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Truth - Exderin Headache / Come Back Home (Sounds Of Cleveland)

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AWESOME 45 - Any more on the label? Never seen anything else. Also Devaki - Take it its the same group - See the Dunn & Bruce Street 45s - Again - Anymore releases?

Thanks in advance

Rich

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Truth - Exderin Headache / Come Back Home (Sounds Of Cleveland)

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AWESOME 45 - Any more on the label? Never seen anything else. Also Devaki - Take it its the same group - See the Dunn & Bruce Street 45s - Again - Anymore releases?

Thanks in advance

Rich

Coming Home / Touch Me on Devaki.....superb 45, knocks the socks off other 45s that are 10 x the price! Dunn & Bruce Street on Devaki also have The Moment Of Truth which again is superb.

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Truth - Exderin Headache / Come Back Home (Sounds Of Cleveland)

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AWESOME 45 - Any more on the label? Never seen anything else. Also Devaki - Take it its the same group - See the Dunn & Bruce Street 45s - Again - Anymore releases?

Thanks in advance

Rich

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Ive got Truth "touch me" and an lp somewhere

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Had multiples of the Truth - Coming Home & Dunn Bruce Street - The Moment Of Truth 45s and recommended them to pretty much everyone that I knew! Two of my fave tracks and still (for now??) fairly easy to find.

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Curiously the two involved on Devaki are related to The O'Jays. The creator (and owner?) was an ex-O'Jays (Bill Isles or Bobby Massey) and Dunn Pearson have been collaborting with The O'Jays in their Emi recordings. All is a Cleveland people "affair"...

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The Truth 45 is brilliant, haven't heard any others on the label.

(If anyone needs a copy of the Truth 45 I've still got three copys listed on Gemm :lol: )

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The Truth 45 is brilliant, haven't heard any others on the label.

(If anyone needs a copy of the Truth 45 I've still got three copys listed on Gemm :lol: )

Are all copies of "Comming Home" Demo,s as I,ve not seen an issue ?

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Are all copies of "Comming Home" Demo,s as I,ve not seen an issue ?

Mine are issues. Sky blue label with dark blue text, silver background on the main piece of the soc logo.

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Mine are issues. Sky blue label with dark blue text, silver background on the main piece of the soc logo.

I think you are on about two different 45s.

"Come Back Home" and "Coming Home" are different records.

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I think you are on about two different 45s.

"Come Back Home" and "Coming Home" are different records.

Looks like I've been caught sleeping in class again :lol:

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Cleveland act the Truth included the amazing vocals of Larry Hancock, who used to front another Cleveland group called S.O.U.L. who cut a number of funky instrumentals and some nice vocal tracks, in particular the classic soul choon "This Time Around".

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Are all copies of "Comming Home" Demo,s as I,ve not seen an issue ?

Was issued as soul45er has already mentioned flip is "Touch Me" Devaki DK 4001

Yes djmelisimo Larry Hancock lead vocalist and produced by Bobby Massey

Think Truth were a duo rather than a group as Mr Massey states in his thank you"s on the album sleeve

"(thanks) To Leo (Green) and Larry (Hancock) whos time has come, and rightfully so !

This is only thr beginning.........of TRUTH "

Devaki is the name of one of Bobby Massey"s kids

Cheers Paul


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Are all copies of "Comming Home" Demo,s as I,ve not seen an issue ?

Actually I've never seen a demo...I've got white labels on styrene but the have no mention of being demos on them and also have it on a gold coloured label on vinyl, again no mention of being a demo.

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Actually I've never seen a demo...I've got white labels on styrene but the have no mention of being demos on them and also have it on a gold coloured label on vinyl, again no mention of being a demo.

Adam.

Yep mines white label styrene soul45er.............................gold label vinyl oooh, yum! yum!

Cheers Paul

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Yep mines white label styrene soul45er.............................gold label vinyl oooh, yum! yum!

Cheers Paul

Lovely, lovely vinyl!!

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Would I be right in thinking this group 'Truth' are not the same as the group who did "What Direction" on Roulette :thumbup:

It's possible that the 'Truth' on Roulette are the group who became Moment Of Truth...(?), as M.O.T recorded for the same label prior to Salsoul.

