Craig Charles " All Singing , All Dancing , All New Year's Day " Radio 2 New Year's Day 1 Am - 4am

[Guest]

Craig Charles ' broadcasting efforts on New Year's Day morning , is billed in The Radio Times as follows .....

" Funk and soul specialist Craig Charles ushers in the new year with a personal pick of Northern Soul party tracks "

For once , I am speechless ......

Malc Burton

Edited December 26, 2007 by Malc Burton

[ChrisOD1964]

Craig Charles ' broadcasting efforts on New Year's Day morning , is billed in The Radio Times as follows .....

" Funk and soul specialist [/color Craig Charles ushers in the new year with a personal pick of

For once , I am speechless ......

Malc Burton

ARE YOU SPEECHLESS COS YOU LIKE CRAIG OR BECAUSE YOU WISH STUART WAS DOING IT??

CHRIS

[Guest]

ARE YOU SPEECHLESS COS YOU LIKE CRAIG OR BECAUSE YOU WISH STUART WAS DOING IT??

CHRIS

No .....

What I meant by being speechless , was that I was rendered so , by the " job description " lavished on CC by the Radio Times , and the statement of " the pick of Northern Soul PARTY tracks " ......

I have a bad feeling that this term " Party " will catch on in some circles because of this , with future advertusing for venues bearing the sub - heading " featuring the best in Oldies , Motown , Rarities , Crossover , Modern and Party " ......

As for SM , I have time for him as a broadcaster and presenter ; his work on the " A S , A D , A N " programmes in the past was highly creditable ......

Malc Burton

Edited December 26, 2007 by Malc Burton

[Soul Shrews]

So lets give the cheeky scouse chappie a chance then,....................... you never know it could be good.

He did":interview" some of the stars after the recent Ace Records anniversary do

Cheers Paul

[Manfromsoul45s]

Craig Charles ' broadcasting efforts on New Year's Day morning , is billed in The Radio Times as follows .....

" Funk and soul specialist Craig Charles ushers in the new year with a personal pick of Northern Soul party tracks "

For once , I am speechless ......

Malc Burton

Jesus what next.....who wants to be a millionaire n. soul special. It gets sadder by the day!!

[Pete Eccles]

What gets sadder by the day is more and more folk concerning themselves with what others may like or dislike, if for any reason anybody doesn't want to wear spencers, or doesn't want to listen to a particular music genre, or doesn't want to buy/read any particular book, or doesn't want to tune in to a particular radio show (of which i have no interest) then the solution is simple ....................................... DON'T

Those that do ........ENJOY

Merry Christmas (if thats still acceptable, on Boxing day)

And a very peaceful New Year to all

Pete

[Manfromsoul45s]

What gets sadder by the day is more and more folk concerning themselves with what others may like or dislike, if for any reason anybody doesn't want to wear spencers, or doesn't want to listen to a particular music genre, or doesn't want to buy/read any particular book, or doesn't want to tune in to a particular radio show (of which i have no interest) then the solution is simple ....................................... DON'T

Those that do ........ENJOY

Merry Christmas (if thats still acceptable, on Boxing day)

And a very peaceful New Year to all

Pete

Was'nt being that specific. just a general comment mate..and yes merry xmas on boxing day is ok.

Edited December 26, 2007 by hootenannie

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

i will listen and if anyone has forget he had already done a show on BBC Radio 6 playing soul music and he used to have a section it called Talcum time or whatever it was called and he would play a few Northern soul tracks.

He can't be as bad as people seem to make out or it sounds like it

[Guest ScooterNik]

I thought Craig Charles was well known to be a soul (not just NS) fan? Give him a chance before you knock the bloke, he may actually surprise you.

[Simsy]

Funk and soul specialist Craig Charles

That's worrying...

ARE YOU SPEECHLESS COS YOU LIKE CRAIG OR BECAUSE YOU WISH STUART WAS DOING IT??

CHRIS

Bit of a disappointment Maconie not doing it. Least he half knew what he was talking about.

So lets give the cheeky scouse chappie a chance then,.......................

Nah lets write him off and pour scorn before he's even played the Snake.

