Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Deejays ...Do you only take a record off the shelf after its gone at a high price on auction or on a dealers list ? Could you play lots of cheap records or would that destroy your reputation like it did Sean Hampsey's ? ( only joking Sean I bought most of your spins ) Simon Edited June 12, 2007 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jimmy A Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 i think djs do.its to keep egos afloat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 i think djs do.its to keep egos afloat Obviously some jocks get cheap unknowns and push em ..Only a handfull of those about though ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I certainly seek out and play cheap records, plenty of lesser known even unknown to the majority of dancers. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Boogaloo Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 All I can say to this debate is 'Cheap as Chips'. We've got our next one in Aug. Warren Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I'd love to say price doesn't come into it, because it shouldn't, but there is some expectation at some venues that known but still rare records will be played certainly if you judge by the requests you get. Next friday at the Bitter Suite in Preston I'll be trying to play things few people know whatever the price. The following Saturday at Thorton Social Club in the 'rare' room, with the line up, some one-up-manship is bound to be on the cards but that won't stop me playing a couple of $5 unknowns (no doubt only to told how common they are and who played them first and where ). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shsdave Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Deejays ...Do you only take a record off the shelf after its gone at a high price on auction or on a dealers list ? Could you play lots of cheap records or would that destroy your reputation like it did Sean Hampsey's ? ( only joking Sean I bought most of your spins ) Simon I certainly think a lot of DJs lack any sort of initiative but do have big bank balances & so can buy the currently popular big plays or tips from mags or perhaps suggestions on here. They just don't have the gumption to play things that won't instantly pack the floor zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Nothing wrong with cheap records & as Chalky says there are actually loads of cheapies that the majority of people don't know, some of us don't have a reputation (at least not a good one ) so couldn't give a shit Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 Yes Chalky is a very interesting DJ .. Hes not on many places though is he ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I buy tunes i really want and its a complete gutter for me if it ends up being expensive as i would love all my tunes to be cheap, the feeling you get when you find a tune you really like and its a cheapy £5 etc is great but what a bummer when you find a tune to discover its a few hundred quid upwards, some cheapies sound like big tunes and visa versa, i think the problem is the not so good tunes that are bloody expensive and the DJ is just saying to the crowd i only play expensive tunes even if they are shite. price is a factor but not an answer to quality. Bearsy imvho of course Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mischief Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 what counts as a cheapie? under £50, £100 or is it less than £25? Just intrested in what people count as cheap... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 what counts as a cheapie? under £50, £100 or is it less than £25? Just intrested in what people count as cheap... I would say less than a single note of the royal mint £50, but then again thats a lot of dosh when you can buy a CD album for a tenner. about £20 tops give or take a few quid. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shsdave Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 what counts as a cheapie? under £50, £100 or is it less than £25? Just intrested in what people count as cheap... It's all relative really Mischief, to somebody on the dole anything is expensive. Not me by the way as I'm back amongst the tax payers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) what counts as a cheapie? under £50, £100 or is it less than £25? Just intrested in what people count as cheap... Depends , some people might say under £250 is cheap these days Edited June 12, 2007 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 what counts as a cheapie? under £50, £100 or is it less than £25? Just intrested in what people count as cheap... Less than £25 would qualify as cheap for me. I'd have loved to see the planned "everything less than £50" allnighter come off. so I guess the planner of this had anything less than £50 as a cheapie in their book. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 what counts as a cheapie? under £50, £100 or is it less than £25? Just intrested in what people count as cheap... I'd say anything less than £20 is probably classed as a cheapie thesedays. It used to be a fiver ! But then if you wade through Ebay / Record Fairs / Dealer Boxes at 45s sold or selling at less than a fiver you can on any given day find terrific SOUL 45s. Case in point this week - Percy Sledge Rainbow Road b/w Standing On The Mountain (UK Atlantic Demo) - £2.50 Inc. P&P........ Okay not a 'nighter' sound but then so what? Who's missing out? Hot Box dj's with a couple of hundred tunes or the armchair collector with several thousand soul 45s albeit not crammed full of 'big tickets'. Personal choice of course but I think if you let price/rarity dictate what you collect and/or play your missing out. Big time. Regards Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) I play stuff that I really like and believe the dance floor will like as well. Value has little to do with it, as it has never been a very good measurement of quality. I try where I can to visit venues I am going to dj at before the night I'm booked to get a feel for the venue, but where that is not possible, get there as early as possible to listen to the other dj's and watch the crowd. I try to ignore trends, whats hot etc and play from my heart. But there again, I've always lived in my own little world Edited June 12, 2007 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Yep you have played some cracking cheapies , over the years Dave ... Anacostia being a favourite and a Big record too !! Edited June 12, 2007 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest bish Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Yes Chalky is a very interesting DJ .. Hes not on many places though is he ? allways plays a great spot top dj is chalky cheers bish Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest bish Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Depends , some people might say under £250 is cheap these days yea but who are them people that say £250 is cheap these days to me its expensive to others who pay £1000 plus for a record its cheap Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 i'm having a feling of deja vu here. is this just the hot box thread just re-packaged ? My view is if you travel a long way you want rare sounds you can't hear at home or on CD's but also they must be quality sounds or else whats the point. Rarity alone is not enough. but having said that my memory from the yarmouth weekender was Joe Tex "All the heaven a man realy needs" so my arguement is flawed. I'll sit on the fence for this debate as I enjoy hearing the big money rarities but also enjoy a few lesser played ceapies thrown into the mix. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest vinylvixen Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) I've always lived in my own little world Dave, I'll come and live in it but there has to be cake I was going through some of my old Port 45s to put into my playbox - Carol Fran 'Anyday', Chris Towns Unit, Jets, Gees, Intrigues etc which I still class as 'cheapies'....most cost me 60p and then I saw Carol Fran on a list for £100. So my cheapies are now £100+ Which has meant that I've had to go out and buy more cheapies....Eddie Bo 'Every dog' was $35 last week and a couple at $10....so bit by bit I'm clawing back my 'cheapies' selection It's often been said that I'm cheap and now it's official Jo Edited June 12, 2007 by vinylvixen Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Yep you have played some cracking cheapies , over the years Dave ... Anacostia being a favourite and a Big record too !! and a few more Persuaders-Trying to love two woman Mahattans-Crazy Johnny Gilliam-Room full of tears Robert Tenard-Gotta get goin 21st Century Ltd-Your smallest wish Gene Dozier-The best girl I ever had TSU Toronadoes-What good am I Willie Johnson-What am I going to do Four Sonics-If it wasn't for my baby Jimmy McCloud-The night the angles cried Al Perkins-Yes my goodness, yes Well they were cheap when I played them Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ruffsounds Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 There are some cracking cheapies out there just waiting to be played you just gotta have the balls to play them also loads of unknown or semi known tracks just waiting to be heard and if they get the dancefloor moving then i say play them, imo some £5 records can be as good if not better than some megabucks big tune its all about the confidence you have in the records themselves that matters. cheers Ruffsounds Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Dave, I'll come and live in it but there has to be cake Jo Yes and tea on the lawn on sundays. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 and a few more TSU Toronadoes-What good am I Al Perkins-Yes my goodness, yes Well they were cheap when I played them 2 Fabulous records and still under/around the £20 mark! And would certainly fit into that older chestnut 'If it was dog-rare, how much?' theory Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 and a few more Persuaders-Trying to love two woman Mahattans-Crazy Johnny Gilliam-Room full of tears Robert Tenard-Gotta get goin 21st Century Ltd-Your smallest wish Gene Dozier-The best girl I ever had TSU Toronadoes-What good am I Willie Johnson-What am I going to do Four Sonics-If it wasn't for my baby Jimmy McCloud-The night the angles cried Al Perkins-Yes my goodness, yes Well they were cheap when I played them Cool list . how much did you aquire Pyramid for Dave ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Cool list . how much did you aquire Pyramid for Dave ? That was a Tim Ash/Butch £10 special. It came with abunch of things and the comment 'Here Dave have listen to this lot, you like left field stuff' Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Trevski Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) I shall be playing tunes from £15-£500+ at the Harold on Saturday. Price and quality are not the same thing Edited June 12, 2007 by Trevski Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark B Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Isnt price just relative to how much that person earns, i have never paid more than £300 for any thing i play and that was only one record, i tend to spend as little as i can and try to get records as cheaply as possible, if it is too expensive i sell some to pay for it or trade some. so most of my records are cheapish back to the subject i would say for me from 10 to 50 is cheap but that is just me. mark Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MARTIN SNOW Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I never take out records of a value more than about £20 to any venue simply because I wouldnt want the risk of them being damaged or stolen. Although I am predominantly an 80's collector/DJ, I would never consider