First Generation - Give Him Up - High Note

[Pete S]

Managed to get another copy of this beauty, condition is EX with a couple of little marks and one or two small pops, nice clean labels, very tough to get reggae label items in this nick and of course this is a cracking SOUL track. Offers over £50. NOW SOLD

Edited August 21, 2007 by Pete S

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

As good as the Smokey Robinson and the Miracles original IMO!

[Pete S]

As good as the Smokey Robinson and the Miracles original IMO!

I had no idea it was a cover! Whats the original called? (Same?)

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

I had no idea it was a cover! Whats the original called? (Same?)

Yes, the same, except it's "Give Her Up" of course, being sung by Smokey rather than Judy Mowatt - it's the other side of "Special Occasion"...

[Pete S]

Yes, the same, except it's "Give Her Up" of course, being sung by Smokey rather than Judy Mowatt - it's the other side of "Special Occasion"...

I also didn't know that was Judy Mowatt singing please keep up my lessons Tone!

Also I guess you know this but the other side - Dave Barker - She Want It - also came out on Escort in a kind of weird version where he sounds like he's djing over another version of the same track, it's a right mess

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

I also didn't know that was Judy Mowatt singing please keep up my lessons Tone!

Also I guess you know this but the other side - Dave Barker - She Want It - also came out on Escort in a kind of weird version where he sounds like he's djing over another version of the same track, it's a right mess

I did know about the Dave Barker Escort release, but I've never actually heard a copy - or gone out of my way to hear a copy - as I naturally assumed that Pama had just bootlegged it off the UK High Note pressing...

I'm pretty sure that, on the Ja. copy of "Give Him Up", Judy Mowatt is credited just as 'Julian', like she is on her other Ja. Gay Feet releases. Her full name is Julianne Mowatt - obviously the Gay Feet typesetter didn't have the extra 'n' and 'e'

[Pete S]

I did know about the Dave Barker Escort release, but I've never actually heard a copy - or gone out of my way to hear a copy - as I naturally assumed that Pama had just bootlegged it off the UK High Note pressing...

I'm pretty sure that, on the Ja. copy of "Give Him Up", Judy Mowatt is credited just as 'Julian', like she is on her other Ja. Gay Feet releases. Her full name is Julianne Mowatt - obviously the Gay Feet typesetter didn't have the extra 'n' and 'e'

No it's different mate, it's like he did one take, then they said do another, but it didn't wipe of the first one, really bizarre...I'll see if I can find it, I had it a while back so probably recorded it

[Sebastian]

Might as well ask this while I've got both of you here... I've wanted to find out one thing for years and this talk about Dave Barker got me thinking about it again... I've got a tune on an old tape credited to Dave Barker and the title is "I Got To Get Away", it consists of him DJing over a rather fine tune. It's the tune in the background I want to find out what it is, the lyrics to the tune in the background starts off with "there's a man that lives next door, in my neighbourhood, in my neighbourhood, he get's me down". It's probably some well known tune, but my rocksteady knowledge isn't what it could be so... If anyone of you could help me out here I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Edited August 21, 2007 by Sebastian

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Might as well ask this while I've got both of you here... I've wanted to find out one thing for years and this talk about Dave Barker got me thinking about it again... I've got a tune on an old tape credited to Dave Barker and the title is "I Got To Get Away", it consists of him DJing over a rather fine tune. It's the tune in the background I want to find out what it is, the lyrics to the tune in the background starts off with "there's a man that lives next door, in my neighbourhood, in my neighbourhood, he get's me down". It's probably some well known tune, but my rocksteady knowledge isn't what it could be so... If anyone of you could help me out here I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

"Got To Get Away" by the Paragons, on the flip of their wonderful version of (The Four Tops) "Left With A Broken Heart", from late 1968.

There are two other great DJ pieces to this rhythm:

Noisy Place - I Roy (Andy's - 1972)

Poison Flour - Dr. Alimantado (Ital - 1975)

The good doctor has Horace Andy doing the vocal interjections, but I don't think that there's a full version of Horace singing the song, on the original rhythm, on anything.

The Paragons original is on a 2CD set that I recently had the pleasure of annotating from Trojan, 'On The Beach'.

