Prophonics 2029 Posted December 16, 2007 Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) Which one. I hear there are 2 issues on this a rare one with credit or no credit to Mike Terry. Edited December 16, 2007 by Prophonics 2029
45cellar Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 (edited) Which one. I hear there are 2 issues on this a rare one with credit or no credit to Mike Terry. That's correct, I have the Label Variation with no credit to "Mike Terry" on the Label, I will check the Matrix and Post. Edited December 17, 2007 by 45cellar
Guest topcatnumpty1 Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 My fave record of all time,i,ve had both(with Mike Terry credited and the earlier one where he,s not mentioned) as far as i was aware it was only bootlegged on a black and white Mary Jane lookalike about 1977 ish---but i,m old and senile now and may be wrong!!! Regards Tony ColebyThat's correct, I have the Label Variation with no credit to "Mike Terry" on the Label, I will check the Matrix and Post.
Steve G Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 (edited) My fave record of all time,i,ve had both(with Mike Terry credited and the earlier one where he,s not mentioned) as far as i was aware it was only bootlegged on a black and white Mary Jane lookalike about 1977 ish---but i,m old and senile now and may be wrong!!! Regards Tony Coleby Yes it was bootlegged like this (black and white) in 1977. I remember seeing an original at WIgan, so I coloured in the red bits to make my boot look like an original This was obviously just before I saw the evils of bootlegging and went to OVO. Edited December 17, 2007 by Steve G
45cellar Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 (edited) That's correct, I have the Label Variation with no credit to "Mike Terry" on the Label, I will check the Matrix and Post. Should have a Nashville Matrix stamp Yes, as Ted correctly states, Originals do have the "Nashville Matrix" both sides. Edited December 17, 2007 by 45cellar
Peter99 Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 omng Yes it was bootlegged like this (black and white) in 1977. I remember seeing an original at WIgan, so I coloured in the red bits to make my boot look like an original This was obviously just before I saw the evils of bootlegging and went to OVO. Seem to recall doing that myself Steve - about the same time too! Not the same record. Feckless youth and all that - good times though.
mischief Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 a mate gave me a boot of this a few years ago... Coloured in!!!!
Guest Rich Walker Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 (edited) Does anyone have a clip of this? Think i've only heard the Fred Bridges version... Thanks, Rich. *** Sorry my bad, I found one in RefoSoul. Edited December 17, 2007 by Rich Walker
Swifty Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Remember buying this at Soul Bowl for £6 (those were the day my Friends )
45cellar Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Remember buying this at Soul Bowl for £6 (those were the day my Friends ) Certainly were, I remember my first trip to Kings Lynn, Travelled through the night to be there early. I was like a Kid in a Sweet Shop, all that lovely Original Vinyl, multiple copies too. I went a few times, but that first time I was in Awe, I'll remember it forever, Happy Days.
Simsy Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 That matrix number's looking a bit dodge mate. If you don't mind me saying so ...
Sean Hampsey Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 That 'looks' proper to me. I had half a dozen (or more) of these early/mid 70's and that 'looks' just like 'em! The only Boots knocking around at the time (or soon after - 76/77) were Black & White 'photocopy type labels. However, these days, with Colour Printers and Colour Laser Copies that could easily be a 'mock up' job on a Carver (or a Colour Copy on a Pressing) so think I'd be very wary because the scan does not show the Nashville Matrix stamp... or at least I can't see it on my monitor. Went to a guys house recently and he'd quite a few Top Rarities, mounted in frames, on his Record Room wall (Mel Britt / Cecil Washington / Don Gardner / Billy Woods etc.). They looked amazing... but they were lasers stuck onto old Pop and C&W 45's... purely for effect!
Guest Trevski Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Don't like the fact that the checks don't go to the edge, the black ring around the label, seperating the worn looking white from the pristine white! Looks a bit iffy to me.
Paul Dunn Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 That matrix number's looking a bit dodge mate. If you don't mind me saying so ... Looks very dodgey to me as well Regards Paul
Guest Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Don't like the fact that the checks don't go to the edge, the black ring around the label, seperating the worn looking white from the pristine white! Looks a bit iffy to me. WOULD IT HELP IF I SAY THE LABEL IS NOT A STUCK ON PAPER ONE BUT ITS MOULDED ON THE RING YOU SEE SEEMS TO BE WHERE ITS MOULDED OVER A RAISED PORTION OF THE VINYL WAZZ
Nick Hackett Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 (edited) Mines moulded label/vinyl with nashville matrix on both sides. P1005B then (1005) 95 on Tell Me side. P1005AX 95 plus.. a former owner...Geoff Stevens decided to scratch his name in run out ..on Baby Dont You Weep. Hope any of this info helps Wazz. Edited December 17, 2007 by nick hackett
45cellar Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) Mines moulded label/vinyl with nashville matrix on both sides. P1005B then (1005) 95 on Tell Me side. P1005AX 95 plus.. a former owner...Geoff Stevens decided to scratch his name in run out ..on Baby Dont You Weep. Hope any of this info helps Wazz. Yes, EITHER 95 was used OR 77 for Small Independant Detroit Labels, According to >>> ANORAKS CORNER <<< "Nashville Matrix" Invaluable Information on Anoraks Corner - (PRESSING PLANTS) Edited December 18, 2007 by 45cellar
Sean Hampsey Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 a former owner...Geoff Stevens decided to scratch his name in run out ..on Baby Dont You Weep. Old mate of mine from Newark, Geoff. Think he did that with all his records back then.
