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I totally agree with you too much trying to out do each other instead of listening to the public all we want is good danceable music it doesn't have to be rare. :lol::lol:

Yep totally agree with that :sleep3: sometimes it does seem that some people spend a lot of time getting involved in uneccessary politics or B******t and forget what its all about "THE MUSIC"....do have another pet hate, thats people who have sent me records i have purchased and cant even be bothered to put them in a paper cover let alone a card one no.gif .....tight or what! and has happened on more than a few occasions....hasten to add was'nt any fellow soul sourcers

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I've scrolled through all of this and there's one that nobody has mentioned.

Pissed blokes staggering around the dancefloor thinking they can dance, when they probably can't even when sober.

Another is, why do all the dj's play the same handful of tunes, especially at allnighters where yo end up with the the same thing being played 5 or 6 times by different dj's. Come on dj's you've got a box of a hundred or so records with you, for gods sake mix 'em up a bit.

p.s. to all who took the piss when I asked about soul-bags some time ago, I've got them, wear them and enjoy dancing in them. :sleep3:

Had a great night at Peterborough allnighter 23/6/07.

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Me pet h8 (this year!) is youngsters doing impressions of me from early/mid 70s - and when I say youngsters I mean late 20s/early 30s :lol:

Seriously tho I see the politics & egos coming back and that ain't good - for any1 unsure.gif

Lets ALL enjoy the best music/mates/memories

Leave your ego in the bin by the door on entry PLEEZ :sleep3:

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The nail has been hit on its head. There are so many tunes £50 and under that never get played out. At the end of the day "its whats in the groove that counts" whether its a £10 or £500 pound tune is irrelevant. In fact some big money tunes I dont rate that much and I like all styles of soul.

Remember being at a Ritz nighter in the 90s, not sure if it was a Rarest of the Rare night, but there were definately some big guns on the roster that night dropping some big rare tunes.....Dave Evison comes on and starts his set with these immortal words......" This record costs a fiver and it's f**king brilliant " :sleep3: .....made me smile, but I thought good on you Dave.

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I've scrolled through all of this and there's one that nobody has mentioned.

Pissed blokes staggering around the dancefloor thinking they can dance, when they probably can't even when sober.

Another is, why do all the dj's play the same handful of tunes, especially at allnighters where yo end up with the the same thing being played 5 or 6 times by different dj's. Come on dj's you've got a box of a hundred or so records with you, for gods sake mix 'em up a bit.

p.s. to all who took the piss when I asked about soul-bags some time ago, I've got them, wear them and enjoy dancing in them. :sleep3:

Had a great night at Peterborough allnighter 23/6/07.

the reason this happens is because of the obsession of keeping the dance floor full. dj's have to play the same ole same ole because most so called soul fans sit straight down if they don't know the tune, you just watch next time you go out play something lesser known all sit down , put on prince phillip mitchell all start dancing. so the problem lies with the crowd. NOT IN ALL CASES try some more adventurous up front places

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the reason this happens is because of the obsession of keeping the dance floor full. dj's have to play the same ole same ole because most so called soul fans sit straight down if they don't know the tune, you just watch next time you go out play something lesser known all sit down , put on prince phillip mitchell all start dancing. so the problem lies with the crowd. NOT IN ALL CASES try some more adventurous up front places

I agree wholeheartedly with this, I consider myself a dancer, unless I get me head in a record box first rolleyes.gif , and when I'm on the floor the beat and rythm will keep me there as long as I can keep up with it :sleep3: when I first started this thing I didn't know nowt, but it didn't stop me dancing.