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temptations originally did coming home. was it written by dennis edwards. its the flip side of struck by lightning

twice. ive got em but not at hand. anybody confirm

dave

Yes. Both Devaki releases mentioned and the Temptations version of "Coming Home" were widely publicised at the time of release in articles/reviews in 'Echoes ' etc., as a consequence they were widely imported. Soul Bowl also had copies of the Truth album. The Dunn & Bruce St. and Truth sides on Devaki are still certainly underated however.

(There was a thread on this theme on here a little while back)

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Truth - Exderin Headache / Come Back Home (Sounds Of Cleveland)

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AWESOME 45 - Any more on the label? Never seen anything else. Also Devaki - Take it its the same group - See the Dunn & Bruce Street 45s - Again - Anymore releases?

Thanks in advance

Rich

A great great record,

There was or is a video on you tube of these guys actually singing Come Back Home [awesome]..

Keep the faith...

TFK

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Result guys! Nice to know there are folk out there who appreciate this stuff.

Here's the Youtube link -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aup8mke5fpA

Am putting together a label discog is anyones interested. BTW on the Youtube link there's a guy who states that one of the singers is his uncle! And that they went on to become the Imperial Wonders. Interesting ...(strokes chin)

Regards,Rich

I believe records by The Imperial Wonders were actually around before Truth emerged on Devaki though.

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Result guys! Nice to know there are folk out there who appreciate this stuff.

Here's the Youtube link -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aup8mke5fpA

Am putting together a label discog is anyones interested. BTW on the Youtube link there's a guy who states that one of the singers is his uncle! And that they went on to become the Imperial Wonders. Interesting ...(strokes chin)

Regards,Rich

hiya Rich.

Awesome vintage footage or what? i sent Rod Dearlove the link to this video,seem to think it was one of his faves from way back then..

Best and Keep the Faith...

Andy W... :thumbsup:

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Actually I've never seen a demo...I've got white labels on styrene but the have no mention of being demos on them and also have it on a gold coloured label on vinyl, again no mention of being a demo.

Adam.

Just had a look at my copy Deffo says Loaned for Promotion Only

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Just had a look in the "Soul Harmony Singles" book and they list 3 Truth 45s on Devaki and 1 on S.O.C

They also list the band members as;

Leo Green

Larry Hancock

Will Thomas

Leon Green

William Grover

Phil Coghill

Doris Wallace

Margaret Foxworth

No mention of any other group on Roulette :thumbsup:

Cheers Paul

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Just had a look in the "Soul Harmony Singles" book and they list 3 Truth 45s on Devaki and 1 on S.O.C

They also list the band members as;

Leo Green

Larry Hancock

Will Thomas

Leon Green

William Grover

Phil Coghill

Doris Wallace

Margaret Foxworth

No mention of any other group on Roulette :thumbsup:

Cheers Paul

Paul, Moment Of Truth had a very good single out on Roulette

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/sounds/exists...U_DON_T_SUCCEED

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/sounds/exists...title=YOUR_LOVE

maybe a mix up between Truth & Moment Of Truth?

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Paul, is that the same Helplessly as on Salsoul or different song?

Back on topic, here are all the Devaki releases can find

Devaki label

DK-4001 Truth - Coming Home/ Touch Me

DK-4002 Truth - Understanding/ See You Later

DK-4003 Truth - It's Gonna Take A Miracle/ Same

DK-4005 Dunn and Bruce Street - If You Come With Me/ The Moment Of Truth

DK-4009 Dunn and Bruce Street - Shout For Joy/ Yearnin' And Burnin

DK-1014 Dunn and Bruce Street - I Owe It To Me/Let Me Learn

Dunn and Bruce Street - Official Business LP

Truth - International Dancing LP

Are there any others? and what happened to 4004, 4006 - 4008 and 4010 - 4013 :unsure:

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Back on topic, here are all the Devaki releases can find

Devaki label

DK-4001 Truth - Coming Home/ Touch Me

DK-4002 Truth - Understanding/ See You Later

DK-4003 Truth - It's Gonna Take A Miracle/ Same

DK-4005 Dunn and Bruce Street - If You Come With Me/ The Moment Of Truth

DK-4009 Dunn and Bruce Street - Shout For Joy/ Yearnin' And Burnin

DK-1014 Dunn and Bruce Street - I Owe It To Me/Let Me Learn

Dunn and Bruce Street - Official Business LP

Truth - International Dancing LP

Are there any others? and what happened to 4004, 4006 - 4008 and 4010 - 4013 :unsure:

