Okeh So What Are The Originals ?

[Spacehopper]

this maybe an easy one for you lot of knowledgable soulies !....but ive been told 2 different things !....what are the original okehs....small 45 or large ??....as i have both with stamped numbers....been told small 45 original...stamped large 45 legit reissue....but also seen ads on ebay saying large 45 original

[Gasher]

Other way round..

45 in large is original

small is re issue

although there are a couple of small 45 that are original too(just to confuse you)

but generally

but none of the big titles..Sandi Sheldon,Seven Souls,Tangeers,Tommy Tate etc

that info is obviously from someone trying to buy them off you tellin you porkies

haha

[Spacehopper]

thanx for clearing that up...i think !

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

...and, of course, there are some originals that don't have either a large or small 45 on them (Walter Jackson's "Road To Ruin" being one that immediately comes to mind).

I don't think - although I could be wrong - that there are many actual bootlegs on the Okeh label, although Okeh tracks were of course booted on other labels. All of the re-issues were manufactured by Okeh's owners, Columbia, and most were pressed from the original stampers.

The only counterfeit/bootleg Okeh that I personally know of (although there may be more) is the Vibrations "Gonna Get Along Without Ya Now", which is pressed on what looks like a compound of cardboard and araldite rather than styrene or vinyl.

[Pete S]

...and, of course, there are some originals that don't have either a large or small 45 on them (Walter Jackson's "Road To Ruin" being one that immediately comes to mind).

I don't think - although I could be wrong - that there are many actual bootlegs on the Okeh label, although Okeh tracks were of course booted on other labels. All of the re-issues were manufactured by Okeh's owners, Columbia, and most were pressed from the original stampers.

The only counterfeit/bootleg Okeh that I personally know of (although there may be more) is the Vibrations "Gonna Get Along Without Ya Now", which is pressed on what looks like a compound of cardboard and araldite rather than styrene or vinyl.

Theres a few that were done late - when I say late, I mean probably early 80's - on black Okeh with silver letters and also a few white demo Okehs, they look so obviously fake though, all on vinyl and all have the wrong typeface.

[Jerry Hipkiss]

The only counterfeit/bootleg Okeh that I personally know of (although there may be more) is the Vibrations "Gonna Get Along Without Ya Now", which is pressed on what looks like a compound of cardboard and araldite rather than styrene or vinyl.

...plus the "Right Track" (vocal) pressing with large 45, moulded label and fake stamp...Mr. Manship posted the full info on that one somewhere...

[Platters 81]

"too hot to hold" M LANCE is original issue with small 45....the demos have big 45....

[Guest ScooterNik]

I've a Williams and Watson boot that I picked up for something like 50p... badly photocopied labels and different numbers on each side

Even I knew it was a boot!

[45cellar]

I've a Williams and Watson boot that I picked up for something like 50p... badly photocopied labels and different numbers on each side

Even I knew it was a boot!

These Originals are Styrene with Stamped Matrix.

--Original - Large 45

As already mentioned there are Vinyl DEMO's about with Poor Photocopied Labels

--Original - Large 45

As with Sandi Sheldon below, Some were repressed by Columbia but with Small 45

--Re-Issue - Small 45

The Original Sandi Sheldon has a Large 45

and is extremely Rare and expensive.

Edited October 18, 2007 by 45cellar

[Marco Nerone]

Hy, i have this copy in my box. Could you anyone tell me something about it (surely a reissue) and the value....?

Thank you in advance

Marco Nerone

[45cellar]

Hy, i have this copy in my box. Could you anyone tell me something about it (surely a reissue) and the value....?

Thank you in advance

Marco Nerone

Hi Marco

--This is an Original Styrene DEMO

--This one is a Styrene Re-Issue.

The Book price in Manships 3rd Edition has The Original at £200 but doesn't specify DEMO or Stock Copy.

I'm not sure what price the Re-Issues are.

Edited October 23, 2007 by 45cellar