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don't think most know what disco is when dismissing it as they do when often what they are referring to is just a continuation and progression of the 60's stuff.

Where I bow to your superior knowledge on most things I can't agree with you there chalky, it is not a progression, mostly what is known as "modern" nowadays has a totally different make up to 60s stuff so how can it be a progression when it is totally different.

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Wasn't this played at the Casino? "You + Me" by Undisputed Truth. Not that it bothers me and not that I'd know unless someone told me, but it does seem be important to alot of people. As long as it was played at the the Casino they llike it and it can't be disco.

People are funny, like complicated sheep with bad manners :rolleyes:

Oh shit, 4th time this week I have agreed with you, my street cred is fading, I need to get out more! :thumbsup::unsure:

Disco is just the continuing evolution of one of the greatest art forms produced in the 20th Century, which continues to be produced, albeit much less of it, to this day, Afro-American music, or Black music as it is now often referred to. It is probably one of the most exciting forms of the uptempo parts of this genre, when done correctly, and this is the important bit I suggest. It is an integral part of the soundtrack of our dance culture that America has so thankfully provided us. As usual on here people throw the John Travolta type comparison on which shows their ignorance of the genre (unless you have JT's superb grasp of irony) and more importantly the history of the music they pretend to love. I despair more and more on here when it is fairly obvious many do not have a clue what soul is or its evolution

2 quotes this week - all modern is not soul, its crud, both meant to be funny no doubt, but in reality their poor attempt at humour is just highlighting their ridiculous poor grasp of soul music.

I agree with Pete S, I do not think you should like all forms of NS and its descendants, saying as Pete does its not for him due to the differing styles is fair enough, but to dismiss it as part of the Soul family as many others do is frankly ridiculous. Either learn a little more about our music or STF up. Please.

Yes I have a raging hangover, but also just getting fed up at the way the majority on here want to take any connection with real soul music out of the Northern scene, its time for fightback and the beauty of real soul, which obviously many on here do not get but will not admit, should be celebrated not hidden due to comments like it was made on 01/01/70 so its not soul.

Off for another gin.

Jock O'Connor

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Did you know that this year, scientists created a sheep with 15% human organs in it? If these sheep evolve like scientist hope the prospect of sheep organs being transplanted into humans will become a reality. Eventually scientists will be able to precisely match a sheep to a transplant patient, using their own stem cells to create their own flock of sheep. Could you imagine, a whole flock of Back Door Kennys...

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I'd worry when they start to DJ and collect records

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Wasn't this played at the Casino? "You + Me" by undisputed truth. Not that it bothers me and not that I'd know unless someone told me, but it does seem to be important to alot of people. As long as it was played at the the Casino they like it and it can't be disco.

People are funny, like complicated sheep with bad manners :lol:

Not true JT, some of us just stopped going in about 1975 and voted with our feet.

QoFxx

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I'd worry when they start to DJ and collect records

Come on Malayka, don't get me started. You know full well that... :lol::lol:

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Where I bow to your superior knowledge on most things I can't agree with you there chalky, it is not a progression, mostly what is known as "modern" nowadays has a totally different make up to 60s stuff so how can it be a progression when it is totally different.

QoFxx

I rest my case your honour!

Unbelievable, why dont you write a thesis on why Afro-American culture stopped in 1969 because someone from Wales didnt like how the music changed.

FFS David Irving has been jailed for less scurrilous points of view.

If what you are saying is you dont like the changes fine, but stop trying to rewrite f*****g history. What next, Barbara Mills for first Black American president.

