Sean Hampsey Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 He's still totally into music and a lovely guy to boot! Ian D ..... I can think of a few who'd be even lovelier to boot! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) Richard there are a good few in mine and i know what they are too (i think) but thing is all this disco is it isnt it malarky is just one big pee take and those that really like it are the ones that it bothers and those that dont like it find it easy to call it disco as a way of maybe of mocking it or maybe not,Personally i thinks people need to chill out a bit and just remember its just a name given to some tunes and not a matter of life or death, me personally i find this thread totally amusing and all because some like it and some dont, who likes marmite i dont but who cares Think you'll find mate that all the dancers out of them would be termed disco, where else in 70's afro-american music would they have been aiming a soulful dancefloor record at other than the disco yes I know most of it's a wind up Edited October 15, 2007 by richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andyrattigan Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Oh shit, 4th time this week I have agreed with you, my street cred is fading, I need to get out more! Disco is just the continuing evolution of one of the greatest art forms produced in the 20th Century, which continues to be produced, albeit much less of it, to this day, Afro-American music, or Black music as it is now often referred to. It is probably one of the most exciting forms of the uptempo parts of this genre, when done correctly, and this is the important bit I suggest. It is an integral part of the soundtrack of our dance culture that America has so thankfully provided us. As usual on here people throw the John Travolta type comparison on which shows their ignorance of the genre (unless you have JT's superb grasp of irony) and more importantly the history of the music they pretend to love. I despair more and more on here when it is fairly obvious many do not have a clue what soul is or its evolution 2 quotes this week - all modern is not soul, its crud, both meant to be funny no doubt, but in reality their poor attempt at humour is just highlighting their ridiculous poor grasp of soul music. I agree with Pete S, I do not think you should like all forms of NS and its descendants, saying as Pete does its not for him due to the differing styles is fair enough, but to dismiss it as part of the Soul family as many others do is frankly ridiculous. Either learn a little more about our music or STF up. Please. Yes I have a raging hangover, but also just getting fed up at the way the majority on here want to take any connection with real soul music out of the Northern scene, its time for fightback and the beauty of real soul, which obviously many on here do not get but will not admit, should be celebrated not hidden due to comments like it was made on 01/01/70 so its not soul. Off for another gin. Jock O'Connor You saved me a rant with that post mate. Sums up exactly how I feel about the whole Modern/Northern debate. Fair enough if people don't like 7ts Soul through to Nu Soul but it does irk me when people say that 7t's Soul isn't soul. I mean would they tell Bobby Womack, Terry Callier, Marvin Gaye etc. etc that there 7t's music wasn't soul because of the date it was made and because a bloke from Lancashire didn't spin it at the Casino. Like you say, fair enough if folk don't like 7ts onwards but they don't really have the right to say it's not Soul when the artists who record it consider it so. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ScooterNik Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I'm not really much of a fan of anything soulful past the early 70s but I can't be the only one who can see that disco was a divergent extension on early 70s soul? Same as in the 60s there were one or two 'stereotypical' types of soul but with every label/band/producer adding their own spin, preferences and overall sound to the mainstream Motown and Atlantic/Stax sounds? This has given us the depth of records that we love to this day. Bring it forward to the 70s and the Atlantic sound has all but died and Motown has changed its traditional orchestration as the 60s came to an end. THe producers etc of the day would be busy copying this newer sound (as they were in the business of trying to sell records, not stick to some soulful holy grail) but adding their own twist to it, which is surely where the earliest disco tunes came from? The beat got heavier but the mix lighter and a new variant on the soul sound was born. Its pretty self evident that not every track with a disco feel would have been a hit, and that very few are known to soul fans in much the same way that early blues fans probably don't have a great depth of knowledge about the forms of rock music that took its roots from the blues and progressed and changed that sound Its a pretty safe bet that in amongst those failed chart attempts are songs that hail back to the 60s and would be welcome on the soul scene but still carry their disco leanngs proudly? There is plenty of evidence to show this to be the case..... All branches from the same tree, and unless you're a collector of a particular sound I don't see how you can be in a position to praise or slate any genre. As has been hinted at by other posters, disco is much deeper from a collectors point of view than Boney M/Patrick Hernadez or any other top 40 tat that the average soul fan knows in much the same way that northern is deeper than half a dozen motown releases and Footsie? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 These people had the right idea... DISCO INFERNO: Thousands of people rush the field at Comiskey Park in Chicago during the infamous Disco Sucks Riot of July 12, 1979. More than 50,000 disco-hating fans had descended on the baseball park to watch several thousand disco records get blown up. Sadly, violence and destruction soon erupted. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest eedeecee Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) Can't help noticing on this forum that 'disco' is a dirty word for some people! Why is that? What is it about 'disco' or some people's perceptions of 'disco' that winds people up? Discuss! Steve. great topic Steve, but I prefer to let the music speak for itself, so here's my list of fav great Disco Undisputed Truth You + Me = Love T-connection - Do what you wanna do Laso - another star Players Association - I like it Faith, hope and charity - to each his own Peoples choice - do it any way you wanna do it CJ&Co- Devils gun Dooley Silverspoon - As long as you know who you are Bruce Johnson - Pipeline Roy Ayres - Hey Uh What You say Come on. Roy AYres - The Path Barkays- -Kilowatt Invasion El Coco - Cocomotion Linda Clifford - If my friends could see me now Wilbert Longmire - Black Is The Colour Peter Brown - Do you want to get funky with me Saturday Night Band - Dance Dance Patrice Rushen - Number One Saturday Night Band - In The Bush People Choice - You Oughta Be Dancin Peoples Choice -Jam Jam Jam Roy Ayres -Running Away Gregg Diamond -Cream Always Rises Ashford & Simpson -Dont Cost You Nothing El Coco -Mad As Hell George Benson -Six to Four Slave - You and Me Roy Ayers - Can't you see me Blackbyrds - Rock Creek Party, Walking in Rhythm, Time is moving Donald Byrd - Dominos War - Galaxy Crown Heights Affair - Dreamin' a dream Kool & the Gang - Open Sesame Creative Source - Who is he and what is he to you? Brass Construction - Movin Rahni Harris - 6 million steps Dexter Wansel - Life on Mars Jones Girls - Nights over Egypt Jean Carne - Is that all it was Shalamar - Take that to the bank Brothers Johnson - I'll be good to you Emotions - Best of my love Isaac Hayes and Millie Jackson -Sweet Music, Soft Lights and You Ashford and Simpson -Dont Cost You Nothing Spyro Gyro - Alternating Currents Azymuth - Jazz Carnival Ramsey Lewis - Salonga/ Love Notes/ Tequilla Mockingbird Earth Wind & Fire - That's the way of the world Cornelius Bumpus - A Clear View Donald Byrd - Places and Spaces Donald Byrd - Loving You Players Association - Turn the music up Harlem Underground Band-'Finger In It' Johnny Hammond -Los Conquistadors Chocolates / Fantasy Eddie Russ -Zaius Gabor Zsabor -Keep Smilin Charles Earland -Intergalactic Love Song Earth Wind & Fire -Zanzibar Jon Hendricks - Bet You Thought Rick James - You and I / Hollywood MFSB - Fortune Teller The Salsoul Orchestra -Getaway Herbie Hancock -Tell Everybody Leon Huff -Tight Money Vincent Montana Sextet -Heavy Vibes The Two Man Sound - Que Tal America George Benson - The World is a Ghetto Lamont Dozier - Going Back to My Roots Lolletta Holloway - Hit & Run Instant Funk - I've Got my Mind Made Up Tom Brown - Funking for Jamaica Francine McGee - Delerium Evelyn Champagne King-Shame South Shore Commission - Free Man Space - Carry On Turn Me On Crown Heights Affair - Dreaming A Dream Billy Preston -'Nothing from Nothing' Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band's LP - 'I'll play the fool for you' Edited October 15, 2007 by eedeecee Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) Just been with him at the Red Bull Music Academy in Toronto plus he played a club set t'other night @ a club. He's still totally into music and a lovely guy to boot! Ian D ..... you name dropper , Ian ..... But what do you mean by " having been " with Arthur Baker ? You will be telling us next that you had tea with John " Jellybean " Benitez ...... Malc Burton Edited October 15, 2007 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Name dropper ..... You will be telling us next that you had tea with John " Jellybean " Benitez ...... Malc Burton more chance of KD"LESBEEN" LAING ...MALC MOLDIE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 These people had the right idea... DISCO INFERNO: Thousands of people rush the field at Comiskey Park in Chicago during the infamous Disco