[Guest]

I have become a big fan of Craig because he champions all black music and his show is so entertaining. He also includes live recordings of acts which is brilliant - Gwen MCrae was a recent visitor to the Beeb studios - how many shows does that happen on!!!??? You never know what he is going to play from deep to funk to Northern to new recordings which is what I enjoy. He is also a big supporter of Ace/Kent. He really shocked me when he played a track off the Willie Walker & Butanes CD which I issued a few years back - and I didn't even send him a copy!!!

He also did a cracking show on Liverpool's Mardi Gras club - air brushed out of Northern Soul history LOL - which included interviews with DJ's and some of the local acts who played alongside the US greats who would then go down the road to play the Twisted Wheel or vice versa.

Cheers

Colin

https://indangerousrhythm.blogspot.com/

[Peter99]

I don't like Craig Charles.

[timthemod]

Whether you like the guy or not, CC has loads of Northern Soul during his 3 hour weekly BBC 6 show. He is promoting our music on mainstream radio which can't be a bad thing. He always takes with passion about whatever tracks or acts he is interviewing. I think he should at least be given a chance before he's condemned by SS forumees! Perhaps he ought to bring his Corrie pal Vernon for extra support!

[Guest]

Whether you like the guy or not, CC has loads of Northern Soul during his 3 hour weekly BBC 6 show. He is promoting our music on mainstream radio which can't be a bad thing. He always takes with passion about whatever tracks or acts he is interviewing. I think he should at least be given a chance before he's condemned by SS forumees! Perhaps he ought to bring his Corrie pal Vernon for extra support!

To reiterate my / the original post on this subject , It was the " job description " that the Radio Times ( other listings magazines are available ) lavished on Craig Charles , that being " Soul and funk Specialist " , that somewhat perplexed me ......

It still does ......

At least we now know that there is someone that likes CC ......

Malc Burton

[Guest rachel]

Having listened to Craig Charles' BBC6 Music show, I think he may actually have more of an idea than Stuart Maconie, although "specialist" does make him sound like an "expert" which I would perhaps dispute.

Can remember when I was first getting into 'Northern', setting a tape to record ASADAN on New Year's EVe - got home about halfway through it and checked that it was recording, to be confronted with 'Inky Dinky Wang Dang Doo' and some awful instrumental whose name escapes me at the moment.. nearly put me off for life

[Guest]

Having listened to Craig Charles' BBC6 Music show, I think he may actually have more of an idea than Stuart Maconie, although "specialist" does make him sound like an "expert" which I would perhaps dispute.

Can remember when I was first getting into 'Northern', setting a tape to record ASADAN on New Year's EVe - got home about halfway through it and checked that it was recording, to be confronted with 'Inky Dinky Wang Dang Doo' and some awful instrumental whose name escapes me at the moment.. nearly put me off for life

Once again , it was the " job description " lavished on CC that perplexed me ......

I am not having a go at the man , I can take or leave him as an " actor " ......

If you can call all but replicating his role from " Red Dwarf " to that of the one he has in Corrie , acting ......

I would be interested to know who was in line for the job as well as CC ......

Malc Burton

Edited December 29, 2007 by Malc Burton

[Guest rachel]

I would definitely say he was more on the funk side, but I get the impression he does have a reasonable idea what he's on about.

Just remembered the offending instrumental was 'Interplay'.. it's a miracle I'm still here

[Richard]

I agree, hang Craig Charles from the nearest tree for having the front to host a programme on national radio playing soul music. How dare he have the cheek to encourage the editor of the Radio Times to describe him as an "specialist" in a musical field he cannot honestly know as much about as all of us on here combined.

Perhaps the editor should have said "No nothing Craig Charles presents a night of crappy old Soul music", that would get the punters tuned in

Can't believe that some of you are taking the piss out of a show that may just get a few extra punters through the door at your soul nights. And at a time when vitually everyone is saying attendances are down and what will save Northern Soul in the future, surely a programme that presents Northern Soul to a wider audience should be encouraged not lambasted.

Edited December 29, 2007 by richard

[kevinsoulman]

I would definitely say he was more on the funk side, but I get the impression he does have a reasonable idea what he's on about.

