Paul-s Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Having been on this scene for nearay 30 years, I would just like to see what peoples opinions are on dj's and dancing. I myself have often heard tunes and thought 'f--k me' how do you dance to that. Then when i've looked to see who's playing it, it's a non-dancing dj. I, personally, only play tunes that inspire ME to dance and hope that others feel the same way! But, I often look up at the decks to see one or, at some venues, ten! people standing around looking at the record admiringly....BUT it does'nt seem to infiltrate their bodies! Im not saying its a pre-requisite of dj'ing, but its an interesting point!
Chris L Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Having been on this scene for nearay 30 years, I would just like to see what peoples opinions are on dj's and dancing. I myself have often heard tunes and thought 'f--k me' how do you dance to that. Then when i've looked to see who's playing it, it's a non-dancing dj. I, personally, only play tunes that inspire ME to dance and hope that others feel the same way! But, I often look up at the decks to see one or, at some venues, ten! people standing around looking at the record admiringly....BUT it does'nt seem to infiltrate their bodies! Im not saying its a pre-requisite of dj'ing, but its an interesting point! Good point, if you go to Stoke you'll see Sean Chapman actually dancing to his own records (so do the rest of the punters BTW). I have been to some NS venues (especially in the London area) where DJ's had their backs to the dancefloor while they trawled thru their ever so rare and valuable records to play. I guess it's not really that important if the DJ dances, the real issue is, are the money paying punters out on the floor enjoying themselves? Chris L
Toodarnsoulful Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 I have been known in the past to leave the decks and scoot to dancefloor as i just couldnt stop myself dancing to the track... ..bit scary when you realise the track is coming to an end and your fleasing back to the decks through your records and tryin to line one up before the last one ends... Paul if your lookin tips to dance to any particular tracks just give me a pM! L
Toodarnsoulful Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 I agree, northern is about dancing and the music running through your body, it means you feel the soul. If you don't feel the soul, then its not very soulful is it?? Whether its uptempo, midtempo or beat ballad or tight, lose or messy, the arrangement and rythym has to move you. So if it doesn't, does that mean the disc isn't northern or is the ear just not getting it? I think conessouir types do generally have a well developed ear for northern but as you say, some discs just leave me cold at times! Goes onto another point.. if you got soul, then whether it be a known tune or an unknown tune, shouldn't really make a difference, thats if you get it, that is. Right? Guess I better run for the hills now and hide!!! Yep i agree, i can listen (prefer to listen) to unknown tunes to myself all night as long as there making me hit the dancefloor...no better feelin...
Chalky Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 whether a DJ dances or not shouldn't matter as long as the DJ is doing the business.
Toodarnsoulful Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 whether a DJ dances or not shouldn't matter as long as the DJ is doing the business. True, as long as she/he is playing top tunes and the floor is full then all is good... though it may or may not be the case that a dj who likes to dance can get the dancers on the floor and keep them there as they themselves know what they would love to hear when out on the floor so are in a better position to guage which tunes to play next etc........... just a thought...
Chalky Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 True, as long as she/he is playing top tunes and the floor is full then all is good... though it may or may not be the case that a dj who likes to dance can get the dancers on the floor and keep them there as they themselves know what they would love to hear when out on the floor so are in a better position to guage which tunes to play next etc........... just a thought... if you can't gauge what the dancers want and adjust your set accordingly then you shouldn't be djing. Thats not to say you have to take the "safe" option either as too many IMHO so called DJ's seem to do.
Toodarnsoulful Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 if you can't gauge what the dancers want and adjust your set accordingly then you shouldn't be djing. Thats not to say you have to take the "safe" option either as too many IMHO so called DJ's seem to do. Agreed...
Dave Abbott Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 I guess it's not really that important if the DJ dances, the real issue is, are the money paying punters out on the floor enjoying themselves? Chris L That is true Chris...and also that if there's 100 people in and only 10 dancing, it doesn't mean that the other 90 aren't enjoying the music
Hitsville Chalky Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 From a DJ point just enjoy yourself I always do A DJ I admire and used to love to watch and listen to is the late Derek Allen.
Guest Neil Taylor Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 THE BEST DJ`S,ARE DANCERS.AND THE BEST DANCERS, ARE DJ`S...... THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.
