Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I'd not played this for about 15 years , ( overplayed oldie was in my mind for all that time , so left it off the decks ) but I spun it last night at home and what a record !! .. How much do we know about this artist ..I think I also have a 45 called "Spice" by him Cheers Simon
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 FAB RECORD JUST GOT A ALL RED LABEL OF IT LONGER! Was that the first issue ?
Peter99 Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I think Time Together is a class tune Simon - might have been a bit overplayed in the early 80's but I never tired of hearing it - and as you say still sounds great. I've got the Spice 45 too. Don't know too much else about him. Spice is quite a nice bit of Southern soul. I seem to recall - although I'm no expert that the Time Together 45 was released twice and that the second press is inferior to the first - I think there are some differences on the label too. As I say I could be mistaken cos I'm not an expert. Class tune though.
pikeys dog Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 "I've got to start my life" on Mobile is a pretty good uptempo 70s dancer if you like that kind of tune...
Guest Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 FAB RECORD JUST GOT A ALL RED LABEL OF IT LONGER! Got em`both,give em`a race later red one is a lot bassier than the other
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 Got em`both,give em`a race later red one is a lot bassier than the other So whats the details on this all red issue ?
TOAD Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 LSSTT HFMP 1005 B TIME 3:05 GIVE ME SOMETHING TO GO ON 3:40 A SIDE
Pete S Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I'm not just saying this for effect but I've been saying it ever since I joined this forum. This is the worst record ever played or ever made. It's worse than Tim Tam. It's worse than Bryan Hyland. It's worse than Micky Mouse Concerto. Records like this ruined Northern Soul and still continue to.
Peter99 Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I'm not just saying this for effect but I've been saying it ever since I joined this forum. This is the worst record ever played or ever made. It's worse than Tim Tam. It's worse than Bryan Hyland. It's worse than Micky Mouse Concerto. Records like this ruined Northern Soul and still continue to. Aha Pete - but not worse than the Carstairs then! I knew you'd regret taking that hammer to that piece of vinyl - it's playing on yer mind.
Pete S Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Aha Pete - but not worse than the Carstairs then! I knew you'd regret taking that hammer to that piece of vinyl - it's playing on yer mind. No, it's worse than the Carstairs by a mile!
TOAD Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Records like this ruined Northern Soul and still continue to. yawn yawn
Guest mel brat Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Yeah! 'sides, it's got awfully complex an' pre-ten-tious an' subversive rhythms, an' it's really hard to dance to an' stuff..... (if you can't actually dance to save your life!) I much prefer the classy flipside anyway nowadays. A lovely mellow beat ballad that has stood the test of time.
Pete S Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Records like this ruined Northern Soul and still continue to. yawn yawn Fabulous retort Tim, keep practising and you might wake me up from the coma you put me in with your unique brand of comedy
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 (edited) I'm not just saying this for effect but I've been saying it ever since I joined this forum. This is the worst record ever played or ever made. It's worse than Tim Tam. It's worse than Bryan Hyland. It's worse than Micky Mouse Concerto. Records like this ruined Northern Soul and still continue to. Hmmm I think Richard Searling gave up on the 60's NS scene , coz he loved soul music like this ( but that boot LP with his top tunes on must of of pushed him a bit too ) This record started the Modern Soul scene really , brilliant record ..same with Roy Dawson , Omni , DSOF etc etc Edited August 2, 2007 by Simon M
Pete S Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Hmmm I think Richard Searling gave up on the 60's NS scene , coz of music like this ( but that boot LP with his top tunes on must of of pushed him a bit too ) This record started the Modern Soul scene really , brilliant record ..same with Roy Dawson , Omni , DSOF etc etc Well good riddance, he'd done his bit, he was one of the best 3 ever but obviously when it's time to move on, he made the right decision.
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 (edited) Well good riddance, he'd done his bit, he was one of the best 3 ever but obviously when it's time to move on, he made the right decision. Apparently he still has 60's newies !! . Searling , I have to say it .. Awesome taste in soul ! , thats all that matters IMO Edited August 1, 2007 by Simon M
Pete S Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Apparently he still has 60's newies !! . Searling , I have to say it .. Awesome taste in soul ! , thats all that matters IMO Searling is a great man, no doubt about it, and he was a long time hero of mine (still is), but because he changes direction in his music it doesn't follow that I have to go with him -
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 Searling is a great man, no doubt about it, and he was a long time hero of mine (still is), but because he changes direction in his music it doesn't follow that I have to go with him - I know Pete , dont worry I would never ask that of you . So who was your champion after John A got Richard to go Modern ?
Peter99 Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I know Pete , dont worry I would never ask that of you . So who was your champion after John A got Richard to go Modern ? That's an interesting question - were you a fan of Guy and Kebs sixties newies era Pete? I know I certainly wasn't!