Guest Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Does anyone have a clip of this? Think i've only heard the Fred Bridges version... Thanks, Rich. *** Sorry my bad, I found one in RefoSoul. Fred Bridges?,different records me thinks!!
Guest Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Mines moulded label/vinyl with nashville matrix on both sides. P1005B then (1005) 95 on Tell Me side. P1005AX 95 plus.. a former owner...Geoff Stevens decided to scratch his name in run out ..on Baby Dont You Weep. Hope any of this info helps Wazz. HELLO NICK, WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS WHAT I GOT EXEPT FOR THE NAME, THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS MINE IS CREDITED TO MIKE TERRY AND YOURS AINT, SO WHAT ARE WE SAYING IS MINE OK OR NOT THANKS FOR THE INFO WAZZ.
Steve Thomas Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) HELLO NICK, WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS WHAT I GOT EXEPT FOR THE NAME, THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS MINE IS CREDITED TO MIKE TERRY AND YOURS AINT, SO WHAT ARE WE SAYING IS MINE OK OR NOT THANKS FOR THE INFO WAZZ. hi WAZZ I HAVE TWO COPYS ONE CREDITED TO MIKE TERRY SAME AS YOUR HAS NASHVILLE MAINS STAMP ONLY DIFFERENCE I CAN SEE IS THE ONE I HAVE DOE`S NOT HAVE THE RING AROUND THE OUT SIDE LIKE YOURS ,THE CHECKERED PATTERN REACHES TO THE END WILL PUT A SCAN UP MINES UP FOR SALE @ £225 BEST STEVE T Edited December 18, 2007 by steve thomas
Steve Thomas Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) THERE YOU GO MATE Edited December 18, 2007 by steve thomas
45cellar Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) THERE YOU GO MATE "Nashville Matrix" clearly Visible, plus the large centre cuts clean through the red & white checks with no white crescent. Exactly like the Non "Mike Terry" Credit variation. Edited December 18, 2007 by 45cellar
Steve Thomas Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 "Nashville Matrix" clearly Visible, plus the large centre cuts clean through the red & white checks with no white crescent. Exactly like the Non "Mike Terry" Credit variation. JUST CHECKED ALL MY MARY JANE`S ALL HAVE NASHVILLE MAINS STAMP BUT LAST 3 1007 A / 1008 & 1009 /1010 & 1010 &1111 ALL HAVE ARCHER STAMPS ...NOTE NONE HAVE THE OUTER RING LIKE WAZZ COPY MAYBE DIFFERENT PRESSING PLANT ? WILL SCAN ALL LATER HOPE THIS HELPS STEVE T
Sebastian Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) As far as I can see, the printing on this label has been made using the "dot matrix" system. Look at the letters, they are made up of tiny dots, as if the label has been scanned from a book, then printed out and stuck onto a white label 45. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a vinyl carver 7" which someone has stuck a home made label on. Edited December 18, 2007 by Sebastian
Sean Hampsey Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a vinyl carver 7" which someone has stuck a home made label on. I think you're right, Sebastian as I suggested on post 15. It doesn't have Nashville Matrix yet it DOES have a very dodgy looking scratched on Matrix... and a Lazer Copy style label... so I'd say it's a 'Boot'.... even though it 'looks' like a proper one at first glance! What's the history of the record? Who owned it previously (UK? US?)... and was it dirt cheap?
Guest Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 I think you're right, Sebastian as I suggested on post 15. It doesn't have Nashville Matrix yet it DOES have a very dodgy looking scratched on Matrix... and a Lazer Copy style label... so I'd say it's a 'Boot'.... even though it 'looks' like a proper one at first glance! What's the history of the record? Who owned it previously (UK? US?)... and was it dirt cheap? HELLO, THE HISTORY, WELL I BOUGHT IT OFF A WELL KNOWN BRITISH DEALER, NOT GOING TO SAY WHO, BOUGHT IT ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO FOR £20, BEEN IN A BOX I NEVER OPEN SINCE I BOUGHT IT TO BE HONEST I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I OPENED THE BOX LAST WEEK WHAT WAS ACUALLY IN THERE, MUST HAVE A GOOD SORT OUT I THINK, WAZZ.
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