Dave Moore Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 At the Hitsville Weekender in 3 weeks, there will be a constant stream of "DJs" leaping between dancefloor and Technics. It what we buy the bleedin' records for innit? Regards, Dave www.theresthatbeat.com www.hitsvillesoulclub.com
Jumpinjoan Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Oooh Paul... not going anywhere at the weekend isn't good for you! All I can say is I'm glad this isn't in my section One thing that has had me thinking for ages though... is why... as a rule... don't DJ's dance? Did they dance before they became 'DJ's'? ... and if so... why don't they dance now?
Guest Bearsy Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Oooh Paul... not going anywhere at the weekend isn't good for you! All I can say is I'm glad this isn't in my section One thing that has had me thinking for ages though... is why... as a rule... don't DJ's dance? Did they dance before they became 'DJ's'? ... and if so... why don't they dance now? very good points Joan, its the DJs that show no emotion what so ever when DJing that really baffle me, no smiles no movement no singing along and just standing there Its called SOUL music for a reason aint it, it reaches in and grabs your soul and makes you want to at least smile Does this mean that the said DJs aint really soulies but imposters looking for stardom
Kevinkent Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 At the Hitsville Weekender in 3 weeks, there will be a constant stream of "DJs" leaping between dancefloor and Technics. It what we buy the bleedin' records for innit? Regards, Dave www.theresthatbeat.com www.hitsvillesoulclub.com To right it is Dave. When I've got a few I'm thinking of buying I bundle them together on your Soulclub jukebox and play 'em - the ones I find myself dancin' to are the ones I buy. Cheers mate for providing an invaluable service
Paul R Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Thinking about it, was it more pronounced years ago?. You didn't see the "Top" Jocks at allnighters dancing. By that, I don't include people Like Dave evison, who was a fan that played oldies. The dancing DJs were generally the people who put on Local soul nights in pub back rooms & working mens clubs. paul
Guest andyrattigan Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Having been on this scene for nearay 30 years, I would just like to see what peoples opinions are on dj's and dancing. I myself have often heard tunes and thought 'f--k me' how do you dance to that. Then when i've looked to see who's playing it, it's a non-dancing dj. I, personally, only play tunes that inspire ME to dance and hope that others feel the same way! But, I often look up at the decks to see one or, at some venues, ten! people standing around looking at the record admiringly....BUT it does'nt seem to infiltrate their bodies! Im not saying its a pre-requisite of dj'ing, but its an interesting point! DJ's that dance a lot themselves tend to play the most danceable sets. Two examples that spring to mind: Keb Darge and Eduardo Domingo from Barcelona. Not to mention Irish Pip who plays proper dancefloor Soul. There is the odd DJ that plays too many beat ballads in a set. I love beat ballads but think they should be reserved only for enders. They can really bring the energy of an allnighter down IMO.
Guest Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Sean Chapman was dancing whilst djing at Letchworth and Luton at Lynns birthday party, which I think is GREAT!
sister dawn Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) From a DJ point just enjoy yourself I always do A DJ I admire and used to love to watch and listen to is the late Derek Allen. Me too, he always had a huge grin on his face when he did it , sung along to everyone too, with real passion as it should be. Never seen anyone like it since. RIP Derek we still miss ya. x Edited August 19, 2007 by Sister Dawn
Guest Matt Male Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) THE BEST DJ`S,ARE DANCERS.AND THE BEST DANCERS, ARE DJ`S...... THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. Name some to prove your theory? Some of my favourite DJs are Cliff Steele, Dave Welding, Carl Fortnum, John Weston and Dave Rimmer. I can't say i've ever seen any of them dance and personally i don't care if they do or not as long as they keep spinning the quality they usually come up with Edited August 19, 2007 by Matt Male
Guest Bearsy Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Name some to prove your theory? Moldie for one oh sorry he is a shit dancer and DJ
Winnie :-) Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Name some to prove your theory? Some of my favourite DJs are Cliff Steele, Dave Welding, Carl Fortnum, John Weston and Dave Rimmer. I can't say i've ever seen any of them dance and personally i don't care if they do or not as long as they keep spinning the quality they usually come up with ============== Andy Rix
Simon T Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Name some to prove your theory? Some of my favourite DJs are Cliff Steele, Dave Welding, Carl Fortnum, John Weston and Dave Rimmer. I can't say i've ever seen any of them dance and personally i don't care if they do or not as long as they keep spinning the quality they usually come up with You can see Carl F dancing to Bobbie Smith on the Leicester 2nd aniversary video from 1984
Toodarnsoulful Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Name some to prove your theory? Some of my favourite DJs are Cliff Steele, Dave Welding, Carl Fortnum, John Weston and Dave Rimmer. I can't say i've ever seen any of them dance and personally i don't care if they do or not as long as they keep spinning the quality they usually come up with I have seen Dave Rimmer dance at the Belfast Soul Weekender last year im sure (and he was pretty good as well!!!) Little plug while im on, Belfast Soul Weekender this October!! Guy Hennigan, Dave Rimmer, Chic, Danny Duggan, Chris Morgan + many more!!! get yourselves over as its a fookin top weeekend...