Sucks Riot of July 12, 1979. More than 50,000 disco-hating fans had descended on the baseball park to watch several thousand disco records get blown up. Sadly, violence and destruction soon erupted. I can picture them all now with there Van Halen and Kiss t-shirts on. With all that vinyl on fire were they playing "Those About to Rock We Pollute You" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I can picture them all now with there Van Halen and Kiss t-shirts on. With all that vinyl on fire were they playing "Those About to Rock We Pollute You" I'm sure I remember this happening, or I've seen some film of it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I can picture them all now with there Van Halen and Kiss t-shirts on. With all that vinyl on fire were they playing "Those About to Rock We Pollute You" yeah and eating Marmite sandwiches too Richard , is that really what happened at that place though and all over a bit of Disco Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) I'm sure I remember this happening, or I've seen some film of it. Yes Pete I've seen footage of this as well, and apparently it was 50 cent beer night so they all got drunk and wrecked the place (honest) Edited October 15, 2007 by richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 wasnt wigan casino voted the best discotheque in the world one year ahead of studio 54 kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 wasnt wigan casino voted the best discotheque in the world one year ahead of studio 54 kev Correct ..... But Gerry Marshall refused to let people in like they did at Studio 54 ....... Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 wasnt wigan casino voted the best discotheque in the world one year ahead of studio 54 kev Discotheque was the name now given to "Clubs" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) A discoth¨que (or discoteque), is an entertainment venue or club with recorded music played by "Discaires" (Disc jockeys) through a PA system, rather than an on-stage band. The word derives from the French word discoth¨que (a type of nightclub). Discoth¨que is a portmanteau coined around 1941 from disc and biblioth¨que (library) by La Discoth¨que, then located on the Rue de la Huchette in Paris, France. Previously, most bars and nightclubs used live bands as entertainment. The term disco was originally a 1960s US abbreviation of discoth¨que, a place where "disco music" was played. Edited October 15, 2007 by richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 you name dropper , Ian ..... But what do you mean by " having been " with Arthur Baker ? You will be telling us next that you had tea with John " Jellybean " Benitez ...... Malc Burton Well I did tell Arthur that oral sex was out of the question due to potential 'beard burns' LOL..... And Jellybean's just become a MySpace friend so who knows.........? Didja meet up with Mr Schofield? Best, Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Correct ..... But Gerry Marshall refused to let people in like they did at Studio 54 ....... Malc Burton That looks suspiciously like the cover of Deep Disco Culture Vol 1! Vol 2 coming up next week for all you Disco freaks on here....... Best, Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 That looks suspiciously like the cover of Deep Disco Culture Vol 1! Vol 2 coming up next week for all you Disco freaks on here....... Best, Ian D Cant wait!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Val (Chunky) Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) These people had the right idea... DISCO INFERNO: Thousands of people rush the field at Comiskey Park in Chicago during the infamous Disco Sucks Riot of July 12, 1979. More than 50,000 disco-hating fans had descended on the baseball park to watch several thousand disco records get blown up. Sadly, violence and destruction soon erupted. Edited October 16, 2007 by Chunky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ImberBoy Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 great topic Steve, but I prefer to let the music speak for itself, so here's my list of fav great Disco Undisputed Truth You + Me = Love T-connection - Do what you wanna do Laso - another star Players Association - I like it Faith, hope and charity - to each his own Peoples choice - do it any way you wanna do it CJ&Co- Devils gun Dooley Silverspoon - As long as you know who you are Bruce Johnson - Pipeline Roy Ayres - Hey Uh What You say Come on. Roy AYres - The Path Barkays- -Kilowatt Invasion El Coco - Cocomotion Linda Clifford - If my friends could see me now Wilbert Longmire - Black Is The Colour Peter Brown - Do you want to get funky with me Saturday Night Band - Dance Dance Patrice Rushen - Number One Saturday Night Band - In The Bush People Choice - You Oughta Be Dancin Peoples Choice -Jam Jam Jam Roy Ayres -Running Away Gregg Diamond -Cream Always Rises Ashford & Simpson -Dont Cost You Nothing El Coco -Mad As Hell George Benson -Six to Four Slave - You and Me Roy Ayers - Can't