I need a lie down

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Oh shit, 4th time this week I have agreed with you, my street cred is fading, I need to get out more! :(:D

Disco is just the continuing evolution of one of the greatest art forms produced in the 20th Century, which continues to be produced, albeit much less of it, to this day, Afro-American music, or Black music as it is now often referred to. It is probably one of the most exciting forms of the uptempo parts of this genre, when done correctly, and this is the important bit I suggest. It is an integral part of the soundtrack of our dance culture that America has so thankfully provided us. As usual on here people throw the John Travolta type comparison on which shows their ignorance of the genre and more importantly the history of the music they pretend to love. I despair more and more on here when it is fairly obvious many do not have a clue what soul is or its evolution

2 quotes this week - all modern is not soul, its crud, both meant to be funny no doubt, but in reality their poor attempt at humour is just highlighting their ridiculous poor grasp of soul music.

I agree with Pete S, I do not think you should like all forms of NS and its descendants, saying as Pete does its not for him due to the differing styles is fair enough, but to dismiss it as part of the Soul family as many others do is frankly ridiculous. Either learn a little more about our music or STF up. Please.

Yes I have a raging hangover, but also just getting fed up at the way the majority on here want to take any connection with real soul music out of the Northern scene, its time for fightback and the beauty of real soul, which obviously many on here do not get but will not admit, should be celebrated not hidden due to comments like it was made on 01/01/70 so its not soul.

Off for another gin.

Jock O'Connor

Hoorah :lol:

I don't particularly like beat ballads, there you go - I've fessed up that I don't like everything soul :lol:

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DISCO LOAD OF BOLLOCKS GIVE ME NORTHERN ANY DAY ALL SOUNDS THE SAME TO ME PLUS LOOKING LIKE JOHN TRAVOLTA ON THE DANCE FLOOR NOT MY IMAGE KEEP IT FOR THE WEDDING RECEPTION DANCING DIVAS..N AUTIES N UNCLES

YOUR THREDS MAKE ME LAUGH STARTED AS DISCO THEN WE JUMP TO SHEEP WONDER IF THE DEFRA WEBSITE COVERS NORTHERN N 45'S FOR SALE

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I rest my case your honour!

Unbelievable, why dont you write a thesis on why Afro-American culture stopped in 1969 because someone from Wales didnt like how the music changed.

FFS David Irving has been jailed for less scurrilous points of view.

If what you are saying is you dont like the changes fine, but stop trying to rewrite f*****g history. What next, Barbara Mills for first Black American president.

I need a lie down

:lol: - tho I would keep pouring those gins Jock and carry on your fine retorts!

Rich

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Just sorting my tunes out for tonight................

First 10 off the top of the pile (honest!).........

Stevie Wonder - Another Star

Gladys Knight - Bourgie, Bourgie

Sister Sledge - Thinking Of You

Odessey - Native new Yorker

Taste Of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie

Gayle Adams - Plain Out Of Luck

Originals - Down To Love Town

TS Monk - Candidate For Love

Evelyn Champagne King - Shame

Donna Summer - Heaven Knows

You're all very welcome to come along :lol: .

(Moldie, usual place, usual time. See you there. Same deal...knock 3 times and ask for Fifi. Oh and NO roller skates this week)

Now there's a choon, disco or no disco :lol:

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Just because they were issued at a time when disco was everywhere doesn't actually mean that they are disco. I mean, The Moments - Nine Times - disco?

I would consider "Nine Times" to definitely be Disco in it's early form. Although I can see how it's been accepted on the Northern scene as you can comfortably dance Northern to it aswell as Disco. :lol:

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Oh shit, 4th time this week I have agreed with you, my street cred is fading, I need to get out more! :(:D

Disco is just the continuing evolution of one of the greatest art forms produced in the 20th Century, which continues to be produced, albeit much less of it, to this day, Afro-American music, or Black music as it is now often referred to. It is probably one of the most exciting forms of the uptempo parts of this genre, when done correctly, and this is the important bit I suggest. It is an integral part of the soundtrack of our dance culture that America has so thankfully provided us. As usual on here people throw the John Travolta type comparison on which shows their ignorance of the genre (unless you have JT's superb grasp of irony) and more importantly the history of the music they pretend to love. I despair more and more on here when it is fairly obvious many do not have a clue what soul is or its evolution

2 quotes this week - all modern is not soul, its crud, both meant to be funny no doubt, but in reality their poor attempt at humour is just highlighting their ridiculous poor grasp of soul music.