Just remembered the offending instrumental was 'Interplay'.. it's a miracle I'm still here

both tracks were of their time and loved by as many as those who disliked them which is what its all about

kev

[Guest ScooterNik]

Anyone else think this thread should be locked until New Years Day? The main objection seems to be that (crap) actor CC has the temerity to present a show on soul music. How many of his detractors actually KNOW what music he likes, the depth of his knowledge and collection etc?

Nope, lets crucify him BEFORE the offence is committed?

[Peter99]

Anyone else think this thread should be locked until New Years Day? The main objection seems to be that (crap) actor CC has the temerity to present a show on soul music. How many of his detractors actually KNOW what music he likes, the depth of his knowledge and collection etc?

Nope, lets crucify him BEFORE the offence is committed?

Why lock the thread? People are entitled to express their opinions - that's what the forum is for. Why exactly do you want it locked - because people disagree with your opinion? Or are trying to protect little red dwarfy Craigs reputation?

I have reasons for not liking CC - it's nothing to do with the fact that he's a crap actor or anything else - and I said that earlier.

Get a grip.

[Guest]

I agree, hang Craig Charles from the nearest tree for having the front to host a programme on national radio playing soul music. How dare he have the cheek to encourage the editor of the Radio Times to describe him as an "specialist" in a musical field he cannot honestly know as much about as all of us on here combined.

Perhaps the editor should have said "No nothing Craig Charles presents a night of crappy old Soul music", that would get the punters tuned in

Can't believe that some of you are taking the piss out of a show that may just get a few extra punters through the door at your soul nights. And at a time when vitually everyone is saying attendances are down and what will save Northern Soul in the future, surely a programme that presents Northern Soul to a wider audience should be encouraged not lambasted.

If it draws any extra punters in, it'll only be the old uns that have had the last 20 years off.... not young fresh blood which is what is needed.

I won't be listening because I can't stand the mans voice, regardless of what tunes he may play - oh and because I'll be going out all singing, all dancing, all making as much of a nuscience of myself that I possibly can...

[Peter99]

If it draws any extra punters in, it'll only be the old uns that have had the last 20 years off.... not young fresh blood which is what is needed.

I won't be listening because I can't stand the mans voice, regardless of what tunes he may play - oh and because I'll be going out all singing, all dancing, all making as much of a nuscience of myself that I possibly can...

[Guest]

oi you, PM me your address - there's every possibility I may just crack on with that promise I made you

[Peter99]

oi you, PM me your address - there's every possibility I may just crack on with that promise I made you

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Fanks!

I'm really looking forward to that!

[Guest Bearsy]

oi you, PM me your address - there's every possibility I may just crack on with that promise I made you

i can picture it now, Peters hands are shaking so much you will end up with an address in Zimbabwe somewhere

[Peter99]

i can picture it now, Peters hands are shaking so much you will end up with an address in Zimbabwe somewhere

You going to the match mate?

[Guest Bearsy]

You going to the match mate?

yes i am Peter but im not in a very confident mood cos i just found out that my mate Jez is coming down and he has only ever seen Gills lose by 3 goals or more in the half a dozen games he has watched in his lifetime

I like Craig Charles, i met him once and he was a very polite and nice man and a good laugh too but i wont be listening to the show as im going to be out, i would of though

[Peter99]

yes i am Peter but im not in a very confident mood cos i just found out that my mate Jez is coming down and he has only ever seen Gills lose by 3 goals or more in the half a dozen games he has watched in his lifetime

I like Craig Charles, i met him once and he was a very polite and nice man and a good laugh too but i wont be listening to the show as im going to be out, i would of though

Have a good one then mate. We're so in consistent at the minute it could go either way. Tyson is out too.

You can keep that other CC that'll be visting the Prestfield this afty!

[Funky Si]

Craig Charles show on Radio 6 is one of the best music shows on the BBC at the moment, so what better to put on at 1am on News Years Day. I don't suppose he'll be trying to break any new discoveries though. So, my question to all you top DJs out there is what would your first three be if you had the chance to do Craig's show for him?

Remember, there are about 50,000 parties tuning in to your show so they can all have a bit of a dance. In every one of them there are a couple of people bragging to their mates that they "used to go to Wigan" and going on about a record they used to have that's now worth "at least a grand". Is it the ultimate chance to put all those divvies in their places, or do you go for three ultimate crowd pleasers and your one chance in a lifetime to put a million people on their feet, moving to the tune you chose?

