Tomangoes Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Although the words Northern Soul do not guarantee a record is in fact soulfull, it must be said that the majority are. Whats your top 3 that prove this point. My top 3 Tomangoes - I really love you baby - Washpan. Gwen Owens - Just say your wanted and needed - Velgo. Dena Barnes - If you ever walk out of my life - Inferno. Ed
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) Although the words Northern Soul do not guarantee a record is in fact soulfull, it must be said that the majority are. Whats your top 3 that prove this point. My top 3 Tomangoes - I really love you baby - Washpan. Gwen Owens - Just say your wanted and needed - Velgo. Dena Barnes - If you ever walk out of my life - Inferno. Ed link Is that why you call yourself Tomangoes This is very difficult thread to pin down In my profile is Roy Hamilton - Panic Is On , so that is a good place to start and after that ;l;pup==ooo4o488687777e7&&%$£££""TTT$$"!*@@&^^ BRAIN SCRAMBLE Edited February 11, 2005 by Richard Bergman
John May Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Although the words Northern Soul do not guarantee a record is in fact soulfull, it must be said that the majority are. Whats your top 3 that prove this point. My top 3 Tomangoes - I really love you baby - Washpan. Gwen Owens - Just say your wanted and needed - Velgo. Dena Barnes - If you ever walk out of my life - Inferno. Ed link Frank Dell ....He broke your game wide open...valise Sam Fletcher......Think it over twice...Tollie Herb Ward...Strange change....Argo
John May Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 In my profile is Roy Hamilton - Panic Is On link How could I forget Roy, and what a record.....
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) Frank Dell ....He broke your game wide open...valise Sam Fletcher......Think it over twice...Tollie Herb Ward...Strange change....Argo link Very forthright John , a very admirable quality I thinkthey call it conviction don't they Edited February 11, 2005 by Richard Bergman
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Although the words Northern Soul do not guarantee a record is in fact soulfull, it must be said that the majority are. Whats your top 3 that prove this point. My top 3 Tomangoes - I really love you baby - Washpan. Gwen Owens - Just say your wanted and needed - Velgo. Dena Barnes - If you ever walk out of my life - Inferno. Ed link Big Maybelle - oh lord George Freeman - Down and out Jerry Butler - I stand accused
John May Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 In my profile is Roy Hamilton - Panic Is On - MGM link Actually think I might play that at Greatstone on the 19th, I havn't played that out for a while, It could do with a spin......
John May Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Big Maybelle - oh lord George Freeman - Down and out Jerry Butler - I stand accused link some good soulful tunes coming out here, very refreshing.......
Billy Freemantle Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 I'm really not sure to wha extent Northern Soul is on the whole Soul at all. If you take Northern records by performers who are better known for deeper stuff, their Northern records, although they may still be very good records, don't often count as Soul by comparison. Roscoe Robinsobn is a good example here. But back to the soulful Northern theme: 'Twinkle Little Star' by the Parisians is to my mind a gritty soulful soul record despite the silly title. Actually, in the good old early days, before Northern was called that, most of the records played were first and foremost Soul records albeit not as soulful as the slower stuff. Just listening to Homer Banks ' A lot of Love'. Great northern soul with soul.
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 some good soulful tunes coming out here, very refreshing....... link For sheer raw emotion Jerry takes some beating the line "you belong to another and I may not stand a ghost of a chance " gets me everytime - THE line for all men who have loved the WRONG woman
John May Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Let's try and think of some soulful group tracks..... Most tracks by the Volumes are very soulful, Falcons, Magnetics, Fabulous Peps etc...
Godzilla Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Although the words Northern Soul do not guarantee a record is in fact soulfull, it must be said that the majority are. Whats your top 3 that prove this point. Ed link Bari Track Godz
Guest mattmale Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 I agree with The Tomagoes, but it has to be also Too Darn Soulful - Morris Chestnut (a record which lives up to it's name) Wanted - Larry Clinton can i have another? I'm Gone - Eddie Parker Imagine hearing those four back to back.....
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Actually think I might play that at Greatstone on the 19th, I havn't played that out for a while, It could do with a spin...... link Go for it John ! It's such a good tune - Bought a lot of Roy's spiritual albums on epic off ebay - sheer quality - Good listen to his voice for days on end without getting bored
Pete S Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Bari Track Godz link I think Bari Track is way more soulful than The Panic Is On. In fact, I don't think Panic Is On is a soul record at all to be honest. It's a great track but it's uptown pop music.
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Let's try and think of some soulful group tracks..... Most tracks by the Volumes are very soulful, Falcons, Magnetics, Fabulous Peps etc... link Rockmasters - Raining teardrops - Soul Stirrers - touch the hem - (okay I know its gospel but ....)
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 I think Bari Track is way more soulful than The Panic Is On. In fact, I don't think Panic Is On is a soul record at all to be honest. It's a great track but it's uptown pop music. link Uptown pop music ? - You're joking arent you - Is this just a controversial statement Pete or do you honestly have the convistion to back that up What qualities does the track have to qualify it as "uptown pop music " ?