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the reason this happens is because of the obsession of keeping the dance floor full. dj's have to play the same ole same ole because most so called soul fans sit straight down if they don't know the tune, you just watch next time you go out play something lesser known all sit down , put on prince phillip mitchell all start dancing. so the problem lies with the crowd. NOT IN ALL CASES try some more adventurous up front places

Admittedly Mr darcy there is a certain element of keeping the dancers happy by playing tunes that you know will get the peeps dancing. But once the dancing is underway and you've got them up, isn't it better to put a few tunes on that as the chap up there putting them on, you hope that they will keep them up and dancing throughout and that may be appreciated(when the scene IMHO is primarilly a dance culture). I have paid some silly prices for tunes that i seriously wanted, but in the same token i have paid very small amounts (i.e. a few $'s) for tunes that i would certainly dance to and hope that others would dance to also. However if the tracks chosen by the chap putting the vinyl on haven't got people dancing then what is incorrect with putting a well known dancer on to get them up again and dancing and then try again with something else once the dancing is underway again. I am not suggesting for one moment that this comes down to educating, but as you are well aware and have stated on previous occasions, there are thousands of absolutely brilliant tracks available that dont get the airing they deserve because punters dont know them. I am constantly being amazed by tunes that i hear and am always learning. IMHO i believe that a healthy balance between the two factors (well known and not so) is possibly the key, not an entire evening dedicated to one or the other.

For instance i have just heard Gene Burks "You got it". I personally have never heard it before, and i believe its brilliant and would certainly dance to it should it be played out. Now i'd imagine that the tune has more than likely been played inumerous times elsewhere, by infanitely more capable DJ's than myself( not that i class my self as i DJ par se), but i haven't heard it. So consequently i shall endeavour to get a copy and play it when i am doing a spot somewhere and see how it goes down. If the track doesn't work, and god only knows why it shouldn't,i wouldn't give up on it, i will continue to play it to try and get a good reaction to it. But i will sandwich it between two other tracks that i know people will dance to that are of the same sort of feel.

I have probably made NO sense in my post whatsoever, but i do feel that there is nothing wrong with playing some tunes to keep people dancing but playing others in a set to hopefully get them also appreciated.

With regards

Kev Such

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They're not dancing, they're tripping over the bloddy wires. How many d.j.'s do you know who can dance??

Sean Chapman......brill DJ great dancer!!!!

Mace........when hes not too drunk :sleep3:

Scotty.... when not djing always on the dancefloor

and thats without thinking about it!!!! But my biggest pet hate is peeps who moan about the scene! just get on with it and enjoy because there will come a time when yr too old to do so!!!!!!!!

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I speak as a bog standard soul lover and by that i mean i'm am not a DJ or a promoter or serious collector but just a girl who loves the music and loves to dance. I travel around the country sometimes revisiting fav places and other times trying out new ones.

INVHO for what it's worth I dance to the feel and beat not the rareity or the familiarity of the tune. I like to hear 30% well played classics 40% familiar tunes and 30% never heard before, well not in my memory anyway which is flaggin these days. I love to hear new tunes, thats what keeps the scene interesting.

Anyway lost the thread....

My pet hates are the same as others namely drinks on the dancefloor and people standing chatting on the dance floor...no surprise there...but also people who think a record is fantastic just coz it's rare. Sometimes it's rare for a very good reason...It's c**p! Also people who take the piss if you like something commercial and overplayed.

Mind you I'm guilty of that as i hate 'Do I love you', sit down on principle when it's played and berrate anyone who even taps their foot to it so maybe i sould remove the mote from mine own eye!!!! LOL

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Negative folk...Some just lurk on the forum waiting to join in on a feeding frezy of bitterness..Oh f!ck it here goes...

Anything but dancing on a dancefloor....

Cardboard gangsters,(thanks for that Hammy)...Many blokes who think they are Scarface...Most of these lurk in dark corners with the other back stabbing bas*ards,record cheats,ego promoters,bootleg bill,thugs,4 faced sour cu*ts,liars,shady record dealers who aint ever heard of the word smile,pimps,hookers and donkey porn merchants,the big time promoter who can talk out the mouth to 3 people at once and tell them all a different story.....Just a few to get me started on a Monday after the weekend... :lol:

Them smug djs/collectors who tell you ' don't bother looking,its rocking horse shite rare' when you ask about the certain rare tune...You find one for $15 dollars and tell mr personality in front of his mates who also have small body parts between the legs wicked.gif

The promoters who tell you that the place was rocking and packed to the rafters,only to find out that that it was like Victor Meldrews living room...