I agree with Pete S, I do not think you should like all forms of NS and its descendants, saying as Pete does its not for him due to the differing styles is fair enough, but to dismiss it as part of the Soul family as many others do is frankly ridiculous. Either learn a little more about our music or STF up. Please.

Yes I have a raging hangover, but also just getting fed up at the way the majority on here want to take any connection with real soul music out of the Northern scene, its time for fightback and the beauty of real soul, which obviously many on here do not get but will not admit, should be celebrated not hidden due to comments like it was made on 01/01/70 so its not soul.

Off for another gin.

Jock O'Connor

Correct. :lol:

And I love disco! :lol:

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Now there's a choon, disco or no disco :(

2 right! All of those I posted are "choons" (as they seem to say nowadays) :lol:

Can't understand that folk completely toss aside a particular genre of music.... :lol: Then again, as often, as that old classic goes...... "It's time to play the music, it's time to light the lights"...(etc)

Aha! Then again, EUREKA! I can see the point....... I completely despise that "northern soul" palarvar cos I listened to that "footsee" and it just does NOT butter my muffin. No matter what you all say, I will not be persuaded. Do not try to change my mind! Ergo, using my Mr Spock powers of deduction, all "northern soul" is shyte! Simple logic, Captain Kirk.

Oh bo11ocks!! I've just listened to JD Bryant! There goes my theory............... Back to the drawing board Scotty. Beam me up

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How come the person who started this thread posted and ran?

i feel used.....and not in a good way!!!!

what are his thoughts on the subject?

Just come back on line - 67 replies!! My view is that there is good and bad disco (by good I mean the likes of Four Below Zero and Double Exposure and by bad I mean cheesy euro dross by the likes of Boney M). It seems to me that a lot of the old Mecca spins and recent 70s discoveries were simply recordings by soul artists aimed at the dancefloor - disco in other words. But just to dismiss it all out of hand through some ridiculous prejudice seems misinformed to say the least! IMHO.

Steve.

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Several people have still not got over the shock of when I announced about 3 years ago that Thinking Of You by Sister Sledge was one of my all time favourite records. But that's just as a RECORD, not my favourite disco record or modern record or whatever, it's just a record I like. Why do things always have to be put in pigeonholes? Apart from pigeons, obviously.

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Did you know that this year, scientists created a sheep with 15% human organs in it? If these sheep evolve like scientist hope the prospect of sheep organs being transplanted into humans will become a reality. Eventually scientists will be able to precisely match a sheep to a transplant patient, using their own stem cells to create their own flock of sheep. Could you imagine, a whole flock of Back Door Kennys...

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They would be half as arrogant,and twice as entertaining :lol: fukcin`youths.

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If people are talking about not liking disco and trying to use examples that are out and out commercial disco cash in sound alikeys no wonder they're saying they don't like it

It's like saying the only soul that was put out in the 60's was motown, stax and atlantic. Surely most people on this site scratch the surface just a little deeper when looking for their soul fix

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Oh shit, 4th time this week I have agreed with you, my street cred is fading, I need to get out more! :lol::lol:

Disco is just the continuing evolution of one of the greatest art forms produced in the 20th Century, which continues to be produced, albeit much less of it, to this day, Afro-American music, or Black music as it is now often referred to. It is probably one of the most exciting forms of the uptempo parts of this genre, when done correctly, and this is the important bit I suggest. It is an integral part of the soundtrack of our dance culture that America has so thankfully provided us. As usual on here people throw the John Travolta type comparison on which shows their ignorance of the genre (unless you have JT's superb grasp of irony) and more importantly the history of the music they pretend to love. I despair more and more on here when it is fairly obvious many do not have a clue what soul is or its evolution

2 quotes this week - all modern is not soul, its crud, both meant to be funny no doubt, but in reality their poor attempt at humour is just highlighting their ridiculous poor grasp of soul music.

