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Have been listen to a few Salsoul bits like Dreamin by Loleatta Holloway and wondered if anyone has got any suggestions for the rare and just plan good Salsoul and Gold Mind label tracks

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Moment of truth So much for love(Salsoul) and the Love Committee"tired of being your fool" on Gold Mind are favourites of mine :lol:

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Some humble suggestions, some possible candidates to the "cult cut" status from Salsoul label:

-"Janice" - Skip Mahoney & The Casuals

-"All My Life" - Eddie Holman

-"Latin Lover" - Joe Bataan

-"I Can Turn You Loose" - Anthony White

-"Gonna Give My Love Away" - Double Exposure

-"Thousand Finger Man" - Candido

-"Tales Of Two Cities" - Salsoul Orchestra

-"Sing Sing" - Gaz

....pfffff,... surely, there are a lot more that deserves it,... I'll think on it later :shades:

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Hy Baz ,long time no see,, you wanna know about salsoul,,,,

salsol was the term used by latinos for latin+soul fusion of the youg musicians

It was Joe Batan who first used it as a logo and then Label nameto represent

want more?

Ken Cayre. went after the best sesssion musisions at the time Who worke,d for??????

Mr Gamble+Mr huff. who were having union troubles at the time

the key playes to Leave pir+join salsol were Vince Montana,Norman Harris, Bunny Sigler,Ronnie Baker+Earl Young ,,,,the latter 2 are widely credited with the sound and style of aDisco Record,,,Knew id learn sumthing by reading books,,, I love the Philly+ salsoul sound,,,,you can see whare it all came from whene you listen

want more ???

a pleasure m8.........Look at the labels(i know you do) theres sometimes little bits of info not usually in books

after you know the history abit you can hear the Philly influance,

I,ll e-mail you more later Mr A

Kit

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First Choice "Cant Take It WIith you" from their "Breakaway" LP springs instantly to mind...................basically 'cos I've just got myself a copy. Heard "Fingerpoppin' Hans " play it on the Thursday in Amsterdam before the Brussels modern soul weekender and found a copy (LP) for ten "Timi Euros" on the Sunday in Brussels.......................lifes good like that sometimes.

Great thread :shades: loads of Salsoul/Gold mind stuff to go at if you ask me

Cheers Paul

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SALSOUL GREAT LOGO CHECK OUT DOUBLE EXPOSURE PICK ME,REALLY SOULFUL SEVENTIES,IT WOULD BE GOOD IF SOMEONE POSTED THE HISTORY OF THE LOGO IF POSSIBLE,WOULD BE GOOD READING IMHO WASNT THERE DEFINITE LINKS TO THE NEW YORK DISCO SCENE ETC/.

BAZ A

Hi Baz I'm sure there must be somethig like a discog on that "Last Night A DJ Saved My Life" book/website ?

Thought you'd be on this thread mate
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Love Committee's "Law And Order" LP is a good place to start for any Salsoul/Goldmine newbys/starters

Cheers Paul

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Hy Baz ,long time no see,, you wanna know about salsoul,,,,

salsol was the term used by latinos for latin+soul fusion of the youg musicians

It was Joe Batan who first used it as a logo and then Label nameto represent

want more?

Ken Cayre. went after the best sesssion musisions at the time Who worke,d for??????

Mr Gamble+Mr huff. who were having union troubles at the time

the key playes to Leave pir+join salsol were Vince Montana,Norman Harris, Bunny Sigler,Ronnie Baker+Earl Young ,,,,the latter 2 are widely credited with the sound and style of aDisco Record,,,Knew id learn sumthing by reading books,,, I love the Philly+ salsoul sound,,,,you can see whare it all came from whene you listen

want more ???

a pleasure m8.........Look at the labels(i know you do) theres sometimes little bits of info not usually in books

after you know the history abit you can hear the Philly influance,

I,ll e-mail you more later Mr A

Kit

WONDERFUL STUFF LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PM VINCE MONTANA AND JOE BATTAN TWO VERY INFLUENTIAL FIGURES INDEED.

BAZ A

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Hi Baz I'm sure there must be somethig like a discog on that "Last Night A DJ Saved My Life" book/website ?

Thought you'd be on this thread mate
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Love Committee's "Law And Order" LP is a good place to start for any Salsoul/Goldmine newbys/starters

Cheers Paul

YEP YOUR RIGHT PAUL JUST GOT THE DISCOG,YOU DONT KNOW THE DOUBLE EXPOSURE LINE UP DO YOU MATE?

BAZ A

PS JUST SPUN THIS COULD BE A NIGHT TO REMEMBER REALLY FORGOT HOW GOOD A TUNE THIS IS.

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Label for proper disco music, great label, some bad stuff but far outweighed by the good.