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And negative people :lol: ,its just a Monday thing moment for me..

Peace and Love to all the good folk...Stay in the light and away from them dark dark corners... :sleep3:

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The promoters who tell you that the place was rocking and packed to the rafters,only to find out that that it was like Victor Meldrews living room...

good one, like the review on soul source being nothing like the event you went to! Have seen a few over time, bet we all have!

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BLIMEY !!!!!!!!!! FANCY A PINT STEVE?? LIGHTEN THE MOOD A BIT? :sleep3: MUST HAVE BEEN A CRAP WEEKEND !!!! CHIN UP SIR !!!

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Negative folk...Some just lurk on the forum waiting to join in on a feeding frezy of bitterness..Oh f!ck it here goes...

Anything but dancing on a dancefloor....

Cardboard gangsters,(thanks for that Hammy)...Many bald headed clowns(and some with) blokes who think they are Scarface...Most of these lurk in dark corners with the other back stabbing bas*ards,record cheats,ego promoters,bootleg bill,thugs,4 faced sour cu*ts,liars,shady record dealers who aint ever heard of the word smile,pimps,hookers and donkey porn merchants,the big time promoter who can talk out the mouth to 3 people at once and tell them all a different story.....Just a few to get me started on a Monday after the weekend... :lol:

Them smug djs/collectors who tell you ' don't bother looking,its rocking horse shite rare' when you ask about the certain rare tune...You find one for $15 dollars and tell mr personality in front of his mates who also have small body parts between the legs wicked.gif

The promoters who tell you that the place was rocking and packed to the rafters,only to find out that that it was like Victor Meldrews living room...

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And negative people :lol: ,its just a Monday thing moment for me..

Peace and Love to all the good folk...Stay in the light and away from them dark dark corners... :sleep3:

Do i have to stay away from the donkey porn as well Stevie ?

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sad.gif I feel very depressed now. Its raining too, the days are getting shorter and winter is on its way. thmbdn.gif

Oh dear, what's happened to Paradise Island Stu ? Look on the bright side - you'll see a lot more of your mate Gordon Brown now :sleep3: .

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INVHO for what it's worth I dance to the feel and beat not the rareity or the familiarity of the tune. I like to hear 30% well played classics 40% familiar tunes and 30% never heard before, well not in my memory anyway which is flaggin these days. I love to hear new tunes, thats what keeps the scene interesting.

Excellent. I think that could well be the winning formula. Top form and well sectioned.

My pet hate is, Slating others for doing whatever the music makes you feel like doing, i.e wearing, dance style etc.... best thing about scene is "its individualistic in an umbillical way".

Regards

Kev.

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Negative folk...Some just lurk on the forum waiting to join in on a feeding frezy of bitterness..Oh f!ck it here goes...

Anything but dancing on a dancefloor....

Cardboard gangsters,(thanks for that Hammy)...Many bald headed clowns(and some with) blokes who think they are Scarface...Most of these lurk in dark corners with the other back stabbing bas*ards,record cheats,ego promoters,bootleg bill,thugs,4 faced sour cu*ts,liars,shady record dealers who aint ever heard of the word smile,pimps,hookers and donkey porn merchants,the big time promoter who can talk out the mouth to 3 people at once and tell them all a different story.....Just a few to get me started on a Monday after the weekend... :lol:

Them smug djs/collectors who tell you ' don't bother looking,its rocking horse shite rare' when you ask about the certain rare tune...You find one for $15 dollars and tell mr personality in front of his mates who also have small body parts between the legs wicked.gif

The promoters who tell you that the place was rocking and packed to the rafters,only to find out that that it was like Victor Meldrews living room...

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And negative people :thumbsup: ,its just a Monday thing moment for me..