I agree with Pete S, I do not think you should like all forms of NS and its descendants, saying as Pete does its not for him due to the differing styles is fair enough, but to dismiss it as part of the Soul family as many others do is frankly ridiculous. Either learn a little more about our music or STF up. Please.

Yes I have a raging hangover, but also just getting fed up at the way the majority on here want to take any connection with real soul music out of the Northern scene, its time for fightback and the beauty of real soul, which obviously many on here do not get but will not admit, should be celebrated not hidden due to comments like it was made on 01/01/70 so its not soul.

Off for another gin.

Jock O'Connor

Love your posts Jock..........they must take a while (especially with a hangover), but they are always worth it mate!

Absoultely spot on...........give that man another Resolve!! :(:D

Cheers,

Mark R

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Erm, i quite like 'Rasputin' by Boney M, tis a Disco classic imo & i like the whole of the Saturday Night Fever album.

In fact i prefer them to say 'Heaven in the afternoon' & 'Ordinary Joe' & other dull Modern Soul plodders, does this make me an Unsoulful tw*t?

Simon :lol:

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Erm, i quite like 'Rasputin' by Boney M, tis a Disco classic imo & i like the whole of the Saturday Night Fever album.

In fact i prefer them to say 'Heaven in the afternoon' & 'Ordinary Joe' & other dull Modern Soul plodders, does this make me an Unsoulful tw*t?

Simon :lol:

Dont tell anyone ..I quite like Ma Baker or is it Barker :lol:

Bazza

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Erm, i quite like 'Rasputin' by Boney M, tis a Disco classic imo & i like the whole of the Saturday Night Fever album.

In fact i prefer them to say 'Heaven in the afternoon' & 'Ordinary Joe' & other dull Modern Soul plodders, does this make me an Unsoulful tw*t?

Simon :(

Yes :lol:

No of course not, but Boney M shout.gif surely not :lol:

IMHO Tavares is good disco and most people wouldn't take the piss if out of Saturday Night Fever soundtrack at all if it wasn't for the association with The Bee Gees who put out bad disco soundalikeys as previously mentioned

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and i'm going to meet boney m soon! want me to get an autograph on your copy of rasputin simon? :lol:

agree about sat night fever soundtrack.

some of my fave disco associated stuff:

young hearts run free - candi staton

disco inferno - the trammps

aint no mountain high enough - inner life

saturday - norma jean

love sensation - loleatta holloway

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I think first and foremost that just about every one would agree that as soon as you give music a label or try to catalogue or define into genres the trouble starts.

Disco is a dirty word because if you compare the music and more importantly the "Disco" fans they appear as shallow and phoney compared to the emotive connection between Northernsoul and the Soulies.

When ever Northernsoul is described, references are always made to the feelings of joy and passion, making our soulful experiences almost unique compared to other genre fans.

I am yet to hear of any "Disco" fans being driven to tears or having to stop driving and pull over after being over whelmed by a black singer tearing their heart out?

Disco isn't a dirty word, crevice is a dirty word, Disco is just a week word, a disposable, throw away thing like a Rubic cube, a Hula Hoop, a Slinky, Deely Bobbers and the Smurf Dance.

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I think first and foremost that just about every one would agree that as soon as you give music a label or try to catalogue or define into genres the trouble starts.

Disco is a dirty word because if you compare the music and more importantly the "Disco" fans they appear as shallow and phoney compared to the emotive connection between Northernsoul and the Soulies.

When ever Northernsoul is described, references are always made to the feelings of joy and passion, making our soulful experiences almost unique compared to other genre fans.

I am yet to hear of any "Disco" fans being driven to tears or having to stop driving and pull over after being over whelmed by a black singer tearing their heart out?

Disco isn't a dirty word, crevice is a dirty word, Disco is just a week word, a disposable, throw away thing like a Rubic cube, a Hula Hoop, a Slinky, Deely Bobbers and the Smurf Dance.