[Guest Bearsy]

Craig Charles show on Radio 6 is one of the best music shows on the BBC at the moment, so what better to put on at 1am on News Years Day. I don't suppose he'll be trying to break any new discoveries though. So, my question to all you top DJs out there is what would your first three be if you had the chance to do Craig's show for him?

Remember, there are about 50,000 parties tuning in to your show so they can all have a bit of a dance. In every one of them there are a couple of people bragging to their mates that they "used to go to Wigan" and going on about a record they used to have that's now worth "at least a grand". Is it the ultimate chance to put all those divvies in their places, or do you go for three ultimate crowd pleasers and your one chance in a lifetime to put a million people on their feet, moving to the tune you chose?

and the best thing about it all too is that it can be on any format, so no muscle flexing

[Funky Si]

and the best thing about it all too is that it can be on any format, so no muscle flexing

Too right! You can play anything, whether you have it on original label or not. You can even ignore the soul police on this one occasion. You might choose to start with something that was actually a hit - I'd suggest "Dancing in the Street", not least because it is Craig Charles related!

[Simsy]

Well Maconie was from Wigan. Maconie went to Wigan. Had indepth chats on previous shows with people of the likes of Ginger Taylor, Ady Croasdell and Sir Richard Searling. Former NME journalist rightly had sufficient depth of knowledge on the subject to justify broadcasting such on a major radio station.

Craig Charles ... Do admire the optimistics don't coat him before his kicked a ball stance. Put aside his career from the outset as angst ridden urban Scouse poet, sure some liked that and didn't find it stultifyingly shite. Put aside the ceiling on his alleged talent as being able to utter the word 'smeg' repeatedly on that wonderful Red Dwarf show, with other heart warming co-star charmers like Chris Barrie. Through in a rape allegation and bring to the boil, that's it that's it right there ...

Toe tapping to a couple of commercial tracks someone else played to you on cd does not constitute anchoring your own show on the subject.

So with an open mind and happy heart, wish him well and hope he's good.

[Peter99]

Well Maconie was from Wigan. Maconie went to Wigan. Had indepth chats on previous shows with people of the likes of Ginger Taylor, Ady Croasdell and Sir Richard Searling. Former NME journalist rightly had sufficient depth of knowledge on the subject to justify broadcasting such on a major radio station.

Craig Charles ... Do admire the optimistics don't coat him before his kicked a ball stance. Put aside his career from the outset as angst ridden urban Scouse poet, sure some liked that and didn't find it stultifyingly shite. Put aside the ceiling on his alleged talent as being able to utter the word 'smeg' repeatedly on that wonderful Red Dwarf show, with other heart warming co-star charmers like Chris Barrie. Through in a rape allegation and bring to the boil, that's it that's it right there ...

Toe tapping to a couple of commercial tracks someone else played to you on cd does not constitute anchoring your own show on the subject.

So with an open mind and happy heart, wish him well and hope he's good.

Eloquently put Ian.

[Funky Si]

Well Maconie was from Wigan. Maconie went to Wigan. Had indepth chats on previous shows with people of the likes of Ginger Taylor, Ady Croasdell and Sir Richard Searling. Former NME journalist rightly had sufficient depth of knowledge on the subject to justify broadcasting such on a major radio station.

Craig Charles ... Do admire the optimistics don't coat him before his kicked a ball stance. Put aside his career from the outset as angst ridden urban Scouse poet, sure some liked that and didn't find it stultifyingly shite. Put aside the ceiling on his alleged talent as being able to utter the word 'smeg' repeatedly on that wonderful Red Dwarf show, with other heart warming co-star charmers like Chris Barrie. Through in a rape allegation and bring to the boil, that's it that's it right there ...

Toe tapping to a couple of commercial tracks someone else played to you on cd does not constitute anchoring your own show on the subject.

So with an open mind and happy heart, wish him well and hope he's good.

Hang on a second .... that's a bit below the belt isn't it? Craig Charles is clearly a bit of a bad boy, but his show is consistently good, and he has interviews on his show too... He had a fantastic three part series interviewing James Brown, which he did brilliantly. This year alone, he has had interviews with the Average White Band, Cymande, Marlena Shaw, Ian Wright, Gwen Macrae, Mavis Staples, Cyril Neville, Isaac Hayes, Tito Lopez, George Clinton, Keb Darge, and Bernard "Pretty" Purdie.