Peace and Love to all the good folk...Stay in the light and away from them dark dark corners... :sleep3:

:ohmy::P:(

Not a descenting voice in the house :lol:

Cheer up Steve, it could be worse Huddersfield could be getting a crook for an owner and a manager with all the charisma of a rock. :lol:

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Admittedly Mr darcy there is a certain element of keeping the dancers happy by playing tunes that you know will get the peeps dancing. But once the dancing is underway and you've got them up, isn't it better to put a few tunes on that as the chap up there putting them on, you hope that they will keep them up and dancing throughout and that may be appreciated(when the scene IMHO is primarilly a dance culture). I have paid some silly prices for tunes that i seriously wanted, but in the same token i have paid very small amounts (i.e. a few $'s) for tunes that i would certainly dance to and hope that others would dance to also. However if the tracks chosen by the chap putting the vinyl on haven't got people dancing then what is incorrect with putting a well known dancer on to get them up again and dancing and then try again with something else once the dancing is underway again. I am not suggesting for one moment that this comes down to educating, but as you are well aware and have stated on previous occasions, there are thousands of absolutely brilliant tracks available that dont get the airing they deserve because punters dont know them. I am constantly being amazed by tunes that i hear and am always learning. IMHO i believe that a healthy balance between the two factors (well known and not so) is possibly the key, not an entire evening dedicated to one or the other.

For instance i have just heard Gene Burks "You got it". I personally have never heard it before, and i believe its brilliant and would certainly dance to it should it be played out. Now i'd imagine that the tune has more than likely been played inumerous times elsewhere, by infanitely more capable DJ's than myself( not that i class my self as i DJ par se), but i haven't heard it. So consequently i shall endeavour to get a copy and play it when i am doing a spot somewhere and see how it goes down. If the track doesn't work, and god only knows why it shouldn't,i wouldn't give up on it, i will continue to play it to try and get a good reaction to it. But i will sandwich it between two other tracks that i know people will dance to that are of the same sort of feel.

I have probably made NO sense in my post whatsoever, but i do feel that there is nothing wrong with playing some tunes to keep people dancing but playing others in a set to hopefully get them also appreciated.

With regards

Kev Such

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when l go to what l call serious soul nights usually oop north this is where I expect to hear a greater variety of soul music and pretty much always do, not just rare stuff but underplated and unknown. the reason for this is because the guy's playing these tunes are long time record COLLECTORS they buy records to COLLECT dj'ing is secondary to them, whether they pay 5k or £5 for a tune . this is a general misconception on this site that these fellas only buy rare expensive tunes to dj with. l know quite a few of em and to a man whatever they pay is because they want the tune in their collection.Some fine examples are KITCH , DEAN ANDERSON ,BUTCH ,CLIFF CAMFIELD, DICKY WATT, PAUL SADOT,AND CLIFF STEELE and quite a few more.

You by your own admission like sadly a lot of folk these days are there to DJ only and probably buy tunes soley for this purpose only

hence your point of view

regards terry

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when the music's too loud it gives me a headache and they don't make them like they used to.....oooo and the price of records these days....I remember when ........ :lol:

Now Now ...dear...you know how grumpy you get when you run short of your Horlicks and Complain..... :sleep3:thumbsup.gif ....Delxxxx

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Negative folk...Some just lurk on the forum waiting to join in on a feeding frezy of bitterness..Oh f!ck it here goes...

Anything but dancing on a dancefloor....

Cardboard gangsters,(thanks for that Hammy)...Many bald headed clowns(and some with) blokes who think they are Scarface...Most of these lurk in dark corners with the other back stabbing bas*ards,record cheats,ego promoters,bootleg bill,thugs,4 faced sour cu*ts,liars,shady record dealers who aint ever heard of the word smile,pimps,hookers and donkey porn merchants,the big time promoter who can talk out the mouth to 3 people at once and tell them all a different story.....Just a few to get me started on a Monday after the weekend... :lol:

Them smug djs/collectors who tell you ' don't bother looking,its rocking horse shite rare' when you ask about the certain rare tune...You find one for $15 dollars and tell mr personality in front of his mates who also have small body parts between the legs :lol:

The promoters who tell you that the place was rocking and packed to the rafters,only to find out that that it was like Victor Meldrews living room...

