one is aware of that before starting ones' set then it's fine.

kingsway hall delivers what it says on the tin 100% oldies, and although my perfect night is full of soul from all decades, tempos and genre i do like dipping my toe in the time warp that is Kingsway Hall on occassions, i just can never find a pair of white socks when i need them .

Agree totally, horses for courses as they say, and at Kingsway Hall they know what they like, what they want, and really know how to enjoy it,

Absolutely nothing wrong with that, can't wait for tomorrow and if i bring nothing new to the table and help contribute to a great night (which it most definitely will be) then

Edited December 30, 2007 by pete60

[Pete Eccles]

Against the DJ point of view, we need to be able to introduce everything across the board in one set. The DJ point of view being "filling the floor" is something of a necessity from the professional point of view but to continue the scne and progress it, new things have to be introduced. Too much wine to be coherant I'm afaid. But I'm sure you know where I'm coming from hic hic

Soulman, understand fully where your coming from, regardless of your wine intake, but can't help noticing your preferred event, KGH, it just happens i am resident at KGH and it doesn't get much better than 1800 peeps having a great night out accross 3/4 rooms, and if its the northern/motown room at KGH that you prefer then Kingsway Hall will be right up your street,

Just to keep on topic, rarely tumbleweed at either event fingers crossed

BTW indulged a little to much meself now maybe hic

[Coops]

Soulman, understand fully where your coming from, regardless of your wine intake, but can't help noticing your preferred event, KGH, it just happens i am resident at KGH and it doesn't get much better than 1800 peeps having a great night out accross 3/4 rooms, and if its the northern/motown room at KGH that you prefer then Kingsway Hall will be right up your street,

Just to keep on topic, rarely tumbleweed at either event fingers crossed

BTW indulged a little to much meself now maybe hic

having said that pete, i had an 'almost tumble weed moment' with velvelettes - he's the one but i think that's because they paying punters hadn't much heard of it.

[Guest smudgesmith]

Hi Mick...saw this happen a Bentinck once ...the offending tune was "Some Good In Everything Bad"...great classic tune, I was gob smacked, never would have thought of it as a floor clearer

Bazza

Hey Bazza i dont know you...but are you sure this was not "The One Alone" if it was it was probably me that played it.Cleared the floor,stood behind the decks for 2mins plus with finger up my arse.

[sister dawn]

i wasn't just gobsmacked, it sort of confused me for a moment

thought i'd just entered the twilight zone.

a bit like making an entrance to a party in fancy dress and everyone else is in black tie!!

NOTHING NEW THERE THEN COOPS ON BOTH ACCOUNTS

[Bazza]

Hey Bazza i dont know you...but are you sure this was not "The One Alone" if it was it was probably me that played it.Cleared the floor,stood behind the decks for 2mins plus with finger up my arse.

Hi smudge, it may have been....I think the comment you made was somthing like " well this will grow on you" summat like that...you could hear the wind whistling over the decks

Bazza

[Jimmy A]

Hi smudge, it may have been....I think the comment you made was somthing like " well this will grow on you" summat like that...you could hear the wind whistling over the decks

Bazza

either one would get the chim stroking going in notts .Both tracks where big spins down the union trent side in the early days and as some of us know the union was a no go for handbaggers

[Ged Parker]

Every DJ worth his (her) salt should be brave enough to risk emptying the floor. If you only want certainty we'll never move on. TJ Williams was a safe choice IMO don't you wish you'd emptied the floor with something adventurous now.

[Coops]

Every DJ worth his (her) salt should be brave enough to risk emptying the floor. If you only want certainty we'll never move on. TJ Williams was a safe choice IMO don't you wish you'd emptied the floor with something adventurous now.

not really, i'm paid not to empty the floor whether being adventurous or not!