[Sebastian]

"Got To Get Away" by the Paragons, on the flip of their wonderful version of (The Four Tops) "Left With A Broken Heart", from late 1968.

SUPERB! Thanks for the info, Tony!

Do you perhaps also know the original Jamaican or UK label release for Boris Gardiner's "I'm Alone"?

[Paul McKay]

Whilst on the topic of UK reggae records, I heard a 45 by Time last week on Tropic records (or something like that). The flipside was a reasonable sweet soul group type sound. Any idea where I could get one?

[Funky Si]

See here (with the Dave Barker track on the other side): https://www.juno.co.uk/products/223926-01.htm

Sampled on the Massive Attack song of the same name on Mezzanine (includes Horace Andy vocals)

Edited August 21, 2007 by Funky Si

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

See here (with the Dave Barker track on the other side): https://www.juno.co.uk/products/223926-01.htm

This is the same recording as 'Got To Get Away', the song has become better known by this alternate title in recent years because Dennis Brown had a big late 70s hit on Joe Gibbs Record Globe with a remake that he himself titled 'Man Next Door'...

Sorry, Sebastian, I don't have details of either label for Boris but I can probably find out for you without too much difficulty...

The Time single on Tropical Sound Tracs is produced by the great Bob Andy and is indeed excellent sweet soul. It has no value at all in the reggae market, of course, in fact I'm betting most reggae dealers wouldn't even pick up spares if they saw them....

[Pete S]

This is the same recording as 'Got To Get Away', the song has become better known by this alternate title in recent years because Dennis Brown had a big late 70s hit on Joe Gibbs Record Globe with a remake that he himself titled 'Man Next Door'...

The Slits did a tremendous version of Man Next Door too

[Pete S]

"Got To Get Away" by the Paragons, on the flip of their wonderful version of (The Four Tops) "Left With A Broken Heart", from late 1968.

I bid £110 on that last year and got outbid!

[Sebastian]

See here (with the Dave Barker track on the other side): https://www.juno.co.uk/products/223926-01.htm

Thanks for the info, but would prefer an original jamaican copy or the UK Duke issue. Anyone got a copy for sale?

That Boris Gardiner track is a real fave of mine and I'd like to track down the 45 and knowing the label would make it easier, so if it's not too much trouble for you Tony... I'd really appreciate it!

[Paul McKay]

The Time single on Tropical Sound Tracs is produced by the great Bob Andy and is indeed excellent sweet soul. It has no value at all in the reggae market, of course, in fact I'm betting most reggae dealers wouldn't even pick up spares if they saw them....

Thanks Tony!

[Soul-slider]

"Got To Get Away" by the Paragons, on the flip of their wonderful version of (The Four Tops) "Left With A Broken Heart", from late 1968.

There are two other great DJ pieces to this rhythm:

Noisy Place - I Roy (Andy's - 1972)

Poison Flour - Dr. Alimantado (Ital - 1975)

The good doctor has Horace Andy doing the vocal interjections, but I don't think that there's a full version of Horace singing the song, on the original rhythm, on anything.

The Paragons original is on a 2CD set that I recently had the pleasure of annotating from Trojan, 'On The Beach'.

Garnett Mimms did the original ; Quiet Place

There's also a version by Prince Buster on Blue Beat

[Pete S]

Garnett Mimms did the original ; Quiet Place

There's also a version by Prince Buster on Blue Beat

Thats a different song entirely (aka Johnny Dollar)

[Soul-slider]

Thats a different song entirely (aka Johnny Dollar)

That's the one Pete! I'm sure it's similar though?

[Pete S]

That's the one Pete! I'm sure it's similar though?

Well it is sort of, it's the exact same subject matter, but they are too different songs (Busters version of johnny dollar is great I think)

[Soul-slider]

Well it is sort of, it's the exact same subject matter, but they are too different songs (Busters version of johnny dollar is great I think)

Bet Garnett Mimms aint ever heard any of these listed on here!!!!

Edited August 22, 2007 by Soul-Slider

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Thats a different song entirely (aka Johnny Dollar)

...precisely why I didn't mention it myself...

Besides the Buster, there's a nice 1969 version of "A Quiet Place" on Coxsone by Winston Francis. Garnet Mimms is, of course, unbeatable on this one though...