As I said proper disco music (thats meant as a compliment) but also many proto house records, just a milestone in a black music history (sometimes known as soul :shades: )

Some did cross over though to the more progressive rare soul floors, Leroy Burgess Heartbreaker from Mr Buchanan, Janice etc.

As someone else said both sides of Eddie Holman TWBANTR sound great now.

Off to dig out some Salsoul stuff and put my first sound clips up!

Disco Bunny Jock

PS Phil we obviously posted at same time re LB but great shout about Logg I Know That You Will, possibly the greatest on the label and heard on a proper sound system it just about blew my heart out, Proper dancing music!!

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Was thinking about this the other day - cracking bass line and rhythm, we used to play it a lot in Tonbridge/ Tun Wells. :shades:

I might have heard you play it!!! How long ago and where abouts?

Cheers Tony.

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IMHO, probably the most "soulful" track I have heard on Salsoul label is the last side B track on "Let It Snow" album (1980) by Bunny Sigler: «Slowdown». This album is very varied and included a Marvin Gaye's clon track ("The First Time I Saw Your Face") and deliciously crazy nimbers ("disco-psychedelic") as "Super-Duper-Man". As deliciously crazy is also the comments in the back cover by Bunny himself: "If You Don't Have Nothing Intersting To Say... Say Goodbay 70's, Hello 80's" :shades::lol::P

Another treasure of mine (also original, printed in USA) is the album "Magic Journey" by The Salsoul Orchestra". The cover of EW & F "Getaway" got trumpet riffs and master Michael Pedicin Jr alto sax notes that made this instrumental one of my all time favorites.

Two curiousitys: recently I noticed that Leroy burgess and Logg are the same; and, about Double Exposure, during the years when The Trammps recorded at Phillysound Works label, Jimmy Williams replaced Jimmy Ellis. They recorded recently with Vincent Montana (a record called something like "That's Love Does" that I hearded at a website by a spanish DJ).

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Late 70s, Kelsey Arms, Sherwood community hall, Showfields Community Centre, Tonbridge sea scouts hall, The Castle places like that. Steve

Yep, would have been there.Was up the Kelsey Arms for a Northern night a couple of weeks ago.Did you play the Barn ,Beacon or the Court (Carriages)?

Sorry have deviated from the post subject!

Cheers Tony.

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Hy Baz ,long time no see,, you wanna know about salsoul,,,,

salsol was the term used by latinos for latin+soul fusion of the youg musicians

It was Joe Batan who first used it as a logo and then Label nameto represent

want more?

Ken Cayre. went after the best sesssion musisions at the time Who worke,d for??????

Mr Gamble+Mr huff. who were having union troubles at the time

the key playes to Leave pir+join salsol were Vince Montana,Norman Harris, Bunny Sigler,Ronnie Baker+Earl Young ,,,,the latter 2 are widely credited with the sound and style of aDisco Record,,,Knew id learn sumthing by reading books,,, I love the Philly+ salsoul sound,,,,you can see whare it all came from whene you listen

want more ???

a pleasure m8.........Look at the labels(i know you do) theres sometimes little bits of info not usually in books

after you know the history abit you can hear the Philly influance,

I,ll e-mail you more later Mr A

Kit

WONDERFUL STUFF LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PM VINCE MONTANA AND JOE BATTAN TWO VERY INFLUENTIAL FIGURES INDEED.

BAZ A

There is a nice article in the WAX POETICS Magazine Nr.19 about Joe Bataan called "Boogaloo Bad Boy" with some information about Fania and Salsoul Records. Very interessting.

BTW:

Joe Bataan is playing here in Hamburg in the Mandarin Casino next Sunday. Has anybody an idea what can be expected. Will he play some of his Soul songs or Latin only?

Tolbert

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Moment of truth So much for love(Salsoul) and the Love Committee"tired of being your fool" on Gold Mind are favourites of mine :boxing:

Love Committee"tired of being your fool" on UK release ???

I've just found this 45 in old stock, a single sided UK TEST PRESS with 4 prong small hole center, handwritten credits SPSR 427 stamped in the deadwax.

Can't find any reference to a UK release, anyone know? It is a killer 70s tune!!

Value would drastically change if it was TEST PRESS only. Can anyone disappoint me and come up with the UK label it was released on.

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just dug out hold your horses ,who remembers that ,broke the casino as well 1979 :boxing:

BAZ A

I remember buying that on a 12 inch release , did it ever come out on a 7 inch ?

Steve B

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Yep, would have been there.Was up the Kelsey Arms for a Northern night a couple of weeks ago.Did you play the Barn ,Beacon or the Court (Carriages)?

Sorry have deviated from the post subject!

Cheers Tony.

