Denbo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Anybody else got one of these by Varetta Dillard with the silver 'odd-shaped' triangular centre? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
davidwapples Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 what does this go for these days as id like to get a copy on any release. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 what does this go for these days as id like to get a copy on any release. Used to be about £75. Not sure what it goes for now? Can anybody else help? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Got mine for £40.00 on US issue. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Would say £50 - £60 max for U.S. nowadays. Not seen the German one, but presume price would be similar, maybe slightly more (unless its got a pic sleeve?) Mace Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 At least 100 quid for a nice AUSSIE RCA 7 " release !!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Anybody else got one of these by Varetta Dillard with the silver 'odd-shaped' triangular centre? never seen or heard of a germany release (which doesn't mean there isn't one) but german 45 never had small centers, always big ones... 'triangular center' sounds more like an exotic one, e.g. australian??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 never seen or heard of a germany release (which doesn't mean there isn't one) but german 45 never had small centers, always big ones... 'triangular center' sounds more like an exotic one, e.g. australian??? Or Sooth Afrikan.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 never seen or heard of a germany release (which doesn't mean there isn't one) but german 45 never had small centers, always big ones... 'triangular center' sounds more like an exotic one, e.g. australian??? No, it's definitely German and it looks fantastic, especially in mint condition. The vinyl quality is the same as UK but the 'exotic' triangular centre looks amazing. No picture sleeve. And why would the Aussie RCA 7" fetch £100? What's so special about the Aussie 45? Is it upsidedown or something? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 Or Sooth Afrikan.... Does this mean you have it on South African RCA 7"? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 No, but plenty of RCA records were released on South African issues with triangular centres... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 No, but plenty of RCA records were released on South African issues with triangular centres... That's true. Also includes labels like Atlantic, London, Columbia, etc, as well. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 No, it's definitely German and it looks fantastic, especially in mint condition. The vinyl quality is the same as UK but the 'exotic' triangular centre looks amazing. No picture sleeve. And why would the Aussie RCA 7" fetch £100? What's so special about the Aussie 45? Is it upside down or something? Probably because the population of Australia in the 60's was less than 10 million , that is, less than half what it is now, the music scene was absolutely tiny compared to even the small European countries like Holland and Belgium and the pressing runs of records were so small as to be almost negligible , all the evidence points to a couple of hundred at most (if that) of items like the Sapphires "Gonna Be A Big Thing " on Ampar or the Metros "Since I Found My Baby" on RCA or Patrick Bradley on Ampar or the Jackie Day EP on W & G. The Gloria Scott 45 on Casablanca remains ridiculously tough, and then you have perhaps the biggest prize of all , Billy Wood's "Let Me Make You Happy" on Aussie A & M .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 No, it's definitely German and it looks fantastic, especially in mint condition. The vinyl quality is the same as UK but the 'exotic' triangular centre looks amazing. No picture sleeve. And why would the Aussie RCA 7" fetch £100? What's so special about the Aussie 45? Is it upsidedown or something? any chance of a scan? i honestly can't remember ever seeing a german triangle center 45, the ones i've seen that had such a center turned out to be either non-german or some odd EP... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 any chance of a scan? i honestly can't remember ever seeing a german triangle center 45, the ones i've seen that had such a center turned out to be either non-german or some odd EP... I'll see what I can do. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 I'll see what I can do. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 I'll see what I can do. Try this. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Try this. Just out of interest, does it have 710 or 810 stamped somewhere in the run-out groove? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 (edited) Is the triangular centre part of the disc or is it a later addition? Looks like its a 'chocolate metal middle' to me. Edited December 27, 2007 by pikeys dog Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 Just out of interest, does it have 710 or 810 stamped somewhere in the run-out groove? No, sorry it doesn't. Why? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 Is the triangular centre part of the disc or is it a later addition? Looks like its a 'chocolate metal middle' to me. No, it's an integral part of the record. Another thing, did you notice how the triangular centre is NOT equal on all sides. Can't remember the mathematical terminilogy for that last comment? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 (edited) No, sorry it doesn't. Why? Because if it had, it would've been pressed in Norway. Very often during the 60s, records pressed in Norway used to have german labels on them. The copy you posted up with the plastic tri-centre looks like the german RCA Elvis Presley 45s that I have. The edges of the plastic on the centre are melted into the vinyl/label. Edited December 27, 2007 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 any chance of a scan? i honestly can't remember ever seeing a german triangle center 45, the ones i've seen that had such a center turned out to be either non-german or some odd EP... The German triangle centre things are large hole centres but the have little round indents into which these triangle centres fit. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 The German triangle centre things are large hole centres but the have little round indents into which these triangle centres fit. Kind of true but I wouldn't want to dislodge one for fear of damaging the paper label, which are easily equal in quality to the UK labels. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 Because if it had, it would've been pressed in Norway. Very often during the 60s, records pressed in Norway used to have german labels on them. The copy you posted up with the plastic tri-centre looks like the german RCA Elvis Presley 45s that I have. The edges of the plastic on the centre are melted into the vinyl/label. It's definitely German as it has 'Made in Germany' very neatly pressed into the runout grooves, unlike the UK labels. As for the little blobs 'melted' into the vinyl / label. I'm not so sure that's entirely correct. If you hold the 45 up to the light, you can just see a tiny gap, which means to me that the triangular centre is most probably designed to be carefully pushed out, if need be. Not that I would, for fear of damaging the paper label. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 As for the little blobs 'melted' into the vinyl / label. I'm not so sure that's entirely correct. If you hold the 45 up to the light, you can just see a tiny gap, which means to me that the triangular centre is most probably designed to be carefully pushed out, if need be. Not that I would, for fear of damaging the paper label. I had a closer look at my Elvis 45s and you're right, the little blobs aren't melted into the vinyl, but they were definitely put there during the manufacturing process by some kind of machine. I also have one 45 which has got its centre removed and you can clearly see the "gaps". Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 I had a closer look at my Elvis 45s and you're right, the little blobs aren't melted into the vinyl, but they were definitely put there during the manufacturing process by some kind of machine. I also have one 45 which has got its centre removed and you can clearly see the "gaps". Also, take a closer look at the triangular centre. It's not symmetrical from all three sides. One side has a slight difference, suggesting it is the 'base' of the triangle. Look at us, what a pair of nerds Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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