mischief Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Right I know this is silly but what is "Popcorn"? when did the tern come about? I seem to be noticing the term used more lately. Cheers
mischief Posted November 13, 2007 Author Posted November 13, 2007 Don't they have cinemas in Bromley? well thats the only popcorn really worth talking about
Guest NASHEE Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Right I know this is silly but what is "Popcorn"? when did the tern come about? I seem to be noticing the term used more lately. Cheers Popcorn The Popcorn was a club in Belgium, playing midtempo sounds for dancing a sort of slow bop. It was running sort of paralel to the northern scene over here When our guys were over in the States looking for stompers...their DJ's were searching out the more mellow sounds ...that we hated. Kel osborne..Sam Fletcher...Kurt harris. As with Northern soul.....The shite stuff is really shite....the good stuff is truly awesome. It was the Stafford era when the lines between the two scenes started to Blur. The big difference....If they consider it danceable...it's playable...colour of artist is not an issue...neither is the genre. But of course...as with our scene...there are peeps who are very much into rarity & qua;ity alongside others...who just want to dance the term is loosely used on Ebay...to sell...just Like Northern. I collect it....for playing out if it's fast enough...or can be made ...fast enough. But I also collect unplayable stuff that I love...For my ears only (or should I say...for my ears/mervs ears/Jodies ears/Bob morris's ears/ ezzies ears only)...ha ha ha Edited November 13, 2007 by NASHEE
Simsy Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Been discussed twice on here in the recent and semi recent past. May leave it Tony Smith to find the thread as he had input on both and found the first one the last time (if that makes sense). Popcorn is Belgian type Northern - maybe a bit slower or wackier than we'd dance to.
Guest NASHEE Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) well thats the only popcorn really worth talking about If you know that musically it's not worth talking about....why do you need to ask? Edited November 13, 2007 by NASHEE
mischief Posted November 13, 2007 Author Posted November 13, 2007 If you know that musically it's not worth talking about....why do you need to ask? That was ameant as a joke to Pete's reply. I asked as I was intrested, when ever I've asked some one when i'm out, I get a reply oh its pop stuff.. but I thought there was more to it than that, thats why i've asked. Thanks for your replies i'll look for the old threads now.
Guest Bearsy Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 If you know that musically it's not worth talking about....why do you need to ask? because mischief musically is not worth talking about either Paul grab me a carton of fags on the ferry on the way back from Ostend will you he wanted to know if there are any toffeee covered 45s & albums out there that were a bit tasty
Guest eedeecee Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Right I know this is silly but what is "Popcorn"? when did the tern come about? I seem to be noticing the term used more lately. Cheers Club Popcorn in Vrasene, near St. Niklaas (Antwerp) started the Popcorn craze.This was around 1974, at the height of the club's popularity.See where it all started by checking this link https://www.popcornoldies.com/popcorn/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=1 In the early years the DJ's played a great selection of different styles of 50's and 60's music; Doo Wop, R&B, Tamla, Ska and Latin flavoured Jazz like Boogaloo or crazy instrumentals from the 60's like 'Quiet Village' by Martin Denny. Even tunes from Broadway shows like 'whatever Lola wants' were very popular. Each DJ is famous for his own collection of ultra rare singles. The styles may differ but there is one thing that united and defined the sound; the mid-tempo speed and the 'ambiance' (atmosphere) that a certain sequence of records being played, created. Also very typical for the Popcorn sound is the fact that DJ's pitch down the records. Some 45's like 'glendora' by Perry Como are actually played on 33 +8. Or 'Coming home Baby' by Mel Torme is pitched down to -4 to give the voice a more 'negroid' feel. It works! The DJ slowed down the tempo to make it more easy to dance that typical 'soulswing'. Not Jive derived from Rock & Roll but like a mid-tempo Swing or walking tempo where the acrobatics are being changed for more stylish dancing. Belgians call this style of dancing 'soulswing'. Popcorn is a typical Belgian phenomenon, it has nothing to do with Northern Soul but is more similar to the US version; Beach Music. It is also a very collectible genre; prices may fetch up the same heights as Northern Soul. It is especially collected by vinyljunkies in France, Italy, Japan, Holland, and Belgium of course. There's a lack of real interest or knowledge in the UK. Here is my Top 10 of alltime Popcorn classics, the ones marked in bold will be familiar tunes in the early Northern Soul scene as well. Jimmy Hughes -my loving time (Guyten) Sam Fletcher -I'd think it over (Tollie) David Coleman -drown my heart (Barrie) Joe Torres -get out of my way (World Pacific) Prince Buster -dance Cleopatra dance (Blue Beat) The Temptations -I want a love I can see (Gordy) Mel Torme -comin home baby (Atlantic) Edwin Starr- S.O.S (stop her onsight) (Ric Tic) Manny Corchado -Pow Wow (Decca) The Belgian Popcorn scene flourishes even today with weekly parties where some of the premier DJ's are still playing. A new generation is also very active in the French speaking part of Belgium with a slightly different version of Popcorn, the Italian/French interpretation. Less Soul music, more crooner/Cha Cha, Italian crooners....and French stuff of course. check out this link for the only site that's covering Belgian Popcorn. The language is Flemish but check out the charts, these speak for themselves https://www.popcornoldies.com/popcorn/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 Edited November 13, 2007 by eedeecee
