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Just noticed a current bid of £400 for Mel Britt-She'll Come Running Back on Ebay.

Unless my fading eyesight is getting even worse this looks like the second issue copy.

I am right?

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Real!..........notice the stamp is even all the way across and the label has no white-ish "Rim"

Looks too good at 1st glance though :lol:

No doubt Mansh will cast an eye

:P

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Just thinkin, not being an expert, why would somebody auction so many 'bigger ticket' items at once? surely this would reduce the amount of interested parties, ie not many can be looking to make serious multiple bids, :lol:

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Real!..........notice the stamp is even all the way across and the label has no white-ish "Rim"

No doubt Mansh will cast an eye

:lol:

The boots are also more a yellow than a light orange

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No way would I list an item that big on Ebay, better handled by JM.....even though he charges extortionate fee`s :lol::D

But worth every shekel :lol:

:P

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He took a bloody good photo though to get the Matrix in full view.....ive tried a few times with no success.

:lol:

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Definately boots, never been re-issued, if more care were taken they woulda been very hard to spot.

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He took a bloody good photo though to get the Matrix in full view.....ive tried a few times with no success.

:thumbsup:

Hard to read the matrix but it looks different to the yellow/blue copy with white edges.I have never seen an original copy only photos but thought form these photos the stripes were a much darker orange hence my original post.

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Are they boots or legit 2nd issues?

Seem to recall they're Columbia stamped?

Definately boots, never been re-issued, if more care were taken they woulda been very hard to spot.

Hard to read the matrix but it looks different to the yellow/blue copy with white edges.I have never seen an original copy only photos but thought form these photos the stripes were a much darker orange hence my original post.

The boots were pressed at Monach, and by the delta number sometime around the mid 70's.

The matrix number is ZTSC142593. On the original is all in one followed by -1B. On the boot it's ZTSC  142  593 and it's about half the font size of the original. The easiest way to tell the difference is on the originals the 'foot' of the letters & numbers face the label, on the boot they face the grooves

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Personally I'd buy the 6 quid copy. What is it about that one that makes it worth £400?

I noticed 'Never ending love' by the Montclairs going for over $400 a couple of weeks ago. Manship's got it listed on three different labels and the cheapest is £20. A reissue of 'Crook his little finger' went for about £23 a few months back, even a low quality original would set me back over £100. With the money I could save I could buy myself a laser vinyl player within a year...

...If I had that kind of money in the first place... frusty2.gif

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The Mel Britt offering from the scan is certainly 100% original.


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With the money I could save I could buy myself a laser vinyl player within a year...

...If I had that kind of money in the first place... :thumbsup:

It may seem ive been living on another planet, but what is a laser vinyl player?

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It may seem ive been living on another planet, but what is a laser vinyl player?

Its for cutting and making your own Rubber and Plastic clothing.....Gimp Suits Zip-Masks Tourture apparel.... :rolleyes:

You see what you can save up for by just buying the £6.00 copies! :D:(:D

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It may seem ive been living on another planet, but what is a laser vinyl player?

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If you play your old vinyl with a standard turntable, and you hurt every time a little bit having the little needle carving along the grooves, then this product is for you. Your pain needs to be really intense though, because the ELP Laser Vinyl player sells for a cool $15,000.

ELP already sold over 1,000 laser vinyl players.

More details on Future Looks and on the ELP site.

See also the TEAC GF-350 turntable, which can record vinyl onto CDs.

https://www.laser-turntable.com/

Doc

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Guest JJMMWGDuPree
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You can buy them (New) on eBay starting at just £6,700!

And... P&P is freee!!! :D

Guest JJMMWGDuPree
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I just remembered something (Too late to include my post above...).

While I was tootling through Wikipedia a few weeks ago I came across an article about a system that scans vimyl and plays it. The main problem at the moment is that, unlike the laser player, it plays back dirt in the grooves, but they're working on it.

Friction free, no turntable required, no surface noise, analogue reproduction...

That must be how God listens to His record collection.

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I just remembered something (Too late to include my post above...).

While I was tootling through Wikipedia a few weeks ago I came across an article about a system that scans vimyl and plays it. The main problem at the moment is that, unlike the laser player, it plays back dirt in the grooves, but they're working on it.

Friction free, no turntable required, no surface noise, analogue reproduction...

That must be how God listens to His record collection.

The laser turntable also plays back dirt in the grooves. Only a physical needle can play "through" dirt. The laser turntable also comes with a record cleaner because it is so sensitive to dirt.

How is the thing that scans the record analog? How does it store the scan (image?) of the vinyl in an analog way and then replay it.

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The laser turntable also plays back dirt in the grooves. Only a physical needle can play "through" dirt. The laser turntable also comes with a record cleaner because it is so sensitive to dirt.

How is the thing that scans the record analog? How does it store the scan (image?) of the vinyl in an analog way and then replay it.

It only plays back the dirt if you focus the laser on the dirt. Because of the constant vibration dirt gravitates to the bottom of the groove so apparently the trick is to focus the laser on the LH side of the groove, which is the side that gets the least needle wear, but yes, they do now supply the cleaner as part of the kit. If you have a filthy disc then you're right, the laser will indeed play back the dirt.

The scanner recognises the groove and simply plays it back. It's not a digital device, it's more a case of it just 'looks at' the record then the computer analyses it and tells the non-existant needle where to go. This 'needle' then reads back the grooves in analogue. If that last bit makes no sense to you, you're not alone, I don't get it either, but that's the theory and they've got this far with it so I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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For 15,000 I wouldn't like any doubt, bet in 2 years time you will get 1 for £45.00 with DVD recorder at Comet.

Mel Looks proper but never played? it could jump or have a hiss from never being played DOH--- if this makes sense

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It only plays back the dirt if you focus the laser on the dirt. Because of the constant vibration dirt gravitates to the bottom of the groove so apparently the trick is to focus the laser on the LH side of the groove, which is the side that gets the least needle wear, but yes, they do now supply the cleaner as part of the kit. If you have a filthy disc then you're right, the laser will indeed play back the dirt.

The scanner recognises the groove and simply plays it back. It's not a digital device, it's more a case of it just 'looks at' the record then the computer analyses it and tells the non-existant needle where to go. This 'needle' then reads back the grooves in analogue. If that last bit makes no sense to you, you're not alone, I don't get it either, but that's the theory and they've got this far with it so I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt.

If a computer analyses it then it has to be digital and this sounds like a digital interpretation to me. The only way you can get an analogue version is via the tape or vinyl........

Ian D

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The boots were pressed at Monach, and by the delta number sometime around the mid 70's.

The matrix number is ZTSC142593. On the original is all in one followed by -1B. On the boot it's ZTSC  142  593 and it's about half the font size of the original. The easiest way to tell the difference is on the originals the 'foot' of the letters & numbers face the label, on the boot they face the grooves

One good thing about those Monach done Boots is that a small number of them came out on vinyl... so to have it you'd want the orig and the vinyl boot right?

Mal:)

Guest JJMMWGDuPree
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If a computer analyses it then it has to be digital and this sounds like a digital interpretation to me. The only way you can get an analogue version is via the tape or vinyl........

Ian D

The computer analyses it then tells the 'needle' where to go. The needle/lens/whatever itself reads the analogue signal direct to the player without it having to pass though the computer. I guess it's a bit like the computer that controls the engine in my car. The engine remains analogue.

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I'm having a pop at his Cecil Washington.

Like I knew it would, even though I stupidly hoped against hope, my heartfelt and hopeful £750 bid has just been blown out - I hate not being rich!

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