Absolutely first class post :lol::lol:

Look forward to meetin you in Blackpool next month

Helen

XXXX

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i think people who are into "scenes" often feel that about their own scenes because they know them so well ....... and sometimes find it easy to dismiss other scenes/genres because they don't.

Disco is a dirty word because if you compare the music and more importantly the "Disco" fans they appear as shallow and phoney compared to the emotive connection between Northernsoul and the Soulies.

When ever Northernsoul is described, references are always made to the feelings of joy and passion, making our soulful experiences almost unique compared to other genre fans.

I am yet to hear of any "Disco" fans being driven to tears or having to stop driving and pull over after being over whelmed by a black singer tearing their heart out?

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I can dismiss the Disco scene because it is dismissible, I don't make the rules. Sorry

She is D desirable

She is I irresistible

She is S super sexy

She is C such a cute

She is O oh, oh, oh

D.I.S.C.O.

She is disco

It don't get much better than this....................................

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..ive heard you play them out at rsg

Not me kiddah, you refer to a different Mr Byrne :lol:

I've just put Curtis HCITH on, My non souling Mrs is loving the disco groove and I'm stepping out with my baby :lol:

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Just sorting my tunes out for tonight................

First 10 off the top of the pile (honest!).........

Stevie Wonder - Another Star

Gladys Knight - Bourgie, Bourgie

Sister Sledge - Thinking Of You

Odessey - Native new Yorker

Taste Of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie

Gayle Adams - Plain Out Of Luck

Originals - Down To Love Town

TS Monk - Candidate For Love

Evelyn Champagne King - Shame

Donna Summer - Heaven Know

You're all very welcome to come along :lol: .

(Moldie, usual place, usual time. See you there. Same deal...knock 3 times and ask for Fifi. Oh and NO roller skates this week)

OMG i have this on original 12inch

I must confess to lovin this choon reminds me of my youth.

I will have to wear a horse hair shirt and whip myself every day now to purge myself of this evil!!!!

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Erm, i quite like 'Rasputin' by Boney M, tis a Disco classic imo & i like the whole of the Saturday Night Fever album.

In fact i prefer them to say 'Heaven in the afternoon' & 'Ordinary Joe' & other dull Modern Soul plodders, does this make me an Unsoulful tw*t?

Simon :lol:

not at all simon..you make yourself an unsoulful tw*t

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OMG i have this on original 12inch

I must confess to lovin this choon reminds me of my youth....didnt realise it was that old helen :lol:

I will have to wear a horse hair shirt and whip myself every day now to purge myself of this evil!!!!

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I can dismiss the Disco scene because it is dismissible, I don't make the rules. Sorry

She is D desirable

She is I irresistible

She is S super sexy

She is C such a cute

She is O oh, oh, oh

D.I.S.C.O.

She is disco

It don't get much better than this....................................

What Disco Scene? You mean the fashion from around 1976? It might still be going in Imber but in the real world things have moved on. This thread is about whether any disco music is good isn't it? You've just twisted to read that the plebby club scene at the time was naff - which to us it was of course.

I agree Ottowan is a pile of sh*te but are you really unable to diferentiate that sort of twaddle from the likes of Earth Wind & Fire or Tower of Power? Wax build up I reckon.

Tried to google those rules you mention about disco records being all dismissible but can't find 'em. Mind you I can't find the bit about Imber Boy being the authorititive figure on all that's great about contemporary popular music either. links please! :lol:

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I rest my case your honour!

Unbelievable, why dont you write a thesis on why Afro-American culture stopped in 1969 because someone from Wales didnt like how the music changed.

FFS David Irving has been jailed for less scurrilous points of view.

If what you are saying is you dont like the changes fine, but stop trying to rewrite f*****g history. What next, Barbara Mills for first Black American president.

I need a lie down

:lol::lol::(

Good post.