John May Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Rockmasters - Raining teardrops - Romulus link AWESOME record.........
Guest rachel Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Definitely Roy Hamilton.. in a similar big voice ballad style.... Brad Lundy or Deena Johnson - The Breaking Point Wade Flemmons - That Other Place The Furys - Baby You Can Bet Your Boots
Paul R Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Linda Jones-I Just Can't Live My Life Jodi Mathis-Don't You Care Anymore Spyder Turner-Just Can't Make It Anymore To me real Northern and Soulful. I'm sorry but the beat ballad type thing can be more soulful than old style northern but it doesn't cut it for me on a night out. Paul
Gasher Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Rosevelt Mathwews..You got me diggin you Shiela Ferguson..And in return Walter Jackson..let me come back baby These 3 work for me Cause a stirring in the dangley toilet parts The Gasher
Guest rachel Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Cause a stirring in the dangley toilet parts link I think that verges on too much info!!!
Guest 45s and 33s Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 The most soulful (today at any rate) for me are ... Roy Hamilton - You can count on me Kenny Shepard - What difference does it make Walter Jackson - Gotta find me an angel Ali
Billy Freemantle Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) In fact, I don't think Panic Is On is a soul record at all to be honest. It's a great track but it's uptown pop music. link I think that's an interesting observation. I think it must be almost definitely true that Roy was hoping to cross over with that one into the white middle class market. His phrasing and enunciation are as white as a Perry Como. For all that, it's a great sound. But is it a soul record? Perhaps not. Edited February 11, 2005 by Billy Freemantle
jazzyjas Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Of course, for the 900th time... Salvadors-Stick By Me Baby-my#1 favorite. You can almost hear a gospel influnce with the background singers and the tambourines. You Got To Have Money-Exits-Jimmy Conwell is one soulful dude. Met him and confirmed that. The ballad on the back of "To Much" called "Let it All Out" on Gemini also deserves mention for a seriously soulful delivery. What a quality singer he is. Just Loving You-Ruby Andrews-no need to even discuss this tune. Just brilliant. Masqueraders-Do You Love Me Baby. Got to agree with Derek Pearson that Lee J. has one of themost soulful voices ever. Although I think "Average Guy" by them on AGP is total masterpiece and one of the most beautiful deep soul records I can think of. What Price-Nathan Williams Somebody Somewhere Needs You-Darrell Banks Home Is Where the Heart Is-Bobby Womack & the Brotherhood So many more... KTF Jas
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 I'd like to offer up a couple for consideration Dells - Make sure or Run for cover couldn't really decide which I know John Boy has already nominated Frank Dell but i'd second that and perhaps offer up Garland Green take your pick but perhaps Ain't that good enough or It Rained 40 days and 40 nights but the list is endless you've got to love all this old bo***cks don't ya
John May Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 I think that's an interesting observation. I think it must be almost definitely true that Roy was hoping to cross over with that one into the white middle class market. His phrasing and enunciation are as white as a Perry Como. For all that, it's a great sound. But is it a soul record? Perhaps not. link I understand where you are coming from Billy, For me though Roy Hamilton could sing "teddy bears picnic" and make it soulful...........He's was the man
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 I understand where you are coming from Billy, For me though Roy Hamilton could sing "teddy bears picnic" and make it soulful...........He's was the man link Didn't Pete Smith have a single sided acetate of Roy Hamilton's - Teddy Bears Picnic on the Virtue imprint lookalikey
Guest Posted February 12, 2005 Posted February 12, 2005 cant lose my head george blackwell. stick by me baby salvordors.im gone eddie parker.
John May Posted February 12, 2005 Posted February 12, 2005 cant lose my head george blackwell. stick by me baby salvordors.im gone eddie parker. link Here's a few more...........Soulful " NORTHERN SOUL " J.J Barnes.....Please let me in Darrell Banks....Open the door too your heart Herb Ward ( again ) ...Honest to goodness
Gasher Posted February 12, 2005 Posted February 12, 2005 (edited) I think that verges on too much info!!! Oh come on Rachel.I love to share Im that kinda guy.. the Gasher Edited February 12, 2005 by gash99
Pete S Posted February 12, 2005 Posted February 12, 2005 Didn't Pete Smith have a single sided acetate of Roy Hamilton's - Teddy Bears Picnic on the Virtue imprint lookalikey link I did but I sold it
Godzilla Posted February 12, 2005 Posted February 12, 2005 I did but I sold it link I thought it was a two sider with the vocal version of Afternoon On The Rhino by The Johnny Morris Set on the flip Godz
Simsy Posted February 12, 2005 Posted February 12, 2005 (edited) Although the words Northern Soul do not guarantee a record is in fact soulfull, it must be said that the majority are. Whats your top 3 that prove this point. My top 3 Tomangoes - I really love you baby - Washpan. Gwen Owens - Just say your wanted and needed - Velgo. Dena Barnes - If you ever walk out of my life - Inferno. Ed link Hard for three with so much choice and talent, but here goes for a possible deep soul 5; Freddie Houston - Soft Walking Cleveland Robinson Jr - Love is a trap Roosevelt Grier - Lover set me free Jerry Jackson - It's rough out there Tony Middleton - To the ends of the earth Edited February 12, 2005 by Ian Sims
John Siret Posted February 12, 2005 Posted February 12, 2005 Two Northern Soul tracks that hit the spot every time Johnnie Mae Matthews - I Have No Choice - BigHit Larry Wright - It's OK - A-gogo CLASS
Chalky Posted February 12, 2005 Posted February 12, 2005 One of the best stories/tales ever put to vinyl and certainly one of the most soulful Tony Clark - The Wrong Man - MS. Bobby Bennett - Alone With Mt Tears - V-Tone also takes some beating.
