Demures - Raining Teardrops Brunswick Standard Issue

[Britmusicsoulfan]

Hello All,

I've got a query about the Demures - Raining Teardrops Brunswick 45. I know the promo issue is worth quite a bit of £. I'm working with someone who has the promo copy. It's in VG condition. What's it going for these days in this condition?

Also, I've been in touch with someone else that has the Brunswick standard issue copy. Does the flip always have Jackie Wilson on the flip side? I'm looking at a collection that has the standard issue as part of the grouping, and haven't yet asked to see the flip side.

Thanks, everyone!

BritishMusicSoulFan

[Pete S]

Hello All,

I've got a query about the Demures - Raining Teardrops Brunswick 45. I know the promo issue is worth quite a bit of £. I'm working with someone who has the promo copy. It's in VG condition. What's it going for these days in this condition?

Also, I've been in touch with someone else that has the Brunswick standard issue copy. Does the flip always have Jackie Wilson on the flip side? I'm looking at a collection that has the standard issue as part of the grouping, and haven't yet asked to see the flip side.

Thanks, everyone!

BritishMusicSoulFan

As far as I know it should never have jackie wilson on the b side and if it does, it must surely be a bootleg.

Probably looking at £300 for a real one

[soul45s]

As far as I know it should never have jackie wilson on the b side and if it does, it must surely be a bootleg.

Probably looking at £300 for a real one

Recently booted on a crap cheap look a like label

[Gasher]

55284 - The Demures - Raining Teardrops / He's Got Your Number

not a Jackie wilson in sight

Gasher

[45cellar]

55284 - The Demures - Raining Teardrops / He's Got Your Number

not a Jackie wilson in sight

Gasher

The only Brunswick copies that I know about are the Later Barbara Acklin / Jackie Wilson DEMO's

Never seen a Demures DEMO coupled with Jackie Wilson.

Edited December 7, 2007 by 45cellar

[Stuart Bower]

Mighty piece of vinyl (..just like the weather man....)

[Harrogatesoul]

Or you could get this really rare version:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-DEMURES-Raining-...VQQcmdZViewItem

Seriously - It's good to ask if you don't know as there are folk out there who will willing sell you something that isn't what its supposed to be.

Seems to be another rather large rash of 're-issues' finding their way onto Ebay again. . . .

Rich

[Britmusicsoulfan]

Hello Everyone,

Wow, thanks for the fast responses.

The reason I asked about the Jackie Wilson (I meant Johnny Howard -- oops!) on the flip is that in doing a few online searches, I saw a Demures Brunswick "promo" 45 that was listed on Ebay UK, I believe. It was listed as a promo w/Jackie Wilson on the flip, and it looked completely different from the promo copy I've seen in person. The one is:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOHNNY-HOWARD-The-ch...VQQcmdZViewItem

So, just to recap, the promo is about £300 in VG and the stock issue is ?

Many thanks, everyone! So much great help here!

BritMusicSoulFan

[paultp]

Or you could get this really rare version:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-DEMURES-Raining-...VQQcmdZViewItem

Seriously - It's good to ask if you don't know as there are folk out there who will willing sell you something that isn't what its supposed to be.

Seems to be another rather large rash of 're-issues' finding their way onto Ebay again. . . .

Rich

There is some guy photocopying real labels and sticking them on to bootlegs, he does mention this on his listings but in somewhat smaller type than the main description

Really don't see the point of buying these things and making/selling them in this day and age is just ripping people off however you look at it.

Edited December 7, 2007 by paultp

[Harrogatesoul]

Hi Brit

Below is the link to Popsike - Where there are some real Demures - June this year $900! Am I right that the Issue is much harder?

https://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php...ice&thumbs=

Rich

[45cellar]

Hello Everyone,

Wow, thanks for the fast responses.

The reason I asked about the Jackie Wilson (I meant Johnny Howard -- oops!) on the flip is that in doing a few online searches, I saw a Demures Brunswick "promo" 45 that was listed on Ebay UK, I believe. It was listed as a promo w/Jackie Wilson on the flip, and it looked completely different from the promo copy I've seen in person. The one is:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOHNNY-HOWARD-The-ch...VQQcmdZViewItem

So, just to recap, the promo is about £300 in VG and the stock issue is ?

Many thanks, everyone! So much great help here!

BritMusicSoulFan

I still only have Manships 3rd Edition, I must get an 4th Edition.

However, In the Third Edition

£250 DEMO

£350 Stock Copy

The Stock Copy is Virtually Impossible to find, Only ever seen a Scan on here.

[Harrogatesoul]

There is some guy photocopying real labels and sticking them on to bootlegs, he does mention this on his listings but in somewhat smaller type than the main description

Really don't see the point of buying these things and making/selling them in this day and age is just ripping people off however you look at it.