Guest NASHEE Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Club Popcorn in Vrasene, near St. Niklaas (Antwerp) started the Popcorn craze.This was around 1974, at the height of the club's popularity.See where it all started by checking this link https://www.popcornoldies.com/popcorn/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=1 In the early years the DJ's played a great selection of different styles of 50's and 60's music; Doo Wop, R&B, Tamla, Ska and Latin flavoured Jazz like Boogaloo or crazy instrumentals from the 60's like 'Quiet Village' by Martin Denny. Even tunes from Broadway shows like 'whatever Lola wants' were very popular. Each DJ is famous for his own collection of ultra rare singles. The styles may differ but there is one thing that united and defined the sound; the mid-tempo speed and the 'ambiance' (atmosphere) that a certain sequence of records being played, created. Also very typical for the Popcorn sound is the fact that DJ's pitch down the records. Some 45's like 'glendora' by Perry Como are actually played on 33 +8. Or 'Coming home Baby' by Mel Torme is pitched down to -4 to give the voice a more 'negroid' feel. It works! The DJ slowed down the tempo to make it more easy to dance that typical 'soulswing'. Not Jive derived from Rock & Roll but like a mid-tempo Swing or walking tempo where the acrobatics are being changed for more stylish dancing. Belgians call this style of dancing 'soulswing'. Popcorn is a typical Belgian phenomenon, it has nothing to do with Northern Soul but is more similar to the US version; Beach Music. It is also a very collectible genre; prices may fetch up the same heights as Northern Soul. It is especially collected by vinyljunkies in France, Italy, Japan, Holland, and Belgium of course. There's a lack of real interest or knowledge in the UK. Here is my Top 10 of alltime Popcorn classics, the ones marked in bold will be familiar tunes in the early Northern Soul scene as well. Jimmy Hughes -my loving time (Guyten) Sam Fletcher -I'd think it over (Tollie) David Coleman -drown my heart (Barrie) Joe Torres -get out of my way (World Pacific) Prince Buster -dance Cleopatra dance (Blue Beat) The Temptations -I want a love I can see (Gordy) Mel Torme -comin home baby (Atlantic) Edwin Starr- S.O.S (stop her onsight) (Ric Tic) Manny Corchado -Pow Wow (Decca) The Belgian Popcorn scene flourishes even today with weekly parties where some of the premier DJ's are still playing. A new generation is also very active in the French speaking part of Belgium with a slightly different version of Popcorn, the Italian/French interpretation. Less Soul music, more crooner/Cha Cha, Italian crooners....and French stuff of course. check out this link for the only site that's covering Belgian Popcorn. The language is Flemish but check out the charts, these speak for themselves https://www.popcornoldies.com/popcorn/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 You explain it much better than I ever could
Guest markus gora Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 You explain it much better than I ever could not only popular in belgium...also in hamburg (germany)...we used to arrange popcorn partys here for years... my popcorn r&B top ten: 1.jimmy ricks-oh what a feelin' 2.steve karmen-river in my blood 3.demons-going to a dance 4.kitty white-i'm gonna be your fool next monday 5.jo ann henderson-baby please don't go 6.milto grayson-it ain't necessarily so 7.jackie weaver-the tingle 8.z.z.hill-one way love affair 9.ronnie savoy-big hand little hand 10.rosco gordon-a little bit of magic
mischief Posted November 13, 2007 Author Posted November 13, 2007 Excellant thank you... will have a look at the sites tonight and have a listern.. not to sure about Mel Thorme down to -4. but again will play it, to get an idea.
mischief Posted November 13, 2007 Author Posted November 13, 2007 5.jo ann henderson-baby please don't go I think Mick Lloyd is playing this out at the moment.. Slow R'n'B
Guest the dukester Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 DOBIE HICKS - WHERE IS SHE - VEE JAY POPCORN
Ezzie Brown Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 OPEN UP THEM MINDS AND HAVE A LISTEN< ITS MOSTLY EARLY BLACK AMERICAN ARTISTS>>> WRITERS>> ARRANGERS>>> OR WHITE FOLK WITH THE SAME THING IN THEIR HEARTS >>> THEY LOVED....I.LOVE IT!!!!! OUR MUSIC STARTED A LONG TIME AGO... NOT 1963....................................EZZIE
Guest andrew bin Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Excellant thank you... will have a look at the sites tonight and have a listern.. not to sure about Mel Thorme down to -4. but again will play it, to get an idea. i'll bring you a cd on saturday
Guest eedeecee Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 You explain it much better than I ever could hi Linda, shame we never met but your name rings a bell with Jeff Callebaut, one of the premier Belgian Popcorn DJ's. I also followed your reactions to the previous Popcorn thread. I am really pleased to know that you are promoting this great music. I used to hang out at all the early places back in 1974; Popcorn Vrasene, Versailles Ostend, Groove Ostend, etc etc. and I've been collecting this stuff ever since...the magic stays.... so yes, I guess my explanation comes from within...