I daren't even whisper the word deep soul or the die hard talc sprinklers on here will run for the hills.

What winds me up is that disco is used as a derogatory term to describe something they dont like or have a passion for.

I tend to find that pure 60s fans tend to be the most dismissive of any other genres of soul.

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Godzilla the original post on this thread reads: "Can't help noticing on this forum that 'disco' is a dirty word for some people! Why is that? What is it about 'disco' or some people's perceptions of 'disco' that winds people up?"

And not as you say "whether any disco music is good or not"

Of course there are literally dozens of good Disco records, I was not trying to discredit you, you rock dude!

I also agree Ottowan is a pile of sh*te but are you suggesting that I can not really differentiate between likes of Earth Wind & Fire or Tower of Power? Well I can so there!

You need to realise who I am on this forum young fellar me lad, I was doing it hard corps at Imber when the likes of you where doing the Disco Duck and The Frugg and as far as the links you need try here: https://www.tafsc.com/IMBERBOY%20IS%20THE%20AUTHORITIVE%20FIGURE.htm

There is only one real northernsoul expert on this list and that's me!!

Well that's not true really, there are three others who decide what is good and what is shat. Godzilla, don't listen to your uncle Simon coz I know nothing except two things and that is every one has an opinion on this forum and disco is shat.

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Can't help noticing on this forum that 'disco' is a dirty word for some people! Why is that? What is it about 'disco' or some people's perceptions of 'disco' that winds people up?

Discuss!

Steve.

Really interesting this because this morning when I was updating my Blog I had typed in the word `disco` as the local venue where I received my induction(!) into northern/soul but I took the word out as I didn`t want to give the `wrong` impression. What a sad conformist I feel that has revealed me to be. Perhaps I do care more about what impression I give others than I realised. I realise that the word `disco` has many conotations and that this thread (Even though I own up to not reading each post) will inevitably dwell on the`disco` style of music but my experience just shows how sensitive we can be to have even owned up to attending one, even though surely, it was meant as a generic term in the good old days??

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Of course there are literally dozens of good Disco records, I was not trying to discredit you, you rock dude!

:ohmy: Rock Dude - That's fightin' talk!

You need to realise who I am on this forum young fellar me lad, I was doing it hard corps at Imber when the likes of you where doing the Disco Duck and The Frugg and as far as the links you need try here: https://www.tafsc.com/IMBERBOY%20IS%20THE%20AUTHORITIVE%20FIGURE.htm

There is only one real northernsoul expert on this list and that's me!!

How could I miss that???

Fair call indeed and I bow to your superior knowledge. I also see you have now learned how to diguise the fact that you cut and paste words of more than five letters thus avoiding all that tricky spelling business.

Progress indeed. Now, how do we stand on R&B... ?

Godz

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I think first and foremost that just about every one would agree that as soon as you give music a label or try to catalogue or define into genres the trouble starts.

Disco is a dirty word because if you compare the music and more importantly the "Disco" fans they appear as shallow and phoney compared to the emotive connection between Northernsoul and the Soulies.

When ever Northernsoul is described, references are always made to the feelings of joy and passion, making our soulful experiences almost unique compared to other genre fans.

I am yet to hear of any "Disco" fans being driven to tears or having to stop driving and pull over after being over whelmed by a black singer tearing their heart out?

Disco isn't a dirty word, crevice is a dirty word, Disco is just a week word, a disposable, throw away thing like a Rubic cube, a Hula Hoop, a Slinky, Deely Bobbers and the Smurf Dance.

Luther Vandross-Never to much, has me in tears every time :ohmy:

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Just because they were issued at a time when disco was everywhere doesn't actually mean that they are disco. I mean, The Moments - Nine Times - disco? House For Sale? Thats like saying that every record released in 1957 was rock & roll

but there's many on here who refer to anything not northern, i.e. after 31st December 1969 as Disco irrespective of what it actually is. And from reading this topic I still go by my earlier post of most don't actually know what Disco actually is.

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