And they (I wonder who?) must be knocking them out at a rate of knots. Seems to be new ones appearing all the time in many Ebay shops and such like. Nasty little buggers!

Rich

[Anoraks Corner]

The only Brunswick copies that I know about are the Later Barbara Acklin / Jackie Wilson DEMO's

I've got one of those 9-78028 Jackie Wilson/Barbara Acklin promos within my >>> SALES PAGES LINK <<<.

Asking £30 +P&P...mint too, mind!

Edited December 7, 2007 by Anoraks Corner

[Ted Massey]

[soulsalmon]

Ted,wasnt it also released on canadian brunswick?

Salmon

[Britmusicsoulfan]

Hello Tedsoul,

Cheers for posting the Brunswick standard issue Demures 45. That is the one I've been looking at. I've never seen a stock copy either. I've seen the promo in person. So, just to recap, the stock issue Tedsoul posted a scan of is going for more than the promo issue? I'm just trying to avoid making a mistake. Thanks again for all of the great responses. So, the stock is going for about £450 these days?

Tedsoul, what is the condition of your copy?

Thanks, everyone!

BMSF

[Britmusicsoulfan]

Hello Soulsalmon,

The Canadian Brunswick copy has a red label. The US promo is sort of a cream label.

BMSF

[45cellar]

Ted,wasnt it also released on canadian brunswick?

Salmon

Here is a Scan of the Canadian Brunswick from

Popsike.com

[Pete S]

The US promo is sort of a cream label.

BMSF

Er, no it isn't...

[Ted Massey]

Hello Tedsoul,

Cheers for posting the Brunswick standard issue Demures 45. That is the one I've been looking at. I've never seen a stock copy either. I've seen the promo in person. So, just to recap, the stock issue Tedsoul posted a scan of is going for more than the promo issue? I'm just trying to avoid making a mistake. Thanks again for all of the great responses. So, the stock is going for about £450 these days?

Tedsoul, what is the condition of your copy?

Thanks, everyone!

BMSF

I would say ex+ when i bought it the demos were 100 think i paid 125

[Guest gordon russell]

hello TED see you've still got my issue of the demures........terry

[Ted Massey]

hello TED see you've still got my issue of the demures........terry

Bloody hell Terry was it you have been wondering

[bri pinch]

Here is a Scan of the Canadian Brunswick from

Popsike.com

THIS COPY CURRENTLY RESIDING IN SOUTH YORKSHIRE .

BEST, BRI PINCH.

[soulsalmon]

Hello Soulsalmon,

The Canadian Brunswick copy has a red label. The US promo is sort of a cream label.

BMSF

US promo should be yellow with black print

Salmon

[Dave Pinch]

as brian said, the canadian copy is ours bought off the bay a year ago.i thought it was a bargain

but judging by the recent ebay sale the demo seems to be £450

dave

[Blackpoolsoul]

On 09/12/2007 at 17:47, Dave Pinch said:

as brian said, the canadian copy is ours bought off the bay a year ago.i thought it was a bargain

but judging by the recent ebay sale the demo seems to be £450

 

dave

Sorry I am late to this thread and I see it's still expensive to buy

I have a question though ...... who were the Demures ?

[Michael V]

The Demures were from Washington D.C. -sadly, that seems to be all that is known about them .The producer of their great and only 45' ,Clay Roberts, also produced at least one,if not all, of Ruby Johnson's early 45's on Neb's in DC in the early-mid 60's and was involved as a songwriter (and possibly singer too) in Lillian Claibornes' stable of Doo Wop  artists on the 'DC ' label  in Washington DC in the 50's

 

[Blackpoolsoul]

2 hours ago, Michael V said:

The Demures were from Washington D.C. -sadly, that seems to be all that is known about them .The producer of their great and only 45' ,Clay Roberts, also produced at least one,if not all, of Ruby Johnson's early 45's on Neb's in DC in the early-mid 60's and was involved as a songwriter (and possibly singer too) in Lillian Claibornes' stable of Doo Wop  artists on the 'DC ' label  in Washington DC in the 50's

 

Thanks for that, you have now taken me on a journey and lets see where it leads ?

I started searching for Clay Roberts and came up with this (he appeared to have an alias which may be connected as Lillian Claiborne is connect to the second link as is a certain Clayton Roberts)

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PzghAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA487&lpg=PA487&dq=Clay+Roberts+music&source=bl&ots=hk4gg49hBW&sig=ACfU3U0PyOoQ_v09wm7inhECzBQQthmX0A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj79dOr2KTqAhXcSxUIHVOtCGoQ6AEwB3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=Clay Roberts music&f=false

https://doo-wop.blogg.org/ontarios-c31180886