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 One of the best stories/tales ever put to vinyl and certainly one of the most soulful Tony Clark - The Wrong Man - MS. link Better than the Snake?
Chalky Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Better than the Snake? link Has the snake got any soul in it
Guest Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Brooks O'Dell - Watch Your Step Roy Hamilton - Panic Is On (brilliant shout Joe Orton....a staggering SOUL record) Jackie Wilson - Haunted House.
John Parker Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 For Soulfulness Eddie Campbell Contagious Love Artco
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Has the snake got any soul in it link Of course it has
Guest Rich Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 amidst the Rou Hamilton debate, I much prefer Lou Johnson myself although Roy's 'She's got a heart' always got them on the floor at the Wilton. Soulful - I'll probably change my mind tomorrow but group-wise, The Volumes 'Same old feeling' takes some beating. Likewise, in the blokes stakes, George Jackson - 'I don't have the time to love you' kills me every time. On the lasses front, Marjorie Black's 'One more hurt' is a current slayer in me back room. On the other hand............
Garethx Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 You won't get more soul packed into a northern record than Lorraine Rudolph "Keep Coming Back For More" on Jet Stream. What would this be worth if it were in any way scarce? Agree with those who've nominated both Big Maybelle "Oh Lord..." and Eddie Parker's "I'm Gone". A current favourite of mine in the northern soul stakes is Benny Harper's "My Prayer" on Harper Soul: a staggeringly soulful side, where the sheer force and guts of the vocal and the track itself combine to take the breath away.
Soulfool Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Otis Leavill - "A Reason To Be Lonely" Eddie Whitehead - "Just Your Fool" J M Matthews - "I Have No Choice" Three stunningly magnificent soul voices with three stunningly magnificent tunes David
jocko Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Interesting choices, and as rare as it may ,I think Pete has a point about Roy Hamilton, I love the record and always have done but on a pure soul type classification his voice is aimed at crossing over (a point better made by the as always very eloquent Billy Freemantle above). I think its interesting that a large number of the choices have been in the uptown big voice style, very emotional but not always classic soulful to me, and thats not a dig as thanks to Ady C's promting over this style over the years I do love it. To me Jackie Beavers Love that Never.. and Eddie Parker Im Gone are proper NS records but as soulful as you can get. Also an honorable mention to Jodi Mathis that someone mentions, hadnt heard it for years and on cd over headphones it amazed me how soulful that is. An underplayed imaginative oldie for one of the 35000 dj's on the scene to pick up maybe?? Cheers Jock
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Definitely Roy Hamilton.. in a similar big voice ballad style.... Brad Lundy or Deena Johnson - The Breaking Point Wade Flemmons - That Other Place The Furys - Baby You Can Bet Your Boots link The flip to the Furys - Tha man who has everything is bloody gorgeous -
Guest rachel Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Also an honorable mention to Jodi Mathis that someone mentions, hadnt heard it for years and on cd over headphones it amazed me how soulful that is. An underplayed imaginative oldie for one of the 35000 dj's on the scene to pick up maybe?? link Didn't notice the Jodi Mathis when it was first mentioned, great vocal, played it out a couple of times last year. Rachel
Guest Richard Bergman Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Brooks O'Dell - Watch Your Step Roy Hamilton - Panic Is On (brilliant shout Joe Orton....a staggering SOUL record) Jackie Wilson - Haunted House. link Brooks O'dell one of the best 15 quidders you could buy
Chalky Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Just chillin listening to some Stafford slowies....... Here's 5 all oozing with soul IMO Faye Crawford - What Have I Done Wrong - RCA Johnny Gilliam - Room Full Of Tears - Cancer Johnny Gilliam - Find Yourself Another - Bo Mar Lonnett - Blue Jeans - M&S Sir Ceaser - Show Me The Time - Ride
grouse Posted February 13, 2005 Posted February 13, 2005 Linda Jones-I Just Can't Live My Life Jodi Mathis-Don't You Care Anymore Spyder Turner-Just Can't Make It Anymore Totally agree with Linda Jones and Spyder Turner I'd have to add Jackie Wilson-Just Be Sincere
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