you see me Blackbyrds - Rock Creek Party, Walking in Rhythm, Time is moving Donald Byrd - Dominos War - Galaxy Crown Heights Affair - Dreamin' a dream Kool & the Gang - Open Sesame Creative Source - Who is he and what is he to you? Brass Construction - Movin Rahni Harris - 6 million steps Dexter Wansel - Life on Mars Jones Girls - Nights over Egypt Jean Carne - Is that all it was Shalamar - Take that to the bank Brothers Johnson - I'll be good to you Emotions - Best of my love Isaac Hayes and Millie Jackson -Sweet Music, Soft Lights and You Ashford and Simpson -Dont Cost You Nothing Spyro Gyro - Alternating Currents Azymuth - Jazz Carnival Ramsey Lewis - Salonga/ Love Notes/ Tequilla Mockingbird Earth Wind & Fire - That's the way of the world Cornelius Bumpus - A Clear View Donald Byrd - Places and Spaces Donald Byrd - Loving You Players Association - Turn the music up Harlem Underground Band-'Finger In It' Johnny Hammond -Los Conquistadors Chocolates / Fantasy Eddie Russ -Zaius Gabor Zsabor -Keep Smilin Charles Earland -Intergalactic Love Song Earth Wind & Fire -Zanzibar Jon Hendricks - Bet You Thought Rick James - You and I / Hollywood MFSB - Fortune Teller The Salsoul Orchestra -Getaway Herbie Hancock -Tell Everybody Leon Huff -Tight Money Vincent Montana Sextet -Heavy Vibes The Two Man Sound - Que Tal America George Benson - The World is a Ghetto Lamont Dozier - Going Back to My Roots Lolletta Holloway - Hit & Run Instant Funk - I've Got my Mind Made Up Tom Brown - Funking for Jamaica Francine McGee - Delerium Evelyn Champagne King-Shame South Shore Commission - Free Man Space - Carry On Turn Me On Crown Heights Affair - Dreaming A Dream Billy Preston -'Nothing from Nothing' Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band's LP - 'I'll play the fool for you' Not too sure if the "Caisters Crew" and The Jazz Funk Fans would like to categorise most of the stuff on the list as "Disco", I suppose all records played to a paying audience are "Disco"? But this list hardly represents the Friday night and Saturday night chicken in a basket crowd? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Whoever adopts the particular tunes and sound that they like is a completely different matter. Honestly, has any artist dreamt that their record would be played to a crowd of people eating chicken in a basket? or one day this will be played at Caister? What they did want was a big disco success that crossed over to the charts so they could make a shed load of money. but some were overlooked, some on smaller labels with no big budget - any of this sound familiar? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Souljazera Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 "Save The Youth" by Mellow Madness, james this is jazz funk surely??? ??? hope you are on the mend..sounds like a very unpleasant experience Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Well I did tell Arthur that oral sex was out of the question due to potential 'beard burns' LOL..... And Jellybean's just become a MySpace friend so who knows.........? Didja meet up with Mr Schofield? Best, Ian D Hi Ian ..... Not as yet : we have conversed several times , and it was like we talked last Sunday , never mind 25 years ago ..... We will be meeting up in the near future , when Paul comes oop t'north again ...... Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 great topic Steve, but I prefer to let the music speak for itself, so here's my list of fav great Disco Laso - another star Dr Buzzard's Original Savannah Band's LP - 'I'll play the fool for you' Anyone got an mp3 of Laso please? I did have the Dr Buzzard lp...but on looking in cupboard not there....f*ck knows what happened to that one Is it worth reading through the 3 pages to catch up or as it gone done the path topics usually go Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Nice photo, I thought I recognised a few faces but I can't work out which venue they were queueing outside. Paul Mooney well it certainly ain't the "disco" Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 well it certainly ain't the "disco" Paul Hello Chalky, One thing I noticed is that everyone in that crowd had similar tattoos, probably a "gang culture" thing, so it's likely they would have caused trouble that night. Paul Mooney Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Hello Chalky, One thing I noticed is that everyone in that crowd had similar tattoos, probably a "gang culture" thing, so it's likely they would have caused trouble that night. Paul Mooney Hi Paul, trouble on the soul scene......never Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bernadette Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 These people had the right idea... DISCO INFERNO: Thousands of people rush the field at Comiskey Park in Chicago during the infamous Disco Sucks Riot of July 12, 1979. More than 50,000 disco-hating fans had descended on the baseball park to watch several thousand disco records get blown up. Sadly, violence and