Guest Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 Hey everybody, I've been lurking here for a while, but this is my first time posting. There's an incredible wealth of knowledge on this board that I'm humbled to be a small part of. So, let me preface my question with a 'thank you' to everyone who helps make this forum possible. Okay, I found a copy of Rubin's "You've been away" on Kapp last weekend in Detroit. It's the white 'radio station copy' version which made me immediately assume that it it's a bootleg, even though I found it in in a shop that VERY rarely sells bootlegs or reissues. What I'm wondering is if someone can tell me how to differentiate the original from the boot? thank you kindly all, -a
Guest Awake 502 Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 Hey everybody, I've been lurking here for a while, but this is my first time posting. There's an incredible wealth of knowledge on this board that I'm humbled to be a small part of. So, let me preface my question with a 'thank you' to everyone who helps make this forum possible. Okay, I found a copy of Rubin's "You've been away" on Kapp last weekend in Detroit. It's the white 'radio station copy' version which made me immediately assume that it it's a bootleg, even though I found it in in a shop that VERY rarely sells bootlegs or reissues. What I'm wondering is if someone can tell me how to differentiate the original from the boot? thank you kindly all, -a link What colour is the large "A" on the "You've been away" side ? Should be red on the original...
Guest Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) What colour is the large "A" on the "You've been away" side ? Should be red on the original... link surprisingly enough, it's red. The WOL also seems to make a case for it's originality. Thanks, Awake!! Edited February 1, 2005 by Soul Sleuth
Guest Trevski Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) The WOL also seems to make a case for it's originality link Well done, nice find! Don't ever be fooled by WOL as a sign of originality tho'! People have been doing that to 'disguise' boots (and more besides) since the beginning! Edited February 1, 2005 by Trevski
MarkWhiteley Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 Oh no definately a bootleg, I'll give you a tenna for it
Guest Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 Oh no definately a bootleg, I'll give you a tenna for it link I suppose you would be the authority on boots. What's your mailing address? I'll send it wrapped in a nappy post-haste.
Guest Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 Well done, nice find! Don't ever be fooled by WOL as a sign of originality tho'! People have been doing that to 'disguise' boots (and more besides) since the beginning! link Thanks Trevski, I'll admit it was a bit of a surprise. And yes, I suppose it was a bit naive of me to presume people would be above spurious label markings.
Guest Trevski Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 (edited) Soulsleuth I see you are now selling the same item on ebay, using the knowledge you gleaned from us here! https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=4072141879 I for one do not like this kind of behavior. Turn up on SS asking a seemingly 'innocent' question, then use the info to profit by! People have done this in the past, and recieved what can only be desribed as a good verbal kicking! This is not the 'done thing' Soulsleuth! First kick from me! PS we are the "kind people" at "soul source", not "soul service", altho' we certainly provided you with a service, didn't we? Edited February 2, 2005 by Trevski
Gasher Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 :diablo: :graywanker: take that consider yourself not one of us the gasher
Godzilla Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 Soulsleuth I see you are now selling the same item on ebay, using the knowledge you gleaned from us here! https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=4072141879 I for one do not like this kind of behavior. Turn up on SS asking a seemingly 'innocent' question, then use the info to profit by! People have done this in the past, and recieved what can only be desribed as a good verbal kicking! This is not the 'done thing' Soulsleuth! First kick from me! PS we are the "kind people" at "soul source", not "soul service", altho' we certainly provided you with a service, didn't we? link Good job he fell for that bogus info about the red 'A' making it an original eh Trevski? Godz
Guest Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Soulsleuth I see you are now selling the same item on ebay, using the knowledge you gleaned from us here! https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=4072141879 I for one do not like this kind of behavior. Turn up on SS asking a seemingly 'innocent' question, then use the info to profit by! People have done this in the past, and recieved what can only be desribed as a good verbal kicking! This is not the 'done thing' Soulsleuth! First kick from me! PS we are the "kind people" at "soul source", not "soul service", altho' we certainly provided you with a service, didn't we? link You're right, Trevski, and I'm not above admitting that I deserve whatever abuse the board dishes out. I apologize for the parasitic nature of my first post, I agree that I should have made my intentions clear from the start. Fact is, I'm at a point in my life right now, having just graduated from uni, where I'm jobless (thank you, GWB) and in considerable debt. Presently, my sole source of income is the sale of my record collection, which quite frankly sucks. I like my records. I like them a lot (more, some would say, than is probably healthy). In any case, last week I found a record that, if real, I couldn't afford to keep. A year ago the Rubin 45 would have been nestled snugly in my 45 box, and you wouldn't have heard a peep out of me, because honestly the original/boot question wouldn't have mattered to me enough to pursue. As it stands, I'm poor and I had to find out. I'm sorry for being so dodgy about it all, it was a lame thing to do. -the jerk :head positioned on chopping block:
Gasher Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Soulsleuth I now see you are capable of owning up to your underhand, dastardly,vile,knowledge sucking attrocities. at least you held up your paw and came clean in the end ,unlike some who would try and bullshit there way out of it. I admire a person who has the balls to admit their wrong doings. The gasher
Guest Trevski Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 (edited) Consider yourself soundly chastised and, for your honest appology, forgiven. You have done a lot more than some that come on here after info. Respect Now for your pennance: Go find me a nice, cheap copy of Margaret Little! Edited February 3, 2005 by Trevski
Guest milo761847 Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 surprisingly enough, it's red. The WOL also seems to make a case for it's originality. Thanks, Awake!! I bought this cop recently. E-bay from america John Teffteller but the red A is slightly offset. Could you please inform of any deadwax stamp. Regards, Greg
Tai-pan Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 I bought this cop recently. E-bay from america John Teffteller but the red A is slightly offset. Could you please inform of any deadwax stamp. Regards, Greg Indeed Greg, a new wave of boots with red A, not offset correctly AND red colour on bright pinkish hint red as opposed to 'cherry red'. Caution: check dead wax. Well caught mate!
Reg Scott Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) Indeed Greg, a new wave of boots with red A, not offset correctly AND red colour on bright pinkish hint red as opposed to 'cherry red'. Caution: check dead wax. Well caught mate! The offer of a tenner earlier in the thread may be now reduced to $ dollars rather than £GBP. The Devil's in the Deadwax Detail ! Regards.. BTW Just noticed the listing has been removed from the Bay. Now either somebody on here made an underhand off bay offer or somebody did find a counterfeit copy. You make up your mind as to which one of these is most likely Edited October 8, 2009 by ClearVinyl
Anoraks Corner Posted October 8, 2009 Posted October 8, 2009 No deadwax machine stamp on the US WD copies...which are styrene with K-10992-1 scratched in the a.side and K-10993-2 in the b.side. (The 'A' is more pink than red if you are curious?!)
Guest Gav67 Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Help required Just picked up a copy from E bay with matrix numbers K-10992-3 and K-10993-3. Looking at the previous posts I am not convinced its an original. There's another identical one on e bay at the moment. The seller confirms it's an original but can someone confirm this is a pressing and I'll go about getting my money back!! Cheers
Guest Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) Help required Just picked up a copy from E bay with matrix numbers K-10992-3 and K-10993-3. Looking at the previous posts I am not convinced its an original. There's another identical one on e bay at the moment. The seller confirms it's an original but can someone confirm this is a pressing and I'll go about getting my money back!! Cheers The seller says this is a "new original copY" WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN! I think it would be as well to steer clear of this seller, the record looks too clean to me and if he has multiple copies........... When I get my copy back at the weekend I will compare and contrast and see if I can shed some light for you. Sean Edited January 28, 2010 by Guest
Ged Parker Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Help required Just picked up a copy from E bay with matrix numbers K-10992-3 and K-10993-3. Looking at the previous posts I am not convinced its an original. There's another identical one on e bay at the moment. The seller confirms it's an original but can someone confirm this is a pressing and I'll go about getting my money back!! Cheers That's boot IMHO. The "-3" at the end of each matrix should be "-1" and "-2" respectively.
Guest Gav67 Posted January 28, 2010 Posted January 28, 2010 Thanks for the replies, think you're right. Even asked the seller to confirm it was original, said they only sell originals not re-issues! Here goes!
Guest Awake 502 Posted January 29, 2010 Posted January 29, 2010 New original ??? Does that mean a photocopied label of the original on a boot ?
Milo761847 Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 New original ??? Does that mean a photocopied label of the original on a boot ? Its an original i have the same record possibly from the same batch. The record was probably manufactured in a different part of the states. John Manship and John Tefteller both confirm it is a legitimate record.
Jerry Hipkiss Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Interesting that the Hesitations "I'm not built that way" 70's vinyl boot also uses a different suffix...K-10443-4, with K-10441-4 on the flip...
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