Guest Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 So whats the details on this all red issue ? Do a scan of both if i can find em`,not going to look too hard tho`.......still owe a fiver for the red one,and the lad who sold me it,Girl is on here just seems everytime i see em`i`m skint,allways Normington
Barry Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I'd not played this for about 15 years , ( overplayed oldie was in my mind for all that time , so left it off the decks ) but I spun it last night at home and what a record !! .. How much do we know about this artist ..I think I also have a 45 called "Spice" by him Cheers Simon I went to watch Slave in Glasgow in the early 80's and was reliably informed that Larry was their bass player for that tour - got to meet 'em but didn't get chance to speak directly to him to see if was true or not.
Pete S Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I know Pete , dont worry I would never ask that of you . So who was your champion after John A got Richard to go Modern ? That's a good question actually. In the 80's I only went to local things apart from the odd visit to Keele and the 100 Club so I liked people like Ian Clark at the 100, Ted Massey at the Old Vic. I never went to Stafford - not in it's allnighter incarnation anyway, I only went there to alldayers - so I never heard keb and Guy etc but I've certainly heard their records and I loved their attitude, throw away the oldies, go forward with 60's newies. My personal favourite Wigan dj's were Richard, John Vincent and Alan Rhodes, though JV went too soon and AR changed direction..
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 That's a good question actually. In the 80's I only went to local things apart from the odd visit to Keele and the 100 Club so I liked people like Ian Clark at the 100, Ted Massey at the Old Vic. I never went to Stafford - not in it's allnighter incarnation anyway, I only went there to alldayers - so I never heard keb and Guy etc but I've certainly heard their records and I loved their attitude, throw away the oldies, go forward with 60's newies. My personal favourite Wigan dj's were Richard, John Vincent and Alan Rhodes, though JV went too soon and AR changed direction.. You were lucky not to hear all of Guy and Kebs stuff !! .. any of their tunes you can list here you like .. Romance Watson maybe ?
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 (edited) You were lucky not to hear all of Guy and Kebs stuff !! .. any of their tunes you can list here you like .. Romance Watson maybe ? By the way Ian Clark was a fav of mine great 60's and lots of Modern and of course Glenda .. I used to leave after his spot , as it was all downhill .. I remember people started playing latin stuff too at the 100 club , hmmmm not so good IMO !! Edited August 1, 2007 by Simon M
Pete S Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 You were lucky not to hear all of Guy and Kebs stuff !! .. any of their tunes you can list here you like .. Romance Watson maybe ? Now why would you suggest that I like Romance Watson? That's just silly. Why not... ROSCOE SHELTON SAM DEES GWEN DAVIS SEQUINS TOPICS BOBBY WOMACK JACKIE BEAVERS BUNNY SIGLER CREATIONS EMPIRES CHUCK CARTER INVERTS GEORGE JACKSON TEMPTATIONS etc etc you could go on all day
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 (edited) Now why would you suggest that I like Romance Watson? That's just silly. Why not... ROSCOE SHELTON SAM DEES GWEN DAVIS SEQUINS TOPICS BOBBY WOMACK JACKIE BEAVERS BUNNY SIGLER CREATIONS EMPIRES CHUCK CARTER INVERTS GEORGE JACKSON TEMPTATIONS etc etc you could go on all day Yeah they did get through a lot of records , cheap stuff too like L Rudolph and Two People on revue .. Just looking at the New discoveries thread , its very dead . It would of had about 300 replies in 1983/84 .. ps. what was the Bobby Womack record? Edited August 1, 2007 by Simon M
Pete S Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 ps. what was the Bobby Womack record? "Nothing you can do" on HIM label...very primitive and probably done in retaliation for the Stones nicking It's All Over Now as it starts off with the Satisfaction riff...
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 "Nothing you can do" on HIM label...very primitive and probably done in retaliation for the Stones nicking It's All Over Now as it starts off with the Satisfaction riff... Have you got a soundfile you can post me refosoul is not working for that !
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 I went to watch Slave in Glasgow in the early 80's and was reliably informed that Larry was their bass player for that tour - got to meet 'em but didn't get chance to speak directly to him to see if was true or not. V Interesting , any more info anyone?