destruction soon erupted. thought this was more about an anti-gay/black protest than about the music - disco was targeted by macho white rock fans venting their frustratation over the popularity of what was seen as predominately gay/black in the US Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Hi Paul, trouble on the soul scene......never its true chalky and they named him James after all their his sheep Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 james this is jazz funk surely??? ??? hope you are on the mend..sounds like a very unpleasant experience Nah, disco. Or is it northern? Might be funk I guess. Good though, whatever it is I'm fines thanks, bit of whiplash and bruised collar bone. You never know, it might have knocked some sense into me... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Nah, disco. Or is it northern? Might be funk I guess. Good though, whatever it is I'm fines thanks, bit of whiplash and bruised collar bone. You never know, it might have knocked some sense into me... What you been up to young man, not been bending that car of yours out of shape have you, and you such a careful driver Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soul99 easylay Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Wiki has the version I'm familar with: Tribal Rites of the New Saturday Night was the title of a 1975 New York Magazine article by British rock journalist Nik Cohn. It was the basis for the plot and characters in the movie Saturday Night Fever. Originally, the article was published as a piece of factual reporting. However, around the time of the twentieth anniversary of the film, Cohn revealed that the article was actually a work of fiction. Assigned to write an article about the early 1970s disco scene, Cohn, a newcomer to the United States, was baffled by the working-class subculture he was trying to cover. In desperation, he created the characters that were to become Tony Manero and company But as Cohn was a Brit he could have easily incorporated stuff he knew about as you suggest Garv. In an interview recently Robin Gibb made the following comments: "....Saturday Night Fever was just another another project we were working on, we weren't sure about it first, we thought it sounded like porn-film music. The film was just a low budget number about an article in 'New York' magazine called 'Tribal Rites Of The New Saturday Night', about dance competitions. Paramount asked if we had any songs for it. We'd already recorded Night Fever and Stayin' Alive. We didn't think of it as dance music; we called it 'blue eyed soul'......." Straight from the shiney white teeth of a certain Gee of the Bee Gees - they consider it "soul" the world called it "disco" - maybe there isn't that much difference from progressive/modern soul and disco after all - let's face it they made the music and thought they were making soul, so maybe they were!!!!!! I personally think that the Saturday Night Fever sound track is a fantastic record from start to finish - it perfectly encapsulated a moment in time, when everything was about being a peacock on a Saturday Night and losing yourself to the music on a dance floor (sound familiar anyone??? ). My love of Northern is rooted heavily in the "oldies" section - I had previously dismissed modern soul as shite - I then realised that "modern" is pretty much disco, I also (begrudgingly) admitted that there are good and bad "Old" Northern Soul tracks and good and bad (most bad ) "modern" soul records and that there are good and bad "disco" tracks - but I think you'll find that most of the crap "disco" is in actual fact "pop" - but that's a different argument altogether So in summation, if you like disco - fair enough, who are we to argue!! I rest my case m'lud.................. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 (edited) Did you know that this year, scientists created a sheep with 15% human organs in it? If these sheep evolve like scientist hope the prospect of sheep organs being transplanted into humans will become a reality. Eventually scientists will be able to precisely match a sheep to a transplant patient, using their own stem cells to create their own flock of sheep. Could you imagine, a whole flock of Back Door Kennys... A "flock" of Back Door Kennies, JT Trouble ? I would have thought a "pride" more appropriate surely Is it these sheep that trouble you. James ? Cheers Paul PS That last bit was from Mr Sid Bridge btw PPS Both of us "wooliebacks" love Disco Edited October 17, 2007 by soul shrews Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 thought this was more about an anti-gay/black protest than about the music - disco was targeted by macho white rock fans venting their frustratation over the popularity of what was seen as predominately gay/black in the US Yep you're right there Bernadette, I remember a documentry a few years ago where one of the employees on that night was saying they were bringing Marvin Gaye LPs along to burn (blow up ) with the "disco" records I dunno.................. they'll be burning books next ! Cheers Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest eedeecee Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Not too sure if the "Caisters Crew" and The Jazz Funk Fans would like to categorise most of the stuff on the list as "Disco", I suppose all records played to a paying audience are "Disco"? But this list hardly represents the Friday night and Saturday night chicken in a basket crowd? it all depends on the definition of 'disco' but all the records on my list came out during the golden years of Disco and were regarded as such... whoever thinks that Saturday Night Fever is the strictest definition of Disco needs to go and see a doctor.