mischief Posted November 14, 2007 Author Posted November 14, 2007 i'll bring you a cd on saturday Cheers matey
Guest NASHEE Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 hi Linda, shame we never met but your name rings a bell with Jeff Callebaut, one of the premier Belgian Popcorn DJ's. I also followed your reactions to the previous Popcorn thread. I am really pleased to know that you are promoting this great music. I used to hang out at all the early places back in 1974; Popcorn Vrasene, Versailles Ostend, Groove Ostend, etc etc. and I've been collecting this stuff ever since...the magic stays.... so yes, I guess my explanation comes from within... Jeff callebaut and Andre Seymus came over and Dj'd for us at a 'Flipside POPCORN special' I helped to promote a few years ago. I'm on his mailing list and he regularly sends me nice soundfiles. I also keep in pretty regular contact with Theo Dumolin...as you will know he does a regular Popcorn radio show from over there in Amsterdam. I also buy from many dealers over in Belgium....I share files on Filetopia in the Belgian Popcorn Oldies room...Hosted by a guy called Harry from Antwerp. In Belgium they know me better as Miss-Popcorn or Linda Couldstone. It's quite hard promoting any type of music over here that is not classed ultimately as soul...although there are now quite a few peeps over here who are budding Popcorn Lovers. I'm pretty much past caring what others think of it...I LOVE it...and thats all that matters. check out www.shinyblackvinyl.com & https://www.myspace.com/popcornpeople Thanks for your reply Linda...Keeping the Faith...Popcorn style Ps...are you James (Jayceecorp)?
Guest eedeecee Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Ps...are you James (Jayceecorp)? nooo!@ James (JayCee Corp) is from Rotterdam, different town...but I've met him a couple of times... Belgian Popcorn music seems to be picked up by a young generation in Rotterdam now. There's a great scene although small... the guys from Hip to the bone do these great comps. And there's a few good nights I've seen your charts on the Popcorn-site. I remember now... Jeff & Andre told me about their gig at Flipside... Flipside used to have this great site with dj's selling lots of Popcorn-tunes. Seemed like a good scene to me...is it still going?
Guest NASHEE Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 nooo!@ James (JayCee Corp) is from Rotterdam, different town...but I've met him a couple of times... Belgian Popcorn music seems to be picked up by a young generation in Rotterdam now. There's a great scene although small... the guys from Hip to the bone do these great comps. And there's a few good nights I've seen your charts on the Popcorn-site. I remember now... Jeff & Andre told me about their gig at Flipside... Flipside used to have this great site with dj's selling lots of Popcorn-tunes. Seemed like a good scene to me...is it still going? I'll pm you
pow wow mik Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 not only popular in belgium...also in hamburg (germany)...we used to arrange popcorn partys here for years... my popcorn r&B top ten: 1.jimmy ricks-oh what a feelin' 2.steve karmen-river in my blood 3.demons-going to a dance 4.kitty white-i'm gonna be your fool next monday 5.jo ann henderson-baby please don't go 6.milto grayson-it ain't necessarily so 7.jackie weaver-the tingle 8.z.z.hill-one way love affair 9.ronnie savoy-big hand little hand 10.rosco gordon-a little bit of magic all played on the UK mod / r&b scene too, as has Joanne henderson for a few years
Guest Pete Griffin Posted November 15, 2007 Posted November 15, 2007 all played on the UK mod / r&b scene too, as has Joanne henderson for a few years So true
Guest nusha Posted November 25, 2007 Posted November 25, 2007 As with Beach music and Northern Soul the link with great Black American music is only tenuous.All you you need is a grasp of the retrospective and a love of americana and one eye on fashionability.
Guest posstot Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 As with Beach music and Northern Soul the link with great Black American music is only tenuous.All you you need is a grasp of the retrospective and a love of americana and one eye on fashionability. ITS ALL THE SAME ARTISTS AND PRODUCERS CREATING A VIBE IN THERE MUSIC, RNB/SOUL FROM THE LATE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES. FEEL THE VIBE, NOT JUST THE BEAT....[WELL IN EZZIE LOVE]...DONT LISTEN TO THE TAGS US WHITE EUROPEANS PUT ON THE MUSIC, POPCORN, MOD, NORTHERN, ETC...THE PEOPLE WHO MADE AND PERFORMED THE MUSIC CALLED IT R N B/SOUL. AINT DAT DE TRUTH.
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