Md Records Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Best Two D.J.'s on the scene ever (in my own opinion) Butch & Richard Searling....... can't remember them dancing, didn't care if they did or didn't! D.J.'s that Dance making better D.J.'s, it's F***ing irrelevant, and always has been. D.J.'s - Concentrate on getting some dynamite new tunes, not on your dance moves......that's your job. Des Parker
Dave Rimmer Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Name some to prove your theory? Some of my favourite DJs are Cliff Steele, Dave Welding, Carl Fortnum, John Weston and Dave Rimmer. I can't say i've ever seen any of them dance and personally i don't care if they do or not as long as they keep spinning the quality they usually come up with Thanks Matt, I do dance occasionally, but in all honesty haven't danced really for years because if I spend the night dancing, I have real trouble walking the next day. Johnny Weston is a regular dancer though, and you must have just not been on the same dancefloors. I'm pretty sure I've seen Cliff and Carl dancing, but not often, and have to admit I don't think I've ever seen Dave Welding dance. I do think it's essential for a DJ to have a sense of rhythm, and to understand what makes people want to dance, but it's not essential for a DJ to actually be a dancer. Remember being a dancer doesn't bestow anything special except a sweaty shirt, and I've seen some pretty awful dancers who DJ.
Paul-s Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 At the Hitsville Weekender in 3 weeks, there will be a constant stream of "DJs" leaping between dancefloor and Technics. It what we buy the bleedin' records for innit? Regards, Dave www.theresthatbeat.com www.hitsvillesoulclub.com
Paul-s Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 Do dj's who dance behind the decks count YES they do....my point was, I often see people djing and the record has'nt even entered their own body...they just stand there...not even a foot tap!! Surely a record should MOVE you in some way. Guess they are the internal types!
Paul-s Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 Name some to prove your theory? Some of my favourite DJs are Cliff Steele, Dave Welding, Carl Fortnum, John Weston and Dave Rimmer. I can't say i've ever seen any of them dance and personally i don't care if they do or not as long as they keep spinning the quality they usually come up with JOHN WESTON...Fookin hell mate. He's never off the floor!! Thats why he IS one of my favourite dj's. When you book people like John, they bring more than JUST A BOX OF TUNES to a night. They bring 'soul' and the desire to party and have a good time. Not stand around, pontificating and looking bored!!
Paul-s Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 Best Two D.J.'s on the scene ever (in my own opinion) Butch & Richard Searling....... can't remember them dancing, didn't care if they did or didn't! D.J.'s that Dance making better D.J.'s, it's F***ing irrelevant, and always has been. D.J.'s - Concentrate on getting some dynamite new tunes, not on your dance moves......that's your job. Des Parker Ive seen Butch dance and he's a v good dancer too!! how about getting dynamite tunes and because you dance yourself and those tunes make 'your' feet move...........everyone else will follow!?
Paul-s Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 I have seen Dave Rimmer dance at the Belfast Soul Weekender last year im sure (and he was pretty good as well!!!) Little plug while im on, Belfast Soul Weekender this October!! Guy Hennigan, Dave Rimmer, Chic, Danny Duggan, Chris Morgan + many more!!! get yourselves over as its a fookin top weeekend... Chic and Chris Morgan....great dancers and great dj's!! Mr Hennigan is a good mover aswell! And he's dug up a few tunes...