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 norms? nowt normal about the way they were at my local disco jumpin around like morons and callin it dancing we had to wait four hours to hear something soulful..heard 4 tracks then that was it till the following week is that a dig at my set at iow niter? moldie ps..i got invite for you for my 45th b/day bash Phreek's "Weekend" is a damned sight more "soulful" than many of the god-awful Northern pop tunes I've seen raved over on here and that's a fact, and there are lots more. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) But people weren't saying all 70's is disco, they were saying that in the main, actual DISCO is rubbish, which it is. Patrick Hernandez anyone Judy Street anyone??? "Condition Red"??, Rain??, Lenny (Tony Blackburn) Gamble?? etc. etc. etc.... Are we then to judge the entire Northern scene on such "crud" as these examples? Since disco evolved (in part) from both the productions of Norman Whitfield and the 70s Philly Sound, it says a great deal that so many people are ready to dismiss the entire genre out of hand! There were some great disco (and funk) records out there for anyone who took the trouble to sort through the commercial dross, but of course that meant becoming just the teensiest bit more broadminded than the Wigan mentality allows even now. I blame the drugs.... Edited October 19, 2007 by mel brat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest garv Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 (edited) Judy Street anyone??? "Condition Red"??, Rain??, Lenny (Tony Blackburn) Gamble?? etc. etc. etc.... Are we then to judge the entire Northern scene on such "crud" as these examples? Since disco evolved (in part) from both the productions of Norman Whitfield and the 70s Philly Sound, it says a great deal that so many people are ready to dismiss the entire genre out of hand! There were some great disco (and funk) records out there for anyone who took the trouble to sort through the commercial dross, but of course that meant becoming just the teensiest bit more broadminded than the Wigan mentality allows even now. I blame the drugs.... Mel I was a Wigan regular [ 76-81] & yet i still collected Philly,funk, disco, modern soul releases of the day [ in short, quality black music] & i still do. I`m not alone in being a member of the Casino & enjoying & collecting all aspects of black music. Do you really think that Wigan did`t play anything other than white pop stompers to pilled up kids in baggies & vests?. What is the Wigan mentality?, countless people i knew at the Casino were into different forms of black music. Isn`t your stereotyping of " Wigan goers" just as bad as the "disco" stereotyping your accusing others of. Garv Edited October 20, 2007 by garv Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 (edited) Judy Street anyone??? "Condition Red"??, Rain??, Lenny (Tony Blackburn) Gamble?? etc. etc. etc.... Are we then to judge the entire Northern scene on such "crud" as these examples? Since disco evolved (in part) from both the productions of Norman Whitfield and the 70s Philly Sound, it says a great deal that so many people are ready to dismiss the entire genre out of hand! There were some great disco (and funk) records out there for anyone who took the trouble to sort through the commercial dross, but of course that meant becoming just the teensiest bit more broadminded than the Wigan mentality allows even now. I blame the drugs.... Mel, You have an axe to grind which you seem determined to shoe horn into every debate (oops - mixed metaphor there!) I added those two huge lists of disco records that I remembered being played on the scene, and they were only the ones I copied from the Disco site I posted about, I could have added many more from memory. Apart from smaller clubs my main haunts were the Casino and the Ritz and it's fair to say I heard the majority of those tunes at both venues. What you say about people who went to Wigan is insulting and stereotyping. I'm doing a gospel set at a World Music festival tomorrow morning but I suppose that's just another example of not being broad minded? Godz Edited October 20, 2007 by Godzilla Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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