[Jimmy A]

not really, i'm paid not to empty the floor whether being adventurous or not!

i dont think anyone is,on the same note "djs" are not payed to bore paying punters with over and out played tunes.t j williams is great tune,as said had one myself but as with alot of tunes today everyone plays the same stuff and they quickly become boring.A good mainstream dj should not have to rely on a hot box and when it fails come on here moaning as to why punters arent dancing to their records

[Coops]

i dont think anyone is,on the same note "djs" are not payed to bore paying punters with over and out played tunes.t j williams is great tune,as said had one myself but as with alot of tunes today everyone plays the same stuff and they quickly become boring.A good mainstream dj should not have to rely on a hot box and when it fails come on here moaning as to why punters arent dancing to their records

i play what i'm payed to play. if a promoter wants me to play stuff that don't get aired much then that's what he or she gets, if a promoter wants me to fill the floor that's what he or she gets. managed that at kingsway hall last night with a lettle deviation from the regular 100mph oldies sets they enjoy but it would have been disrespectful to the paying public for me to play my jean dushon just because i like it and it don't get much of an airing.

but........

i'm certainly not criticising any other dee-jay for his or her policy, if we were all the same then the 'scene' would fly up it's own butt.

[Jimmy A]

i play what i'm payed to play. if a promoter wants me to play stuff that don't get aired much then that's what he or she gets, if a promoter wants me to fill the floor that's what he or she gets. managed that at kingsway hall last night with a lettle deviation from the regular 100mph oldies sets they enjoy but it would have been disrespectful to the paying public for me to play my jean dushon just because i like it and it don't get much of an airing.

but........

i'm certainly not criticising any other dee-jay for his or her policy, if we were all the same then the 'scene' would fly up it's own butt.

this is where the scene has gone a bit wrong.Djs being told what they can and cant play.As for the likes of kingsway hall and the forest town when are they going to move on a little,lets face it 45s like bobby hebb,vel-vets, etc etc,although great 45s are still fookin boring even for an oldies do.

going back,promoters asking,telling djs what to play i think is wrong,they either dont trust the dj or they have no confidence in their event.It was never like this,you went to a soul do and a djs played soul,nowdays its all to business like and thats where its going wrong

[Pete Eccles]

i play what i'm payed to play. if a promoter wants me to play stuff that don't get aired much then that's what he or she gets, if a promoter wants me to fill the floor that's what he or she gets. managed that at kingsway hall last night with a lettle deviation from the regular 100mph oldies sets they enjoy but it would have been disrespectful to the paying public for me to play my jean dushon just because i like it and it don't get much of an airing.

but........

i'm certainly not criticising any other dee-jay for his or her policy, if we were all the same then the 'scene' would fly up it's own butt.

Hello Mike,

Good to meet you last night, and a very enjoyable night it was

I think, for what its worth, that some events are far more 'dance floor driven' than others, some events to lose half the floor for a track or two isn't such a bad thing, others such as Kingsway where the emphasis is on entertainment rather than education to lose the 'floor' can be very scarey,

Like you say, different promoters/events expect different things from the night, and any DJ deciding he/she knows better than the promoter or the paying customers of any particular event is running the risk of losing any future bookings, in the case of Kingsway finishing their spot

[Jimmy A]

i play what i'm payed to play. if a promoter wants me to play stuff that don't get aired much then that's what he or she gets, if a promoter wants me to fill the floor that's what he or she gets. managed that at kingsway hall last night with a lettle deviation from the regular 100mph oldies sets they enjoy but it would have been disrespectful to the paying public for me to play my jean dushon just because i like it and it don't get much of an airing.

but........

i'm certainly not criticising any other dee-jay for his or her policy, if we were all the same then the 'scene' would fly up it's own butt.

why do alot of people think all oldies are/have to be 100mph

[Pete Eccles]

this is where the scene has gone a bit wrong.Djs being told what they can and cant play.As for the likes of kingsway hall and the forest town when are they going to move on a little,lets face it 45s like bobby hebb,vel-vets, etc etc,although great 45s are still fookin boring even for an oldies do.

going back,promoters asking,telling djs what to play i think is wrong,they either dont trust the dj or they have no confidence in their event.It was never like this,you went to a soul do and a djs played soul,nowdays its all to business like and thats where its going wrong

Ive played Kingsway a few times, and enjoyed every time, and Mr Piper has NEVER told me what i should or shouldn't play! All it does is deliver what it says on the tin, which on reading events and lookbacks on here is a rarity in itself, the promoters and the good numbers that attend obviously enjoy whats on the menu, and are quite happy for those that find it 'fookin borin' to stay away,