Some additions:

LPs:

DEVAKI 4401 - Truth - Coming Home

DEVAKI 30003 - Dunn & Bruce Street - Official business

12"s:

DEVAKI 401 - Truth - Coming Home / International Dancing

DEVAKI 426 - Bootsy Reynolds & The Reynolds Brothers - Reynolds Rap / Eenie Meenie

DEVAKI 902 (promo) - Dunn & Bruce Street - Shout For Joy / If You Come With Me

DEVAKI 902 (issue) - Dunn & Bruce Street - Shout For Joy / Yearnin' & Burnin'

There seems to be different flipsides on issue/promo copies of 902.


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Paul, is that the same Helplessly as on Salsoul or different song?

Back on topic, here are all the Devaki releases can find

Devaki label

DK-4001 Truth - Coming Home/ Touch Me

DK-4002 Truth - Understanding/ See You Later

DK-4003 Truth - It's Gonna Take A Miracle/ Same

DK-4005 Dunn and Bruce Street - If You Come With Me/ The Moment Of Truth

DK-4009 Dunn and Bruce Street - Shout For Joy/ Yearnin' And Burnin

DK-1014 Dunn and Bruce Street - I Owe It To Me/Let Me Learn

Dunn and Bruce Street - Official Business LP

Truth - International Dancing LP

Are there any others? and what happened to 4004, 4006 - 4008 and 4010 - 4013
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Far as I know the Moment Of Truth track is the same on both labels

Used to have a nice promo LP on Salsoul, think I've still got a UK Pye 45

The Truth LP on Devaki is called "Coming Home" DKH 4401

Can't help on the missing numbers tho I'll do some investigating

Cheers Paul

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im not positive but truth have an uptempo version of wade in the water

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Would I be right in thinking this group 'Truth' are not the same as the group who did "What Direction" on Roulette unsure.gif

Was this released on Roulette?? :lol: Have it on a Philly Groove 12 with "Thank you girl for hanging on" on the other side (think it's on the 45 too...?). Absolutely superb tune IMO. :yes: Don't know if it's the same group.

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Fredrik, I've got it wrong - if you have the record, I only assumed it was on Roulette as there is a group of that name on the label :yes:

Thanks for the correction, I only heard it once about 12 years or so back and have never come across it since.

As you say, whether it's the Cleveland group or not - who knows?

Can you post up a scan or the writer credits etc, there may be a clue there

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Same group John/Fredrick . Quite an obscure release too :wicked:

Yes of course it's the same :huh: (A.Boyd/Larry Hancock credits on 12)

One wonders why this one from 1981 is so hard when the Devaki stuff from 1980 (at least the lp is from that year) is easy to find... :lol:

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Yes of course it's the same :lol: (A.Boyd/Larry Hancock credits on 12)

One wonders why this one from 1981 is so hard when the Devaki stuff from 1980 (at least the lp is from that year) is easy to find... huh.gif

The 7'' is really hard well over $1000 now :thumbup:

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actually has anyone got the Philly Groove lable listing ?

Yep Simon, I've got a list of all the master recordings. PM me and I'll e-mail it over. I also have 12 albums worth of Philly Groove material plus all the instrumentals. Lots of interesting stuff on there!

Ian D

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Yep Simon, I've got a list of all the master recordings. PM me and I'll e-mail it over. I also have 12 albums worth of Philly Groove material plus all the instrumentals. Lots of interesting stuff on there!

Ian D

any acca pele ..PM'd Ian

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Paul, is that the same Helplessly as on Salsoul or different song?

Back on topic, here are all the Devaki releases can find

Devaki label

DK-4001 Truth - Coming Home/ Touch Me

DK-4002 Truth - Understanding/ See You Later

DK-4003 Truth - It's Gonna Take A Miracle/ Same

DK-4005 Dunn and Bruce Street - If You Come With Me/ The Moment Of Truth

DK-4009 Dunn and Bruce Street - Shout For Joy/ Yearnin' And Burnin

DK-1014 Dunn and Bruce Street - I Owe It To Me/Let Me Learn

Dunn and Bruce Street - Official Business LP

Truth - International Dancing LP

Are there any others? and what happened to 4004, 4006 - 4008 and 4010 - 4013 :thumbup:

My white promo of "Shout For Joy" is DK 1009.

Ian D

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