Tony,

Didn't play there, though went religiously as a punter to the Lizzy Barn, Court school of dancing and the Beacon (Beacon less so - it was further to go and never was sure about "Peters Hi Fi").

My weekdays were thus:

Monday - Barn (Keith seal)

Tuesday - Court

Wed - night in

Thursday - Barn (though the Court ran for a while as well in competition) (Jon Vine)

Friday-Beacon or Tennis Club

Those were the days :huh:

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Apart from those already mentioned....

Instant Funk's excellent "Crying" always used to do it for me!

Uptempo dancer with superb, Soulful, vocals.

One to watch out for.

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Also like their "Can you see where I'm coming from", think the lp is called "The funk is on".

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In Record Collector they said £300 as it was Canadian only issue on 12", otherwise Lp only

To be fair, the Candido LP is only just about an LP, it's only got four tracks on it!

Loleatta Holloway "catch me on the rebound" on a 12" is superb.

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To be fair, the Candido LP is only just about an LP, it's only got four tracks on it!

Loleatta Holloway "catch me on the rebound" on a 12" is superb.

These are the two track-lists from the two Candido's Salsoul LP's, both with only 4 tracks on it:

LP "Dancin' & Prancin'"

01-"Dancin' & Prancin'"

02-"Jingo"

03-"Thowsand Finger Man"

04-"Rock & Shuffle (Ah-Ha)"

LP "Candi's Funk"

01-"Candi's Funk"

02-"Do You Wanna Dance"

03-"Samba Funk"

04-"Super City"

There is some comments about the "departure" of some MFSB members to The Salsoul Orchestra and this is a complex question. I beleive both recorded at Sigma Sound Studios and there was Don Renaldo and his strings appearing on PIR artists recordings, Salsoul acts and, of course, countless outside productions as also on Salsoul label under the name of "Salsoul Strings". The same with The Sweethearts Of Sigma (Barbara, Carla & Evette). Norman Harris recorded "Harris Machine" PIR album in 1980 and Vincent Montana recorded his first singles ("Tangerine") for Salsoul around late 1975 and his vivraphone appears on the 1977 album "Summertime" by MFSB...

About Joe Bataan, the latest thing by him I have is the CD "Call My Name" (by spanish label Vampisoul, 2005). Sounds in some tracks, like the Gil Scott-Heron from "The Bottle", very fresh and simultaneously, very 70's. Some tracks are more fusion and some other more latin (not strictly salsa or boogaloo)... He performed live in the "F²rum de les Cultures" in Barcelona featuring Marc Ribot. Recently I acquired the canadian re-edition of Salsoul album "Mestizo".

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Love Committee"tired of being your fool" on UK release ???

I've just found this 45 in old stock, a single sided UK TEST PRESS with 4 prong small hole center, handwritten credits SPSR 427 stamped in the deadwax.

Can't find any reference to a UK release, anyone know? It is a killer 70s tune!!

Value would drastically change if it was TEST PRESS only. Can anyone disappoint me and come up with the UK label it was released on.

Can anyone shed any light of this 45 test press, did it get UK release as a 7"? Anybody seen it before as a UK test press. Anyone?

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Tony,

Didn't play there, though went religiously as a punter to the Lizzy Barn, Court school of dancing and the Beacon (Beacon less so - it was further to go and never was sure about "Peters Hi Fi").

My weekdays were thus:

Monday - Barn (Keith seal)

Tuesday - Court

Wed - night in

Thursday - Barn (though the Court ran for a while as well in competition) (Jon Vine)

Friday-Beacon or Tennis Club

Those were the days :rolleyes:

Yep ,exactly the same mate.

Were you suspicious when Davinchi's opened and the Court suddenly burned down!!!!!

Another one on Salsoul Nice'n' Nasty-Salsoul Orchestra.

CheersTony.

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Hey Tony, great to see someone who went to the same clubs on here... :ohmy:

There was a good scene music wise going on in Tun/Wells for a while.You obviously used to frequent Jon Vines Impulse record shop.I used to listen to Robbie Vincent's Jazz Funk 40 then head off to Impulse to buy the latest American Import that I had just heard.

I guess we probably know alot of the same people from those days.

Cheers Tony.

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There was a good scene music wise going on in Tun/Wells for a while.You obviously used to frequent Jon Vines Impulse record shop.I used to listen to Robbie Vincent's Jazz Funk 40 then head off to Impulse to buy the latest American Import that I had just heard.

I guess we probably know alot of the same people from those days.

Cheers Tony.

Yup Impulse in the High Street was good, but as I worked in London I also got to go to some of the shops there that had more choice on the import front. I do remember getting "Brazilian Love affair" LP out of there though. Jon's shop was as you know quite small and always full of disco equipment as well :D

Steve

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