Stating that folk shouldn't enjoy what they obviously do enjoy and saying they should move on when they are very happy where they are is just as bad as telling a DJ what he should play,

[Jimmy A]

Ive played Kingsway a few times, and enjoyed every time, and Mr Piper has NEVER told me what i should or shouldn't play! All it does is deliver what it says on the tin, which on reading events and lookbacks on here is a rarity in itself, the promoters and the good numbers that attend obviously enjoy whats on the menu, and are quite happy for those that find it 'fookin borin' to stay away,

Stating that folk shouldn't enjoy what they obviously do enjoy and saying they should move on when they are very happy where they are is just as bad as telling a DJ what he should play,

i just cant get my head around the fact that people want to listen to the same old stuff week in week in nottingham or surrounding areas.I like oldies as do most people i should imgine, but there are 100s if not 1000s of 45s that would go down well at alot of these events but its just seems that if they dont know it they dont want to know.I bought a 45 off ian gee because he played it and it cleared the floor.Nice of him to give it a chance,maybe a few spins at other dos would have done and worked it in that way but no because his little band of oldies army didnt like it off to the sales list it went.As i said i just dont get it

Edited January 1, 2008 by JMYTG

[Pete Eccles]

i just cant get my head around the fact that people want to listen to the same old stuff week in week in nottingham or surrounding areas.I like oldies as do most people i should imgine, but there are 100s if not 1000s of 45s that would go down well at alot of these events but its just seems that if they dont know it they dont want to know.I bought a 45 off ian gee because he played it and it cleared the floor.Nice of him to give it a chance,maybe a few spins at other dos would have done and worked it in that way but no because his little band of oldies army didnt like it off to the sales list it went.As i said i just dont get it

Its so simple though, a group of peeps congregate in a building and thouroughly enjoy what goes on there, and other peeps enjoying whatever they enjoy really doesn't concern them, why should it concern anybody else why they enjoy what they do?

What i don't get is what are they doing that's so wrong, they ENJOY it, end of,

[Coops]

this is where the scene has gone a bit wrong.Djs being told what they can and cant play.As for the likes of kingsway hall and the forest town when are they going to move on a little,lets face it 45s like bobby hebb,vel-vets, etc etc,although great 45s are still fookin boring even for an oldies do.

going back,promoters asking,telling djs what to play i think is wrong,they either dont trust the dj or they have no confidence in their event.It was never like this,you went to a soul do and a djs played soul,nowdays its all to business like and thats where its going wrong

then if you know what they play there and it's not to your liking don't go!

quite simple really... and

please don't be disrespectful to those who do go just because they are enjoying something you're not.....

live and let live, not too difficult really is it.

[Coops]

Hello Mike,

Good to meet you last night, and a very enjoyable night it was

I think, for what its worth, that some events are far more 'dance floor driven' than others, some events to lose half the floor for a track or two isn't such a bad thing, others such as Kingsway where the emphasis is on entertainment rather than education to lose the 'floor' can be very scarey,

Like you say, different promoters/events expect different things from the night, and any DJ deciding he/she knows better than the promoter or the paying customers of any particular event is running the risk of losing any future bookings, in the case of Kingsway finishing their spot

hi pete, good to meet you. i enjoyed last night very much, my particular 'bag' is mid-tempo from early 60s to y2k but....

how can one not enjoy a night full of people having such a great time.

i get my 'fix' from other venues but still like to dip my toe into the world of kingsway hall occassionally, it's called diversity and some can do that, others can't... but as i say good to meet you and to see you got home safely. (if the 'galately breakfast don't knock you out nothin' will)

[Jimmy A]

Its so simple though, a group of peeps congregate in a building and thouroughly enjoy what goes on there, and other peeps enjoying whatever they enjoy really doesn't concern them, why should it concern anybody else why they enjoy what they do?

What i don't get is what are they doing that's so wrong, they ENJOY it, end of,

i never said it was wrong i think its a shame that they cant give the other tunes a chance and maybe then make the place bigger and better.You cant tell me that the likes of carl and ian woudnt like to see their venues rammed each month,i know i would.

