Was This Ever Reissued/booted ?

[Guest Bogue]

Just looks a bit new, yet the brown print has an almost faded look, not as crisp as other SUN issues i have seen.

The dead wax has just a sctatched in U 371 & what looks like two word brackets that are horizontal, as opposed to vertical.

Anyone ?

[Pete S]

Just looks a bit new, yet the brown print has an almost faded look, not as crisp as other SUN issues i have seen.

The dead wax has just a sctatched in U 371 & what looks like two word brackets that are horizontal, as opposed to vertical.

Anyone ?

Just pressed at a different plant mate - one vinyl, one styrene

[Guest Bogue]

Just pressed at a different plant mate - one vinyl, one styrene

Cheers Pete

Must admit only other ones i have come across have been styrene so perhaps the machine labeling leads to a bit of a faded appearance on the vinyl issues ?

[TOAD]

1ST ISSUE VIYNL

REISSUE STYRENE

[Guest Bogue]

If anyone wants this PM me, £20 inc P&P . Condition is M unplayed store stock.

Mods, move to sales if you like

[Guest Bogue]

1ST ISSUE VIYNL

REISSUE STYRENE

That right toad ? Shocked at that, would have thought the other way round if anything ?

[TOAD]

YEAH REMBER HAVING AN ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS BUT

JONNY MANSHIPS GUIDE SAYS THAT WHAT IT IS

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

No original-release Sun 45s of this period were originally pressed on styrene, although some from the Rock 'n' Roll era were.

That funny looking release of this, that's on a label called something like Mohamed, is often claimed to be 'first label' but 'first bootleg' would be closer to the truth, I think...

[Guest Bogue]

No original-release Sun 45s of this period were originally pressed on styrene, although some from the Rock 'n' Roll era were.

That funny looking release of this, that's on a label called something like Mohamed, is often claimed to be 'first label' but 'first bootleg' would be closer to the truth, I think...

Thanks Tony

In pressuming that Styrene was used before the introduction of vinyl (sure i'm right arn't i ? ) What sort of time period was it that record companys started to favour Vinyl over Styrene ?

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Thanks Tony

In pressuming that Styrene was used before the introduction of vinyl (sure i'm right arn't i ? ) What sort of time period was it that record companys started to favour Vinyl over Styrene ?

The first company to regularly press singles was US Columbia - who pressed them at 33, with a small centre like UK 45s had, and on an inflexible, thick flexible plastic that we might as well call 'vinyl' for want of a more accurate term.

The first 45s were pressed by RCA Victor in 1949 - and it's worth noting that the first ever R & B 45 was on RCA - on cerise vinyl, yet! - and it was Arthur Big Boy Crudup's "That's All Right Mama". RCA used to have different colour series for their 'specialist' lines - cerise for R & B, turquioise for hillbilly, blue 9and later yellow) for childrens' 45s etc.

Columbia soon discontinued their 33's and moved to a large-centre 45 that was pressed on something that was the forerunner of styrene. It was a bit more durable, but you could still 'cue burn' intros and it was a tad more breakable than RCA's vinyl was.

I don't know what the exact ratio is, but certainly based on what I've seen in decades of collecting, there were far more records pressed on vinyl in the 50s than on styrene. Styrene as we know it from soul records did not really come in as a more regularly used option (it was cheaper than vinyl) until the early 60s.

The main pressing plant in Memphis. Plastic Products on Chelsea Avenue, pressed almost all the big local labels (Stax, Sun) - except for Hi, whose 45s were pressed by their distributor, London Records and were primarily styrene pressings. Some Sun records of the Rock 'n' Roll era were manufactured on a brittle plastic that was as near to real styrene as the label ever got, but almost all of their releases were pressed at Plastic Products, on vinyl.

I have no idea where the styrene 404 - which I admit I've never seen - emanated from, but the demos of "Breaking Up Again" are not styrene, and look like the regular stock copy that's illustrated in this thread (except, of course, they are black and white rather than yellow and mustard....)

[Guest Bogue]

The first company to regularly press singles was US Columbia - who pressed them at 33, with a small centre like UK 45s had, and on an inflexible, thick flexible plastic that we might as well call 'vinyl' for want of a more accurate term.

The first 45s were pressed by RCA Victor in 1949 - and it's worth noting that the first ever R & B 45 was on RCA - on cerise vinyl, yet! - and it was Arthur Big Boy Crudup's "That's All Right Mama". RCA used to have different colour series for their 'specialist' lines - cerise for R & B, turquioise for hillbilly, blue 9and later yellow) for childrens' 45s etc.

Columbia soon discontinued their 33's and moved to a large-centre 45 that was pressed on something that was the forerunner of styrene. It was a bit more durable, but you could still 'cue burn' intros and it was a tad more breakable than RCA's vinyl was.

I don't know what the exact ratio is, but certainly based on what I've seen in decades of collecting, there were far more records pressed on vinyl in the 50s than on styrene. Styrene as we know it from soul records did not really come in as a more regularly used option (it was cheaper than vinyl) until the early 60s.

The main pressing plant in Memphis. Plastic Products on Chelsea Avenue, pressed almost all the big local labels (Stax, Sun) - except for Hi, whose 45s were pressed by their distributor, London Records and were primarily styrene pressings. Some Sun records of the Rock 'n' Roll era were manufactured on a brittle plastic that was as near to real styrene as the label ever got, but almost all of their releases were pressed at Plastic Products, on vinyl.

I have no idea where the styrene 404 - which I admit I've never seen - emanated from, but the demos of "Breaking Up Again" are not styrene, and look like the regular stock copy that's illustrated in this thread (except, of course, they are black and white rather than yellow and mustard....)

Like this little vinyl lovely. Bought the two as a pair & kept this one for myself.

Great piece that Tony

Never really thought about it that much, but i always summised that Styrene was a forerunner of Vinyl for some reason ? Probably because it's inferior, & so naturally thought that technology usually moves forward rather than backwards.

A rather crap deduction really if i think of the amount of earlier stuff i have on vinyl

Thanks again Tony

[Guest Stuart T]

Thanks again Tony

Thanks to you too, I've been looking at my copy wondering if it is pukka and glad to get it confirmed