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And negative people :thumbsup: ,its just a Monday thing moment for me..

Peace and Love to all the good folk...Stay in the light and away from them dark dark corners... :sleep3:

hi there Steve,nice to see you've not lost it pal (RE: pm from a few months back :ohmy: ),

say it as it is, see you soon ,,KEV thumbsup.gif

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INVHO for what it's worth I dance to the feel and beat not the rareity or the familiarity of the tune. I like to hear 30% well played classics 40% familiar tunes and 30% never heard before, well not in my memory anyway which is flaggin these days. I love to hear new tunes, thats what keeps the scene interesting.

Excellent. I think that could well be the winning formula. Top form and well sectioned.

My pet hate is, Slating others for doing whatever the music makes you feel like doing, i.e wearing, dance style etc.... best thing about scene is "its individualistic in an umbillical way".

Regards

Kev.

BLOODY HELL KEV BET YOUR GREAT AT SCRABBLE :sleep3:

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Guest Matt Male

Sean Chapman......brill DJ great dancer!!!!

Mace........when hes not too drunk :unsure:

Scotty.... when not djing always on the dancefloor

More DJs who dance...

Rob Messer

Sam Evans

Mark Freeman

...and me. I'm on at the Coop in Nuneaton in August and i intend to dance to some of the records i play because i never hear them played out in a big room by anyone else, let's hope i can get back to the decks in time and lets hope i'm not the only one dancing.... :lol:

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You by your own admission like sadly a lot of folk these days are there to DJ only and probably buy tunes soley for this purpose only

hence your point of view

regards terry

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BLOODY HELL KEV BET YOUR GREAT AT SCRABBLE :lol:

Hello Jem.

I bet my parole officer would've been proud of me. See, who said a borstal upbringing can come to no good.

Regards mate.

Kev.

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The promoters who tell you that the place was rocking and packed to the rafters,only to find out that that it was like Victor Meldrews living room...

Fun you should write that Stevie, I went to a long running local soul night last month that was held in a huge sports hall only to find 20ish punters in there and this coming month it is advertised as one of the best soul nights in the country . Imagine travelling a100 mile or more round trip to find that.

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By the looks of it Steve your week can only get better mate so keep smiling and look forward to a better weekend this week,

Mine was great if its any consolation :lol:

and i wasnt in the dark never regions but that Martin (rbman) was i saw him with the rest of his mafia mob :ohmy: the dodgy looking man he is :unsure:

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People who hardly dance all night and then, when you've been on the floor for hours come and invade your personal space because (insert timeless classic of your choice) comes on. :unsure:

People who routinely slag off Russ Winstanley just 'cos it's become kind of expected that that's what die-hard soulies do.

People who still think women and young 'uns can't deejay.

People who worry more about what a tune is worth (or rather what it costs) than what it sounds like

Blokes who amble in to a soul night at 11.30 after a dozen Stellas in the alehouse and hit the dancefloor, sending all and sundry flying, only to retire with a John Barnes hamstring or asthma attack symptoms 90 seconds later

People who are never knowingly wrong.

Apart from that little lot I'm cool :lol:

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Guest Phil Richards

folks walking across the floor with beer in hands

too much talc

Northern soul vinyl snobbery ..if its northern you should be able to play it no matter how "played out " it is remember someone out there still loves it!!!! :lol:

Mandy happy smiling dancing soulie! :ohmy:

You are so right :unsure:

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Guest Phil Richards

Sean Chapman......brill DJ great dancer!!!!

Mace........when hes not too drunk :ohmy:

Scotty.... when not djing always on the dancefloor

and thats without thinking about it!!!! But my biggest pet hate is peeps who moan about the scene! just get on with it and enjoy because there will come a time when yr too old to do so!!!!!!!!