As it stands they just like doing what they do which is fair enough but there is so much more that can be had from the scene.

Going back to the tj williams DJs have got to realise that a hot box will not always work.As it is its places like the attic,bidds alnighter and pisley that will flourish because of what they do

[Pete Eccles]

hi pete, good to meet you. i enjoyed last night very much, my particular 'bag' is mid-tempo from early 60s to y2k but....

how can one not enjoy a night full of people having such a great time.

i get my 'fix' from other venues but still like to dip my toe into the world of kingsway hall occassionally, it's called diversity and some can do that, others can't... but as i say good to meet you and to see you got home safely. (if the 'galately breakfast don't knock you out nothin' will)

Mike, just to add, i get my 'fix' from almost anywhere and everywhere thats soulful, couldn't be doing the same type of event week in week out, whatever the policy, last night quite straight forward, next week who knows? wherever the mood takes i suppose,

Hopefully see you around real soon,

[Pete Eccles]

i never said it was wrong i think its a shame that they cant give the other tunes a chance and maybe then make the place bigger and better.You cant tell me that the likes of carl and ian woudnt like to see their venues rammed each month,i know i would.

As it stands they just like doing what they do which is fair enough but there is so much more that can be had from the scene.

Going back to the tj williams DJs have got to realise that a hot box will not always work.As it is its places like the attic,bidds alnighter and pisley that will flourish because of what they do

Don't wanna get into the very boring oldies v newies debate as i don't really fall into either camp,

But with all due respect are you really trying to tell me the events that you say flourish pull the numbers that the likes of Brighouse, stoke, and Blackburn KGH pull?

Apologies if ive missed your point re - bigger and flourish,

As i said i'm not a 'preacher' for either side of the fence, each to their own,

[Jimmy A]

Don't wanna get into the very boring oldies v newies debate as i don't really fall into either camp,

But with all due respect are you really trying to tell me the events that you say flourish pull the numbers that the likes of Brighouse, stoke, and Blackburn KGH pull?

Apologies if ive missed your point re - bigger and flourish,

As i said i'm not a 'preacher' for either side of the fence, each to their own,

nor me all im saying is that i think some venues could be better and bigger if they just,lets say,let their hair down, i dont go to many places now,the places i do like i.e the attic which some people slag do actually play oldies,might not be the same oldies as the other places but they certainly do play um and you can have a dance if you want to and yes they will get better because alot of people are a bit fed up with dj hot boxes and the same old stuff.

so untill the next tj williams comes along

looks like we shall have to agree to disagree

[Pete Eccles]

nor me all im saying is that i think some venues could be better and bigger if they just,lets say,let their hair down, i dont go to many places now,the places i do like i.e the attic which some people slag do actually play oldies,might not be the same oldies as the other places but they certainly do play um and you can have a dance if you want to and yes they will get better because alot of people are a bit fed up with dj hot boxes and the same old stuff.

so untill the next tj williams comes along

looks like we shall have to agree to disagree

All i am saying is it seems many more aren't!!!!!!

Just an observation, not really an opinion on which to agree or disagree,

ATB

[steve]

dee jaying at newage club in stamford, not many there but got good footfall reaction on the dance floor then........

put t.j. williams on.........

the floor totally emptied and i could hear the strains of a spaghetti western as the tumbleweed drifted across the floor.... ooops!

got them back with the next record but has anyone else got a 'certainty' that went 'south!'

I was DJing at oxford soul club at the end of november put 'The Tiffanies' Its got to be a great song on and it just emptied, luckily got them back next record, i put it down to everyone wanting a rest at the same time, lol

[Guest Trevski]

Promoters should book DJ's for the type of stuff they play. If a DJ plays modern, don't book him for a 60's do, if he plays newies, don't book him for an oldies nite, simple as that! I play what I play, and hopefully they will dance to it, as I din't play anything with the intention of clearing the floor. Everything I put on is with the intention of gettint 'em dancing, albeit to different things. Doesn't always work, it counts a lot for the time of the spot, and how much beer they've had! eg, 8-9 spot t'other nite. I play Robert Tanner and Lee Fields, nowt! 12-1 spot, Andy D plays 'em, floorpackers! Go figure!

