Paris Blues

Billywhizz · February 9, 2005

Paris blues, you either love it or hate it, I believe it was an early wigan discovery.

Very big in its hayday, occasionally gets played today. To me it is not a mid-tempo, it is a chilling out track. I was speaking to someone saturday about this record, there is not a week goes past in the last 20 years, believe it or not where I have heard it 3-4 times a week. The words on it are really confusing, have I got this right, this fella takes his girl to Paris and it goes pear shaped straight away, he goes back on his own, and relives the fantasy which he wanted to happen in the first place. Please put me out of my misery and tell me i'm right!

Billy

Tomangoes · February 9, 2005

I thought it was about Paris Hilton. Imagine if the video had this as the backing music.

Ed

February 9, 2005

Paris blues, you either love it or hate it, I believe it was an early wigan discovery.
Very big in its hayday, occasionally gets played today. To me it is not a mid-tempo, it is a chilling out track. I was speaking to someone saturday about this record, there is not a week goes past in the last 20 years, believe it or not where I have heard it 3-4 times a week. The words on it are really confusing, have I got this right, this fella takes his girl to Paris and it goes pear shaped straight away, he goes back on his own, and relives the fantasy which he wanted to happen in the first place. Please put me out of my misery and tell me i'm right!
Billy

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I like the record, but i think its slightly similar to Vic Reeves when he does his pub singer bit

Ged Parker · February 9, 2005

Ground Breaking Record I would say big in '76 when no one was playing slow stuff opened a door many slow tracks have pushed through. I think I was alone in the Blackpool crew in liking it when it was being played again '79ish when it came out on Grapevine. But then I always have been ahead of (or is that behind) the times. :huh:

jazzyjas · February 9, 2005

I've heard it said somewhere that "Paris Blues" was a track played at the end of every one of John Manship's sets way back when he was a DJ. Was he partially responsible for this record's popularity or was this after it already went big at Wigan?

And while I'm on the subject, how was Manship rated as a DJ? He gets a good slagging on this site as a dealer, but what about JM the DJ?

Just curious.

KTF

Jas

February 9, 2005

I've heard it said somewhere that "Paris Blues" was a track played at the end of every one of John Manship's sets way back when he was a DJ. Was he partially responsible for this record's popularity or was this after it already went big at Wigan?

And while I'm on the subject, how was Manship rated as a DJ? He gets a good slagging on this site as a dealer, but what about JM the DJ?

Just curious.

KTF
Jas

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Excellent. Sometimes he was a bit partial to stomping pop, but usually different.

Only trouble is , he claims every record was first played at the Pier :huh:

Why people slag him as a dealer I don't know. If you don't like his prices, don't buy off him. Simple as that.

I've never had a problem with him, on and off since he started. And he's very helpful when some smug dealers sell you boots as originals.

Do you know who I mean Awake 502 ?

Billywhizz · February 9, 2005

Ground Breaking Record I would say big in '76 when no one was playing slow stuff opened a door many slow tracks have pushed through. I think I was alone in the Blackpool crew in liking it when it was being played again '79ish when it came out on Grapevine. But then I always have been ahead of (or is that behind) the times.

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I would say it is a ground breaking record, I can distincly remember there was a young girl on the dancefloor next to me at Wigan, they were playing paris blues, a few of us were spinning, all of a sudden she started to do handstands and an excellent splits in mid air, shes the girl on the wigan casino LP, with the strip going across her top, someone told me recently she has been going to stoke.

Billy

Little-stevie · February 9, 2005

Paris Blues really had a hold on me and then people started to tell me it was Tom Jones,put me off it for a while....Its got such a big sound,what a production behind it....Its gonna be on my mate Alans cd..Great drunken vocals vol 1..Another on there will be Big Joe Turner..."two loves have i"...

My mate loves vocals that sound like a pub drunk with a great soul voice...

February 9, 2005

Paris Blues really had a hold on me and then people started to tell me it was Tom Jones,put me off it for a while....Its got such a big sound,what a production behind it....Its gonna be on my mate Alans cd..Great drunken vocals vol 1..Another on there will be Big Joe Turner..."two loves have i"...
My mate loves vocals that sound like a pub drunk with a great soul voice...