Mace dance is that a joke :lol::unsure::ohmy:

As for Scotty your right allways up on the floor

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people who think a record is fantastic just coz it's rare. Sometimes it's rare for a very good reason...It's c**p! Also people who take the piss if you like something commercial and overplayed.

Mind you I'm guilty of that as i hate 'Do I love you', sit down on principle when it's played and berrate anyone who even taps their foot to it so maybe i sould remove the mote from mine own eye!!!! LOL

XX

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Oh dear, what's happened to Paradise Island Stu ? Look on the bright side - you'll see a lot more of your mate Gordon Brown now :yes: .

I see that Billy Liar is possibly off to be a Middle East envoy, fantastic choice given his track record, cue a war with Iran within 2 years. Fortunately the US and UK economy are in such a bad state that I'm not sure that they could afford one. As for Gordo, Blair just stitched him up well and truly with this rejected EU constitution disguised as a treaty.

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Its Tuesday and the sun is shining :D ....Pet hates...Monday after a long weekend...Don't worry folks i aint lost it..I will always try and call it as it is,no matter what the day..Not sure how my reply to a topic became its own topic starter :yes: ,i was only replying in the pet hates topic already started..

Can't let the snakes in the grass get into the playground..

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record dealers who aint ever heard of the word smile

So true in some cases. Remember a mate telling me a classic story about this. Was at an allnighter many moons ago.

Went like this;

My mate: "Have you got that record Ain't a bit sorry, by Ben E King"?

Dealer (deadpan): "Ain't by Ben E King".

My mate: "Whose it by then"?

Dealer (still deadpan): "Dedications".

My mate: "Who"?

Dealer: "Dedications".

My mate: "You got it"?

Dealer (practically scowling) "No".

A little while later that night my mate managed to pick up a copy of said track. On passing by happy chappy dealer # 1, mate mentioned in a cheerful voice that he'd got that Dedications track. Dealer could barely looked up and gave scant acknowledgement.

Some people eh?

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Its Tuesday and the sun is shining :D ....Pet hates...Monday after a long weekend...Don't worry folks i aint lost it..I will always try and call it as it is,no matter what the day..Not sure how my reply to a topic became its own topic starter :yes: ,i was only replying in the pet hates topic already started..

Can't let the snakes in the grass get into the playground..

just goes to show you should allow yourself to wake up before posting stevie :(

mark

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Remember youth, action speaks louder than words. (VERBAL OR WRITTEN). Dont winge about things, confront them head on and take the consequences, or you end up just like the characters you describe. Its amazing how nice people can turn when you are looking them in the eye with something on your mind.

Ed

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Back to topic Steve,the one that i did not start :D ..Take the other stuff about Tony and Gordon to the freebasing :( .....

Oops! Sorry, I blame Craig.... :yes:

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Only really got one pet hate as far as soul is concerned...

Looking at old sales lists from Soulbowl and JMs etc from back in the day and kicking myself for not buying every single 45 on there when I should have. So many records......so little time....(or money depending on what time of the month it is! :yes: )

Regards,

Dave

www.theresthatbeat.com

www.hitsvillesoulclub.com

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Remember youth, action speaks louder than words. (VERBAL OR WRITTEN). Dont winge about things, confront them head on and take the consequences, or you end up just like the characters you describe. Its amazing how nice people can turn when you are looking them in the eye with something on your mind.

Ed

Youth :yes: ..Thanks for that..I have sent you a pm to talk about the points you have brought forward...Like i said,my message was a reply to pet hates and got put out on its own,can it be merged at all,no point having the two topics going...

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Steve,

thank god its tuesday, the rain has stopped, I can see the garden and the garage floor now the floods have subsided here. We got health, good mates and family that love us, and music that means so much. All we need now is for the sun to shine and we will have a summer. I hope those Monday blues have gone like the bloody rain down the drain. :yes: Love and peace to you. Dawny. x

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