Sean Hampsey Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Hi Simon, "Nothing You Can Do" by Womack was known about (and played) long before Stafford, but that venue certainly gave it more exposure. The song was done in 1965 and when Womack began writing for Wilson Pickett it was the first of over a dozen Womack tracks that Pickett recorded. Check the flipside to "Everybody Needs Somebody" for the Pickett version... also attachment to hear! Don't have the Womack mp3 on this PC. SeanNothing_You_Can_Do___Pickett.mp3
Simon M Posted August 1, 2007 Author Posted August 1, 2007 Hi Simon, "Nothing You Can Do" by Womack was known about (and played) long before Stafford, but that venue certainly gave it more exposure. The song was done in 1965 and when Womack began writing for Wilson Pickett it was the first of over a dozen Womack tracks that Pickett recorded. Check the flipside to "Everybody Needs Somebody" for the Pickett version... also attachment to hear! Don't have the Womack mp3 on this PC. Sean Thanks for that Sean ! The stafford Womack track for me was "tell me why"
Sean Hampsey Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 The stafford Womack track for me was "tell me why"
Simon T Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 So whats the details on this all red issue ? I seem to remember it's a plain red label with black text; always thought it was a boot as opposed to a legit re-issue. I think it was issued by the label twice, but not sure which was the original and which the re-issue; One has a light red top and print. LSSTT is all on one line and in capitals and lower case. The matrix stamp ' AUDIO LABS' is on both sides The other is more orange than red at the top and print. LSSTTÂ is all in capitals and split over two lines. 'AUDIO LABS' stamp is only on the 'give me something to go on' Â A side.
jocko Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Do we know if it is the same Larry Houston that did the 2 (?) records on Ambassador? Heard one many years ago but didnt think it was up to much. Life changing record for me, sorry Pete
Guest Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Here`s a good-un,stamped both sides.......lets spend some time,the label is so off centre it spreads over the playing area,i think alot where like this,sorry cant find me red one,i like it best
Simon T Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I seem to remember it's a plain red label with black text; always thought it was a boot as opposed to a legit re-issue. I think it was issued by the label twice, but not sure which was the original and which the re-issue; One has a light red top and print. LSSTT is all on one line and in capitals and lower case. The matrix stamp ' AUDIO LABS' is on both sides The other is more orange than red at the top and print. LSSTTÂ is all in capitals and split over two lines. 'AUDIO LABS' stamp is only on the 'give me something to go on' Â A side.
boba Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Do we know if it is the same Larry Houston that did the 2 (?) records on Ambassador? Heard one many years ago but didnt think it was up to much. Life changing record for me, sorry Pete it is, they are all chicago records
TOAD Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 BOOT LEG ? SCTRATCHED IN AUDIO STAMP RED LABEL BLACK PRINT NO AUDIO STAMP HFMP 1005 MIX & EDITTED GEN .CROOK ( ON THE LABEL) 3:05
Steve G Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 When I tracked down Larry in Waukegan in 1982 he sent me a 25 box, which I sold at the Fleet at 2.50 each. This box contained some with lower case title and a few with upper case title. Therefore I am pretty certain Larry pressed it twice.
Neil Rushton Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 They weren't boots, they were repressed for me by Larry in the early 80's, between 1,000 and 2,000, can't remember the quantity, probably more like 1,000 than 2,000. Neil
Pete S Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Life changing record for me, sorry Pete Me too - made me realise that there was no point going to allnighters again if this is the sort of thing that was going to be forced upon us
Simon M Posted August 2, 2007 Author Posted August 2, 2007 Me too - made me realise that there was no point going to allnighters again if this is the sort of thing that was going to be forced upon us You could of just stuck ya fingers in ya ears Pete .. or walked outside like i did for some of Kebs stuff
Simon M Posted August 2, 2007 Author Posted August 2, 2007 When I tracked down Larry in Waukegan in 1982 he sent me a 25 box, which I sold at the Fleet at 2.50 each. This box contained some with lower case title and a few with upper case title. Therefore I am pretty certain Larry pressed it twice. Pretty sure I got my copy on a very cold night at the Fleet 1982
Guest Ste Brazil Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 They weren't boots, they were repressed for me by Larry in the early 80's, between 1,000 and 2,000, can't remember the quantity, probably more like 1,000 than 2,000. Neil Which, the plain red label? I have this one somewhere, same value then, about £15-ish? Ste.
Peter99 Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Just to some up then - cos I'm thick. There are two legitimate issues of this - the first issue being the red label and the second issue with the orangey label. Is that correct? And what would you pay for either then - I lost mine - or broke it, and wouldn't mind replacing it?
Guest Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Just to some up then - cos I'm thick. There are two legitimate issues of this - the first issue being the red label and the second issue with the orangey label. Is that correct? And what would you pay for either then - I lost mine - or broke it, and wouldn't mind replacing it? You must be three issues,red n white;orange n white;and red n red
Peter99 Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 You must be three issues,red n white;orange n white;and red n red Thanks Ken So can I get one for fifteen quid?
Guest Ste Brazil Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Thanks Ken So can I get one for fifteen quid? I did! Cant get this song out of my head now
Guest Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 I did! Cant get this song out of my head now Oh oh,bet ya`pay twenty five to get it bakc.
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