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Drunken vocals - raw emotion on meths - is there anyother kind of soul

Paris Blues is a great big emotional record with a distinctive vocal -

It's one of thse records played at the right time in the right venue with the right crowd can create an uplifting feeling

February 9, 2005

Excellent. Sometimes he was a bit partial to stomping pop, but usually different.
Only trouble is , he claims every record was first played at the Pier

Why people slag him as a dealer I don't know. If you don't like his prices, don't buy off him. Simple as that.
I've never had a problem with him, on and off since he started. And he's very helpful when some smug dealers sell you boots as originals.
Do you know who I mean Awake 502 ?

link

Oh yes, and that's just one of the reasons I won't buy anything from him :yes:

February 9, 2005

Excellent. Sometimes he was a bit partial to stomping pop, but usually different.
Only trouble is , he claims every record was first played at the Pier

Why people slag him as a dealer I don't know. If you don't like his prices, don't buy off him. Simple as that.
I've never had a problem with him, on and off since he started. And he's very helpful when some smug dealers sell you boots as originals.
Do you know who I mean Awake 502 ?

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Actually that should have read 'Some smug dealer sells you boots as originals'

Rob Wigley · February 9, 2005

two things here, I had a john manship tape, not sales tape, but stuff he was playing at the end of his Dj era, Paris Blues was on it as was Geradine Hunt "Winner take all" ABC around 1976 Ive never heard anyone play "winner takes all" out, still sounds good to my ears !

And on the subject of Paris Blues I think it is the title music to a film of the same name from the late '50s early 60's, I'm sure there is an Elmer Berstien connection with that. Anybody know more or even seen the film ? it would tie in with Tony's

image etc

February 9, 2005

two things here, I had a john manship tape, not sales tape, but stuff he was playing at the end of his Dj era, Paris Blues was on it as was Geradine Hunt "Winner take all" ABC around 1976 Ive never heard anyone play "winner takes all" out, still sounds good to my ears !
And on the subject of Paris Blues I think it is the title music to a film of the same name from the late '50s early 60's, I'm sure there is an Elmer Berstien connection with that. Anybody know more or even seen the film ? it would tie in with Tony's
image etc

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Johns tapes and indeed lists included many records that didn't go big for a couple of yearsafter he recommended them.

Mike · February 9, 2005

remember at the time calling it gloomy northern

the film thing stirred interest to dig this up

its only a 15 sec or so clip, but doesnt sound like it to me dodgy ears

Mike · February 9, 2005

boring site note:

used a built in thing to display page

if wanna do similar just use the tags

like below

[if]https://www.bore-off.com[/if]

ie put the url in between 

[if] and [/if][/code]


and should display page

shouldnt cause hassle (if it does mess things up for you let us know)

and why think use is ok for commerical pages such as ebay and the above one

reckon not really the "right thing" to do for personal/similar sites

so ask only use it for that

Benji · February 9, 2005

tony middleton's 'paris blues' was produced and partly written by claus ogerman so i'd say it's an original tune, maybe they took the inspiration from the movie?

BTW, tony's "to the ends of the earth", that's a cover version of an old nat king cole song ...

Cheltsoulnights · February 9, 2005

Paris blues, you either love it or hate it, I believe it was an early wigan discovery.
Very big in its hayday, occasionally gets played today. To me it is not a mid-tempo, it is a chilling out track. I was speaking to someone saturday about this record, there is not a week goes past in the last 20 years, believe it or not where I have heard it 3-4 times a week. The words on it are really confusing, have I got this right, this fella takes his girl to Paris and it goes pear shaped straight away, he goes back on his own, and relives the fantasy which he wanted to happen in the first place. Please put me out of my misery and tell me i'm right!
Billy

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I would like to think of it as one the greatest beat ballads of all time

Pete

Dave Moore · February 9, 2005

Fantastic Record. Time and place maybe but Fantastic :shades: all the same.

Regartds,

Dave

Billywhizz · February 9, 2005

I would like to think of it as one the greatest beat ballads of all time

Pete

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Pete, I was surprised you and Dave are saying paris blues is one of the best beat ballads of all time, not totally agreeing with you but everyone to their own opinion.

If thats the case i am saying the drifter is one of my best beat ballads.

Billy

Dave Moore · February 9, 2005

Pete, I was surprised you and Dave are saying paris blues is one of the best beat ballads of all time, not totally agreeing with you but everyone to their own opinion.
If thats the case i am saying the drifter is one of my best beat ballads.
Billy

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An equally fine ditty Billy Lad. :shades:

Regards,

Dave

Simon T · February 9, 2005

Paris blues, you either love it or hate it, I believe it was an early wigan discovery.
Very big in its hayday, occasionally gets played today. To me it is not a mid-tempo, it is a chilling out track. I was speaking to someone saturday about this record, there is not a week goes past in the last 20 years, believe it or not where I have heard it 3-4 times a week. The words on it are really confusing, have I got this right, this fella takes his girl to Paris and it goes pear shaped straight away, he goes back on his own, and relives the fantasy which he wanted to happen in the first place. Please put me out of my misery and tell me i'm right!
Billy

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I thought is something to do with Paris in Texas, being sung by a US soul singer. However, I was told a long time ago that TM spent some time in Paris, France during the sixties, the s**t we're taken in with!!

pikeys dog · February 9, 2005

I thought is something to do with Paris in Texas, being sung by a US soul singer. However, I was told a long time ago that TM spent some time in Paris, France during the sixties, the s**t we're taken in with!!