Peter99 Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Sam always rocks behind the decks - he's always enthusiastic about what's being played.
Guest Baz Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Who actually cares if a DJ dances or not? As long as they play boss tunes and whip up a strom. Not all people like to dance or feel comfatable dancing. Any examples of non dancing DJs that fit the bill?
Little-stevie Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 good point BAZ:::plenty good djs who play great tunes but aint the dancing types,they all get soul in their own little way::plain and simple::::
Jumpinjoan Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 good point BAZ:::plenty good djs who play great tunes but aint the dancing types,they all get soul in their own little way::plain and simple:::: You would think so wouldn't you. But could you stand... or sit there... showing absolutely no emotion what so ever for 8 hours? I very much doubt it my friend. Some might as well be in a launderette they look that bored!
Jumpinjoan Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Here's a thought... do some DJ's think they are above dancing to other DJ's spots?
Guest NASHEE Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 You would think so wouldn't you. But could you stand... or sit there... showing absolutely no emotion what so ever for 8 hours? I very much doubt it my friend. Some might as well be in a launderette they look that bored! Joan..I'm not great at jumping...so not only do I dance to my tunes...I sing the words and am proficient in pretending to play the saxophone..piano..air guitar..and the whole bloody string section if needed. I couldn't play a tune that didn't give me an ear to ear grin. Linda
Paul-s Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 Any examples of non dancing DJs that fit the bill?
Ernie Andrews Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Have you ever see John weston when hes on the decks- Now Johnny Boy is a fabulous dancer especially when he has had a few and falls over!
Bazza Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 It always puts a smile on my face when Sean comes from behind the decks and does a bit,I like to see it,you can see he loves doing his spots...great stuff Sean Bazza
Paul-s Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) they all get soul in their own little way::plain and simple:::: ALL.....I dont think so.....some look bored sh....tless with their own spots! Some, even leave the event as soon as they have done their spot. That doesn't tell me that they are enjoying the night. Edited August 20, 2007 by paul-s
Paul-s Posted August 20, 2007 Author Posted August 20, 2007 Have you ever see John weston when hes on the decks- Now Johnny Boy is a fabulous dancer especially when he has had a few and falls over! LONG LIVE Spagetti Weston!! TOP NOTCH!
Toodarnsoulful Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Special mention to one of my favourite dancing Dj's Danny Duggan from Dublin!! Hits the floor after his spot (sometimes literally! ) and definitely does not leave the venue after his spot... Top guy, top dj and still can move out on the floor...
Guest Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Surely if ya`gonna`start a dancing thread(again),you aught to be able to dance yourself.
Guest Neil Taylor Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Name some to prove your theory? Some of my favourite DJs are Cliff Steele, Dave Welding, Carl Fortnum, John Weston and Dave Rimmer. I can't say i've ever seen any of them dance and personally i don't care if they do or not as long as they keep spinning the quality they usually come up with EASY MATE......KARL HEARD,GEOFF RUDD,KEV FEARNHEAD,KEV JOHNSON......AND SO ON,THERE`S FOOKIN`LOADS PAL.
Little-stevie Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Here's a thought... do some DJ's think they are above dancing to other DJ's spots?
Little-stevie Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 You would think so wouldn't you. But could you stand... or sit there... showing absolutely no emotion what so ever for 8 hours? I very much doubt it my friend. Some might as well be in a launderette they look that bored! no i could not Joan but i know quite a few folk who may look pretty bored but they are having a great time::some just do it their own way;;;
Guest chorleybloke Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Having been on this scene for nearay 30 years, I would just like to see what peoples opinions are on dj's and dancing. I myself have often heard tunes and thought 'f--k me' how do you dance to that. Then when i've looked to see who's playing it, it's a non-dancing dj. I, personally, only play tunes that inspire ME to dance and hope that others feel the same way! But, I often look up at the decks to see one or, at some venues, ten! people standing around looking at the record admiringly....BUT it does'nt seem to infiltrate their bodies! Im not saying its a pre-requisite of dj'ing, but its an interesting point!
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