Guest Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 carrie cleveland "make love to me" on AUDIO-ENT is there another version by same artist flip is I NEED LOVE
Steve G Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 carrie cleveland "make love to me" on AUDIO-ENT is there another version by same artist flip is I NEED LOVE Don't think so, just think it wasn't properly issued or something? Bliue label thing, have it somewhere....
Guest ruppy Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 (edited) yes. there is two takes on the same label .one is slightly slower version LIFELINE ALLNIGHTER SAT 27TH OCTOBER YE OLD BELL HOTEL .RETFORD NOTTS Edited October 21, 2007 by ruppy
Russ Vickers Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 (edited) The promo has the better mix, the issue & the LP have the inferior (IMO) mix. A clutch turned up this year that a US dealer got from Carrie, unfortunately most were the stock copies with only a few of the Promos............I spoke with Carrie earlier this year (thanks Trev) & she confirmed all the copies she had were now gone. Hope this helps. Russ Edited October 21, 2007 by Russ Vickers
Steve G Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 (edited) yes. there is two takes on the same label .one is slightly slower version LIFELINE ALLNIGHTER SAT 27TH OCTOBER YE OLD BELL HOTEL .RETFORD NOTTS Well I didn't realise that Mick I got the issue then Edited October 21, 2007 by Steve G
Guest Trevski Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 (edited) The demo's are the ones to have. Issues have the dodgy organ upfront. I have the demo,as I heard that first, then got an issue, realised the difference, returned it and fortunatly got a demo from the guy who got 'em from Carrie. He told me there were a handful of demos only, and about 100 issues as it was a totaly 'home-made" job, privately financed by Carrie herself. They had the demo's made, didn't like the mix  and remastered it for the stockers. Big mistake, IMHO! The album version is almost reggae sounding, much slower and completly different from the 45 versions. I personaly LOVE the promo mix! Lovely clean sound with nice choppy guitar and chimes. Probably much rarer than some 'big ticket' rarities too! Here are both promo copy sides. Make_love_to_me.mp3 I_need_love.mp3 Edited October 23, 2007 by Trevski
Mal C Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) The promo has the better mix, the issue & the LP have the inferior (IMO) mix. A clutch turned up this year that a US dealer got from Carrie, unfortunately most were the stock copies with only a few of the Promos............I spoke with Carrie earlier this year (thanks Trev) & she confirmed all the copies she had were now gone. Hope this helps. Russ I bought my LP and single from him, he has a shop on Haight street in San Fransisco called Soul Merchant just down from Ricky ricardo's... really nice guy as well... Nice meeting you Friday Russ.. Mal.C. Edited October 23, 2007 by Mal.C.
Mal C Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) Wait there, I have a blue Issue I presume, its deffo not the version on the Lp so how do we explain that? cause it does not say promo and is the tracks Trevski put up?? Mal:) Edited October 23, 2007 by Mal.C.
Guest Trevski Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) Wait there, I have a blue Issue I presume, its deffo not the version on the Lp so how do we explain that? cause it does not say promo and is the tracks Trevski put up?? Mal:) The blue issue and promo look similar, apart from the promo bit on the left side. Sounds exactly the same EXCEPT the organ is brought forward in the mix on the issue, so it is like dueting with her, if you get me. The promo has the organ further back in the mix and you can hear the nice vibes/chimes instead. The LPversion is completly different, slower, with a reggae style mix. Not heard of any issues with the same mix as the promo's. I have posted the promo mix. If you go here- https://www.recordmania.net/index.php?PHPSE...=search_records You can hear the issue and LP mixes to compare. Giles Peterson has included the promo mix on a new compilation CD. Part of the review is below Ubiquity persuaded GP to dig up another collection of rare groove gems and once again the BBC radio host, disk jockey and collector extraordinaire (a spare house just for rekids only, anyone?) shares us some of the delights selected out of his Brownswood basement down in London and picked up (or mostly given by?) on his recent visits through the USA and Canada. Take for example Carrie Cleveland’s late 70s ballad “Make Love To Me”. Produced by her husband Bill Cleveland, this song, in its original form, was pressed up as a demo but eventually never saw an official release. Sadly enough, a newer version of the single (with added bizarre organ sound) got released, but didn’t quite compare to the original demo version, as it often goes. Later on Carrie Cleveland released a less memorable private pressing album by the name “Looking Up” on Cleve-Den Productions, also containing the inferior mix of “Make Love To Me”. Issue scan. Promo scan Note: Promo's are BC-1510-A Issues are BC-1511-A Edited October 23, 2007 by Trevski