[Guest Bearsy]

Promoters should book DJ's for the type of stuff they play. If a DJ plays modern, don't book him for a 60's do, if he plays newies, don't book him for an oldies nite, simple as that! I play what I play, and hopefully they will dance to it, as I din't play anything with the intention of clearing the floor. Everything I put on is with the intention of gettint 'em dancing, albeit to different things. Doesn't always work, it counts a lot for the time of the spot, and how much beer they've had! eg, 8-9 spot t'other nite. I play Robert Tanner and Lee Fields, nowt! 12-1 spot, Andy D plays 'em, floorpackers! Go figure!

so very true Trevski

[Guest Gavin Page]

Last night, did a bit of a Motown Party Seg' in my spot.

Edwin Star " Running Back And Forth "

Cleared the floor dead

Shocked was not the word for it !

[steve]

Not so much tumbleweed moments but more 'why do we bother sometimes moments' at a couple of event's recently I've had firstly "can you play something more commercial please we like that here" and "any chance of cranking it up a bit mate"? "sorry do you mean turn up the volume"? "no can you play some faster records" when Ty Karim - 'You Really Made It Good To Me' was banging out of the speakers, it's not the comments or requests so much but the way some people talk to you like it's their devine right to be rude to you.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Sometimes you just can't please anyone, its the state of their minds, you get people come up to you and say 'you done a great spot there mate' other times its 'you could've played something a bit more faster and/or slower, any way mark all the the best for saturday at banbury looking forward to your spot, Steve

[Jimmy A]

Promoters should book DJ's for the type of stuff they play. If a DJ plays modern, don't book him for a 60's do, if he plays newies, don't book him for an oldies nite, simple as that! I play what I play, and hopefully they will dance to it, as I din't play anything with the intention of clearing the floor. Everything I put on is with the intention of gettint 'em dancing, albeit to different things. Doesn't always work, it counts a lot for the time of the spot, and how much beer they've had! eg, 8-9 spot t'other nite. I play Robert Tanner and Lee Fields, nowt! 12-1 spot, Andy D plays 'em, floorpackers! Go figure!

so true that dancing is sometimes fueled by booze,bit sad but true.i once heard ed bruce "im gonna have a party" at a local notts do and thought this is gonna go down well really shocked to see the floor full.that was late on, i bet if it was 8.30-9-30 times it would have been a no no

[corby john]

On saturday night @ Kettering, i played We The People - Making My Daydream Real & Bunny Sigler - Sunny Sunday.............. both nearly cleared the floor!! To each his own i suppose.

cheers,

john mc.

[Jimmy A]

going back to the TUMBLEWEED MOMENT .why are so many djs getting afraid that when they play a record people walk off.

[Jimmy A]

On saturday night @ Kettering, i played We The People - Making My Daydream Real & Bunny Sigler - Sunny Sunday.............. both nearly cleared the floor!! To each his own i suppose.

cheers,

john mc.

great tune

[Coops]

going back to the TUMBLEWEED MOMENT .why are so many djs getting afraid that when they play a record people walk off.

i invited a tumbleweed moment at kingsway hall last night spinning the trammps, hold back the night as a cleggy memory (far from the staple wheel/torch 100mph usual at the venue), expecting (but NOT hoping) the floor may empty.... it didn't.... go figure!

[Guest krawen]

going back to the TUMBLEWEED MOMENT .why are so many djs getting afraid that when they play a record people walk off.

I'm not Jim as there is never anybody on the floor to walk off

when I'm doing my spot

Steve B

[Jimmy A]

i invited a tumbleweed moment at kingsway hall last night spinning the trammps, hold back the night as a cleggy memory (far from the staple wheel/torch 100mph usual at the venue), expecting (but NOT hoping) the floor may empty.... it didn't.... go figure!

this is what i mean,thats whats its about sometimes,its not just about playing safe having to play this that and the other and djs shitting themselves weather the next record is going to get them an ego busting gold star or them never to work again,its about playing soul music.The trammps does not surprise me because it would kind of fit into the kind of stuff alot of the crowd there grew up with.Now if you had a copy of jimmy andrews and it filled the floor then that would be something

Edited January 1, 2008 by JMYTG