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I heard he was posted there when he did a stint in the U.S. Army......

WOOF!

February 10, 2005

"Paris Blues" . . . my all time top tune. I first heard it outside a St.Ives nighter in 1977. Played at that Ken Cox venue by a bloke named 'Ginger', his copy was a nice blue issue. :shades:

Cheltsoulnights · February 10, 2005

Pete, I was surprised you and Dave are saying paris blues is one of the best beat ballads of all time, not totally agreeing with you but everyone to their own opinion.
If thats the case i am saying the drifter is one of my best beat ballads.
Billy

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The Drifter a Beat ballad?

Great soul tune, lacking beat though

try playing them and you'll see

Pete

February 10, 2005

tony middleton's 'paris blues' was produced and partly written by claus ogerman so i'd say it's an original tune, maybe they took the inspiration from the movie?
BTW, tony's "to the ends of the earth", that's a cover version of an old nat king cole song ...

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The Nat King Cole version is fantastic , I tracked it down after hearing Tony M's

February 10, 2005

"Paris Blues" . . . my all time top tune. I first heard it outside a St.Ives nighter in 1977. Played at that Ken Cox venue by a bloke named 'Ginger', his copy was a nice blue issue.

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Don't mention the apple mate,starts all sorts off around here....

Steve G · February 10, 2005

I heard he was posted there when he did a stint in the U.S. Army......

WOOF!

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Must be reading the same magazines as me - I heard that too.

Mike · February 10, 2005

Must be reading the same magazines as me - I heard that too.

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his time in europe brings thread back to films

dont think its a fairly well known track (could be wrong) , but he signs a more bluesy/jazz style track called "adam and eve" on a film called eva from 1962

set in italy and to tie in with previous posts, film is a french one by company called paris films or similar

tracks on soundtrack lp and poss on french ep

can push sound clip up if any wants listen

barry norman

February 10, 2005

his time in europe brings thread back to films
dont think its a fairly well known track (could be wrong) , but he signs a more bluesy/jazz style track called "adam and eve" on a film called eva from 1962
set in italy and to tie in with previous posts, film is a french one by company called paris films or similar
tracks on soundtrack lp and poss on french ep
can push sound clip up if any wants listen
barry norman

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Any further info on this film Mike?.......

Reason I ask is I worked in Spain for a while in the 80s & to cut a long story short,a film was made near where I worked in the early 60s(saw the stills-a few black actors) ,always wondered what this was,I know you said Italy but.............just a long shot

Billy Freemantle · February 10, 2005

A brilliant record. Whether it's Paris, France or Paris somewhere else doesn't really matter. Seeing as Tony was walking in the rain with his lady though, it very probably wasn't Paris, Texas. As the title reminds us , this is a modern day blues record. Records like this are really special because they link Soul with the roots of black American music.

I would love to hear old Tom Jones do this. As someone has often mentioned his version of 'I Can't Break the News to Myself' was really very good. I can remember the ex Mrs Feemantle arguing that it was really Tom Jones on 'To the Ends of the Earth'.

jocko · February 11, 2005

A brilliant record. Whether it's Paris, France or Paris somewhere else doesn't really matter. Seeing as Tony was walking in the rain with his lady though, it very probably wasn't Paris, Texas. As the title reminds us , this is a modern day blues record. Records like this are really special because they link Soul with the roots of black American music.

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Spot on billy, great record, ood point too. Think that started my love affair with the slower side, Slightly off topic last year in NY decided to go to Appollo Theater and walk up through Harlem to see the place, in one of the most run down areas there was a cafe called Paris Blues, it looked old enough to be from the 60's. Didnt want to take picture as it a very non touristy area,

Cheers

Jock

wendy · February 11, 2005

I dont 'get' Paris Blues. an old wigan boy told me the reason this record got big was because it had a drug reference in the title. - i guess he got his paris blues mixed up with the french ones

February 11, 2005

I dont 'get' Paris Blues. an old wigan boy told me the reason this record got big was because it had a drug reference in the title. - i guess he got his paris blues mixed up with the french ones

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I think Johnny Wiganer is telling you fibs Wendy, more likely to be as previously mentioned on this thread that his Paris blues were related to being stationed there with the us army , and cut adrift from his nearest and dearest

February 11, 2005

Nice record.

But people SPINNING to it? Eh? Wha?

Where? Why? When?

Doesn't strike me as the type of record you could spin round to!

I better get myself off to the Gymnastics thread I think...

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