Mal C Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 The blue issue and promo look the same, apart from the promo bit on the left side. Sounds exactly the same EXCEPT the organ is brought forward in the mix on the issue, so it is like dueting with her, if you get me. The promo has the organ further back in the mix and you can hear the nice vibes/chimes instead. The LPversion is completly different, slower, with a reggae style mix. Not heard of any issues with the same mix as the promo's. I have posted the promo mix. If you go here- https://www.recordmania.net/index.php?PHPSE...=search_records You can hear the issue and LP mixes to compare. Giles Peterson has included the promo mix on a new compilation CD. Part of the review is below Ubiquity persuaded GP to dig up another collection of rare groove gems and once again the BBC radio host, disk jockey and collector extraordinaire (a spare house just for rekids only, anyone?) shares us some of the delights selected out of his Brownswood basement down in London and picked up (or mostly given by?) on his recent visits through the USA and Canada. Take for example Carrie Cleveland's late 70s ballad "Make Love To Me". Produced by her husband Bill Cleveland, this song, in its original form, was pressed up as a demo but eventually never saw an official release. Sadly enough, a newer version of the single (with added bizarre organ sound) got released, but didn't quite compare to the original demo version, as it often goes. Later on Carrie Cleveland released a less memorable private pressing album by the name "Looking Up" on Cleve-Den Productions, also containing the inferior mix of "Make Love To Me". Thats interesting cause when I bought my LP and 45 from Chris at Groove Merchant in Sept 05, he said he was expecting Giles to come over as he was in town.. the rest is History as they say!! Mal:)
Guest wrighty Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 Issues have the dodgy organ upfront god, didnt realise how bad that organ actually is trevski
Guest jinx74 Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 the producer from the CC records also did Hosie Bee who released an LP and 45 that was released before the CC and has a much better sound. I have another CC 45 on Big C Records "Take A Moment/Ive Got A Feeling" which was produced by Bill and Elijah Cole. very nice soul!
Guest Trevski Posted October 23, 2007 Posted October 23, 2007 god, didnt realise how bad that organ actually is trevski I know! How the hell could they prefer that mix to the promo!
Andreas B Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 picked up a stock copy today at groove merchant in SF for a small stack of trade, very very pleased with myself! its not the promo, but I kind of like how the stock version sounds with the organ, its so homespun and charming in my opinion. 1
Anais nin Carms Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 My copy is the one where the organ is pronounced and although at first the organ did make me grind my teeth . I have grown to love it for what it is , Nige passed it to me because he could not tolerate the organ I played it last year at Skeggy and it sounded pretty good loud , others liked it .
Guest Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Ha! I left a stock copy in a shop last weekend as I thought it wasn't in the same league as the promo mix...which leads, and all rather neatly, to current valuations on both please...just in case I have to return to the shop in a hurry!
Liljimmycrank Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Missed out on the promo a couple of months back on ebay, was gutted!! Can't say the issue will ever grow on me, but thats the beauty of soul music and how different it sounds through others ears.
Liljimmycrank Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Issue seems to go for about £60-70 Dave. Demo wise, i missed one for £140 on ebay (didnt have the dough at the time to bid more), but i'd suspect it would fetch a touch more than that in a set sale.
Guest Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Issue seems to go for about £60-70 Dave. 'preciate it
Anais nin Carms Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Ha! I left a stock copy in a shop last weekend as I thought it wasn't in the same league as the promo mix...which leads, and all rather neatly, to current valuations on both please...just in case I have to return to the shop in a hurry! I would go back and get it Flynny , it will do until you get one with less of the Rolf Harris effect:) look at Brenda Jones and the twangy guitar ... we have all grown to accept the twangs now 1
Andreas B Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 manships sold an issue copy last year for around £250, I think its the case of it being rare enough that someone will pay through the nose for it if they really want it. with such few copies its kind of harder to tack an appropriate value on it.
Mal C Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) It's wired that this ever got an issue. The chap I bought mine off in San Francisco said that when he went to visit Carrie she told him she did not like the record, well not that particular cut on the 45, hense it never went past promo copies. My guess is her husband Bill Cleveland and co producer Norris Snowden are the reason for it. Ahhh... Just read Daves post, so the issue is the cut from the lp? That explains things... Malcolm Edited August 31, 2012 by Mal.C.
Russ Vickers Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Carrie had copies that were bought by a store, was just in time to be too late !. Best Russ
Mal C Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Which was Cris at groove merchant... Maybe another thread but while we are in San Francisco, I just got a Columbus Recorders Acetate of Rick Baker - thats called love, double sided as is the released version, interesting thing, wondered if anybody knows much about Rick, and Columbus Recorders? Mal Edited August 31, 2012 by Mal.C.
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