Guest TonyR Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 About 12 years ago got hold of a copy of Nancy Butts on Flaming Arrow, I Want To Hold Your Hand (How I Get Lonely). Price was relatively cheap as a box of them had just turned up. If my memory serves me right the "talk" at the time was that either the producer/record owner or Nancy herself had uncovered a box stashed away or something like that. Anybody got any more information on his rumour? Anybody an idea of current value and availability? May have a copy for sale in the near future. Regards Tony
Guest Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 About 12 years ago got hold of a copy of Nancy Butts on Flaming Arrow, I Want To Hold Your Hand (How I Get Lonely). Price was relatively cheap as a box of them had just turned up. If my memory serves me right the "talk" at the time was that either the producer/record owner or Nancy herself had uncovered a box stashed away or something like that. Anybody got any more information on his rumour? Anybody an idea of current value and availability? May have a copy for sale in the near future. Regards Tony Hi Tony, I'll start you off, no doubt there'll be others on here who can fill you in with all the finer details.....I got my copy in the mid 90s too when a lot turned up courtesy of the daughter of the producer/record label owner, who found them in his garage when she was clearing his house after his death.....now that's the story I heard, think there were copies of others on the label too.... Derek.
Chalky Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 (edited) I remember seeing this in the late 80's. Had it on tape since then as well. Guy first played this and certain if memory serves me correctly that he got it from label owner, my guess mid 80's around the same time he got Joseph Webster which he played at Stafford. Edited June 16, 2007 by chalky
Chalky Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 (edited) There was a rumour that it was never released as well and pressed solely due to demand on these shores. Like you say back then it was cheap as plenty of copies to be had. Edited June 16, 2007 by chalky
Guest TonyR Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Thanks for the replies so far. Your story, Derek, about the box in the garage following the producer's unfortunate demise does rings some bells with me mate. On the other hand Chalky's info about it being pressed for UK is also possible. Anybody else able to shed any light. Is this a hard find? Does it hold any value? Thanks so far guys
Chalky Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Thanks for the replies so far. Your story, Derek, about the box in the garage following the producer's unfortunate demise does rings some bells with me mate. On the other hand Chalky's info about it being pressed for UK is also possible. Anybody else able to shed any light. Is this a hard find? Does it hold any value? Thanks so far guys Pretty sure all or the vast majority came form the owner (Eugene Davis) or his immediate family.
Garethx Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Only released in the late 1980s, although it's a late 60s recording. Practically every copy is on this side of the Atlantic. My guess is that only a couple of hundred were pressed and all are nestling in collections, hence the relatively high price. I offered one for sale on here in February at £110 and could have sold it many times over. I am led to believe Guy Hennigan was the first dj to play the record and that no original 60s acetate exists.
ShorterSoul Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Like most people, picked mine up in the 80's for the princely sum of £15..the guy i bought it from had a few of these, i understand he got them from a relative of the singer or producer.. great tune
Chalky Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Only released in the late 1980s, although it's a late 60s recording. Practically every copy is on this side of the Atlantic. My guess is that only a couple of hundred were pressed and all are nestling in collections, hence the relatively high price. I offered one for sale on here in February at £110 and could have sold it many times over. I am led to believe Guy Hennigan was the first dj to play the record and that no original 60s acetate exists. if memory serves me correctly from topic on RSF Gareth, it was said 300 copies done.
Guest TonyR Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 A-ha. I'm beginning to get the picture. Was never really sure on the history of this tune and the relative "newness" of the appearance of the label always belied the age of the tune so I wasn't sure if it was a "moody" pressing or bootleg. Mine looks exactly the same as Shortersoul's scan so I guess it's one of 300 described by Chalky. My God you lot certainly know your stuff!!! Cheers guys. Tony
Godzilla Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Does it really fetch a ton these days? Should I stick mine up on here now to beat the flurry Godz
Chalky Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Does it really fetch a ton these days? Should I stick mine up on here now to beat the flurry Godz I've seen it at £150.
Baz Atkinson Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 ITS £150 in the book and that is the 4th edition,its agreat tune imho,remember guy spinning it mid eighties,really love letter full of tears also a track which never seems to get regognition nice crossover tune. BAZ A.
Russ Vickers Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I remember seeing this in the late 80's. Had it on tape since then as well. Guy first played this and certain if memory serves me correctly that he got it from label owner, my guess mid 80's around the same time he got Joseph Webster which he played at Stafford. Was played covered up as Eula Cooper, if memoery serves me right, Guy played it at the 100 Club in the early 9ts, still covered as EC, it was new to me then, altho' the genuine title was probably an open secret. Im sure some of these turned up in a local record store in Essex or some such place................maybe me, memory aint what it was ????. Russ
ShorterSoul Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Was played covered up as Eula Cooper, if memoery serves me right, Guy played it at the 100 Club in the early 9ts, still covered as EC, it was new to me then, altho' the genuine title was probably an open secret. Im sure some of these turned up in a local record store in Essex or some such place................maybe me, memory aint what it was ????. Russ Yes Russ, you're right about that, mine came from a record shop in Westcliff, the guy had a few copies at the time..
Chalky Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Was played covered up as Eula Cooper, if memoery serves me right, Guy played it at the 100 Club in the early 9ts, still covered as EC, it was new to me then, altho' the genuine title was probably an open secret. Im sure some of these turned up in a local record store in Essex or some such place................maybe me, memory aint what it was ????. Russ Could never remember the cover up name Russ. Saying that I've always known this as who it really is right from the 80's.
Guest franky m Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 About 12 years ago got hold of a copy of Nancy Butts on Flaming Arrow, I Want To Hold Your Hand (How I Get Lonely). Price was relatively cheap as a box of them had just turned up. If my memory serves me right the "talk" at the time was that either the producer/record owner or Nancy herself had uncovered a box stashed away or something like that. Anybody got any more information on his rumour? Anybody an idea of current value and availability? May have a copy for sale in the near future. Regards Tony Hi Tony , the story of the Nancy Butts 45 , was that a non northern soul friend of mine was married to the daughter of record producer Eugene Davis , and on one of his holidays to detroit in the mid eightys , he brought back a box of 70-80 copys of i want hold your hand , and 3 copys of joseph webster on crow , and a couple of other bits , these ended up in Carmel records , southend on sea , and i think Rod Dearlove brought what was left . they were not pressed for the uk market , and now seen quite thin on the ground sadly Eugene davis passed away earlier this year , hope this is of help . franky m
Guest TonyR Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Thanks for the update Franky. That seems to be closer to my memory of the story of how this fantastic record landed on our shores. Cheers mate Tony
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