He certainly isn't a chin stroker though.

Actually, I reckon this is a conspiracy by people who are doing NS events on News Years Eve to make sure we aren't drawn into the trap of listening to the radio instead!

Edited December 29, 2007 by Funky Si

[Guest Bearsy]

Well Maconie was from Wigan. Maconie went to Wigan. Had indepth chats on previous shows with people of the likes of Ginger Taylor, Ady Croasdell and Sir Richard Searling. Former NME journalist rightly had sufficient depth of knowledge on the subject to justify broadcasting such on a major radio station.

Craig Charles ... Do admire the optimistics don't coat him before his kicked a ball stance. Put aside his career from the outset as angst ridden urban Scouse poet, sure some liked that and didn't find it stultifyingly shite. Put aside the ceiling on his alleged talent as being able to utter the word 'smeg' repeatedly on that wonderful Red Dwarf show, with other heart warming co-star charmers like Chris Barrie. Through in a rape allegation and bring to the boil, that's it that's it right there ...

Toe tapping to a couple of commercial tracks someone else played to you on cd does not constitute anchoring your own show on the subject.

So with an open mind and happy heart, wish him well and hope he's good.

you going to be tuning in then Ian

[Simsy]

Eloquently put Ian.

Wondered why Stuart Maconie swerved All Singinging All Dancing this year ...

££££'s

Bit of a faith keeping shame, he's pushed for time and brimming with cash?

Edited December 29, 2007 by Ian Sims

[Funky Si]

you going to be tuning in then Ian

If you look at his signature, you will notice that he's doing something else on New Years Eve!

[Simsy]

" Funk and soul specialist Craig Charles

Actually, I reckon this is a conspiracy by people who are doing NS events on News Years Eve to make sure we aren't drawn into the trap of listening to the radio instead!

Conspiracy you say?

[Guest Bearsy]

Conspiracy you say?

I can feel another conspiracy thread coming on

Is Funky Si really Craig Charles

[Peter99]

I can feel another conspiracy thread coming on

Is Funky Si really Craig Charles

Allegedly CC does lean towards the funky side of things - you could be on to something Bearsy.

Do you live next door to the ground!

[Ric-tic]

Well Maconie was from Wigan. Maconie went to Wigan. Had indepth chats on previous shows with people of the likes of Ginger Taylor, Ady Croasdell and Sir Richard Searling. Former NME journalist rightly had sufficient depth of knowledge on the subject to justify broadcasting such on a major radio station.

the one where he interviewed dave ball who told this amazing story of how hed bought a copy of frank wilson for £7 in a hotel and how dissapointed he was some time later when he discovered it was a pressing it was the eddie foster copy so im guessing there may have been a clue in there

that first series was so full of inaccuracies if that series was beginning today stuart would be thrown to the lions here

Edited December 29, 2007 by ric-tic

[Richard]

If it draws any extra punters in, it'll only be the old uns that have had the last 20 years off.... not young fresh blood which is what is needed.

Ah but Kirsty without the occaisional show like this on national radio the "young fresh blood" would be snared how?

Can't really see the hippest young dj's on pirate radio saying "And coming up next here's the latest newie being played on the Northern scene" can you?

[Coops]

Craig Charles ' broadcasting efforts on New Year's Day morning , is billed in The Radio Times as follows .....

" Funk and soul specialist Craig Charles ushers in the new year with a personal pick of Northern Soul party tracks "

For once , I am speechless ......

Malc Burton

"Party Tracks" that'll be levinian mincing back-beat grafted onto otherwise respectable sounds..... just guessing!

Edited December 29, 2007 by coops

[Guest ScooterNik]

Why lock the thread? People are entitled to express their opinions - that's what the forum is for. Why exactly do you want it locked - because people disagree with your opinion? Or are trying to protect little red dwarfy Craigs reputation?

I have reasons for not liking CC - it's nothing to do with the fact that he's a crap actor or anything else - and I said that earlier.

Get a grip.

So your dislike of CC's show is based on something OTHER than whether or not he will play good tunes or not?

And you're the one telling ME to get a grip?

Why can I not find a smiley that shows me rolling around on the floor laughing at you?

I repeat: Why criticise something you haven't heard yet? If its good then there's no problem... if its crap then pull him to bits after the event. In the meantime I don't see anyone from the BBC reading this and going 'oooh, we'd better get McConie back as Peter99 doesn't like him' do you?

Live with it, its not worth getting your labels wet for.

FFS

Having said that, if he played 3 hours of the rarest of the rare floorfillers, holding each one up to the studio cam for examination, some would stil find fault.....

[Richard]

"Party Tracks" that'll be levinian mincing back-beat grafted onto otherwise respectable sounds..... just guessing!

to condemn the man before he's had a chance is ridiculous

Can't see it happening but I'd laugh so much if the show gets a good write up on here

Edited December 29, 2007 by richard

[Peter99]

So your dislike of CC's show is based on something OTHER than whether or not he will play good tunes or not?

And you're the one telling ME to get a grip?

Why can I not find a smiley that shows me rolling around on the floor laughing at you?

I repeat: Why criticise something you haven't heard yet? If its good then there's no problem... if its crap then pull him to bits after the event. In the meantime I don't see anyone from the BBC reading this and going 'oooh, we'd better get McConie back as Peter99 doesn't like him' do you?

Live with it, its not worth getting your labels wet for.

FFS

Having said that, if he played 3 hours of the rarest of the rare floorfillers, holding each one up to the studio cam for examination, some would stil find fault.....

OOOOOOH!

If you go back and read the thread properly you will see that I simply said I did not like CC - and I don't. I really don't give a fook what he does or doesn't do. Additionally, and perhaps more importantly, I don't give a fook what you think either. If you want to get all worked up defending CC and his show feel free.

[BlueWail]

many yaers ago

My dad owned a pub in liverpool and decided to bar CC

When the barring order was announced

CC asked was it because he was black?

My arl fella replied

No..its because your a gobshite

In CC,s defence,he was in his scouse poet mode back then

And for the record

I like Craig

[Funky Si]

While it is of course very flattering to be mistaken for Craig Charles, he is not me.

Anyway, I know there's a lot of Maconie-ites out there, but how can you support a man who has a prog-rock show as his main output on Radio? And just look at his BBC CV - Stuart Maconie BBC page If he is such a big Northern Soul fan, why doesn't he mention it? Kraftwerk???? Nick Drake???? Russ Abbott???????????? Not exactly the choicest cuts of rare Detroit soul of the mid- to late- 60s is it .....

Mind you Craig's CV doesn't exactly ooze NS credentials either I suppose .... Craig Charles BBC page. At least he didn't pack his Xmas show with Stockhausen and Steeleye Span though .... and his show from last Friday is well worth a listen - the first thing he mentions in his review of the year is what a great one it has been for Kent, and he even plays a bit of rare soul.

Edited December 30, 2007 by Funky Si

[Simsy]

While it is of course very flattering to be mistaken for Craig Charles, he is not me.

Anyway, I know there's a lot of Maconie-ites out there, but how can you support a man who has a prog-rock show as his main output on Radio? And just look at his BBC CV - Stuart Maconie BBC page If he is such a big Northern Soul fan, why doesn't he mention it? Kraftwerk???? Nick Drake???? Russ Abbott???????????? Not exactly the choicest cuts of rare Detroit soul of the mid- to late- 60s is it .....

Mind you Craig's CV doesn't exactly ooze NS credentials either I suppose .... Craig Charles BBC page. At least he didn't pack his Xmas show with Stockhausen and Steeleye Span though ....

All you say about Maconie is true, though (imo) he is still more soulful than CC. As previously stated he was from Wigan and went to Wigan amongst other Northern venues. As an NME journalist obviously he developed other musical tastes. He is a huge fan of the Smiths.

I think you're just bigging him up because of his funkyness Si.

Seriously though, I can't see him championing the finer points of the Fascinators, but who knows.. Hey some 'All Singing All Dancing" is better than none.

As most folk will probably be jollying it up NYE, the real debate (perhaps) will happen after his show.

Lastly, not a huge fan of the guy personally, but good luck to him and I hope it goes well.