taking a record such as Hipnotic, Rome Jefferies or Jagg out of my house, largely because I know from the minute I put it in the car to the moment I had left the venue I would not be relaxed. Anyone else identify with that ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) I never take out records of a value more than about £20 to any venue simply because I wouldnt want the risk of them being damaged or stolen. Although I am predominantly an 80's collector/DJ, I would never consider taking a record such as Hipnotic, Rome Jefferies or Jagg out of my house, largely because I know from the minute I put it in the car to the moment I had left the venue I would not be relaxed. Anyone else identify with that ? Yeah I had a box of 100 Northern and Modern titles , at the airport in Copenhagen and securtiy walked off with it ..I started to sweat and felt a bit sick They came back and said "Ahhh old records Sir " Edited June 12, 2007 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mak Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I tend to look out for the cheapies , they're the ones people seem to pass over. Last week i had chance to obtain LILLIAN DUPREE - I'VE GOT A SHEILD ROUND MY HEART .Not at an big price but instead I got FRED HUGHES - WALK BACK TO YOU and BILLY STEWART - CRAZY ABOUT YOU BABY both extremely cheap . I must say IMHO BOTH are as good in there own rights as LILLIAN DUPREE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Polyvelts Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I play stuff that I really like and believe the dance floor will like as well. Value has little to do with it, as it has never been a very good measurement of quality. I try where I can to visit venues I am going to dj at before the night I'm booked to get a feel for the venue, but where that is not possible, get there as early as possible to listen to the other dj's and watch the crowd. I try to ignore trends, whats hot etc and play from my heart. But there again, I've always lived in my own little world Well said that man !! As the legend goes . . . . Its what's in the groove that counts ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Could you play lots of cheap records or would that destroy your reputation like it did Sean Hampsey's ? ( only joking Sean I bought most of your spins ) Simon That really made me smile, Simon. I trust you're still enjoying them? But you're right. I took a helluva lotta stick (or was it sh#t?) at the time. Nevertheless, I'm privileged to have a reputation as the nighter Jock that bucked the 'Rare Soul Only' trend. It gave me the chance to call upon an abundance of really good records. To be honest, I always felt I was more of a Soul DJ than purely a 'Northern' one. Good to see that in recent times there's a lot more people that feel the same. But... it's been a long time coming! Sean (Reputation Almost Intact) Edited June 12, 2007 by Sean Hampsey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mark shepherd Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 ive only been collecting a couple of years, so i dont fall into to the category of " bought it for 1 groat 40 years ago" unfortunately. so i have had to cough up for records i really like, benny harper / martiniques / kings of soul. but my favourite 2 records at the moment are - major lance / story of my life ( bought a number of years ago ) & tyrone davis / can i change my mind ( bought yesterday) i would play them out no problem Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mark shepherd Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 forgot to say, i think the DJ who plays a set littered with cheapies that sit nicely alongside hot box records, gets my vote and surely this would enhance his reputation Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Yes Chalky is a very interesting DJ .. Hes not on many places though is he ? allways plays a great spot top dj is chalky cheers bish Why thanks the pair of you My last set I played out.... CL Blast - What Can I Do - United Harold Melvin - Hot Chills Cold Thrills & Fever - Dash Contours - Jealousy Chuck Henley - Broken Hearted - Coach Sounds Four - Keep On Lovin' - Saintmo Aristocrats - Loving You Is Mellow - Unissued Act 1 - Goodbye Love (We're Through) - Spring Bill Sampson - Stronger and Wronger - Motion Frankie Sanders - Take Another Look - Juana JJ Daniels - Mr Lonesome - SureShot Ad Libs - Love Keeps Knocking At My Heart Patrice Holloway - Sugar Coated Words Oliver Norman - Drowning In My Own Despair - Decca Kell Osborne - Can't Outsmart A Woman - Loma Dealers - You Got It - Big Bunny Larry chubby Reynolds - Sweet Tooth - Tri Spin Soul City - I Shot For The Moon - Mercury Ernest Sparks - I'll Be Glad - Soul O Sonic Sugar Lumps - Won't You Help Me - Uptown Jean Wells - With My Love - Calla Mary Hunt - I Want To Love And Be Loved - Soul Mate Ollie Jackson - Just A Little While - Pepper Wallace Johnson - Baby Go Ahead - Sansu Meditations - It's Wrong To Fight - Checker Faithful Wonders - Ole John (Behold Thy Mother) - Checker Benny Latimore - Girl I Got News For You - Dade Chris Morgan - Who Am I - Bell Composers - Chances Go Round - Complex 3 Gerri Daimond - Only You - Counterpart Tina Florence - Too Much For Me Baby - Apt something for most there I reckon, including plenty of cheapies!! As for not about at many venues, It's something I don't really worry about, I did bookings week after week some years ago but these days I think too many promoters afraid to take a chance, they see what I have to say on here at times and think I will carry that over into my DJ sets and play to an empty floor for an hour or so if I get a booking great, I will try and play a varied set to suit the dancefloor, don't think I've had too many complaints in the past. But if I never DJ'ed again it wouldn't worry me, I'm a collector first and foremost. Edited June 12, 2007 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) As a teenager on the scene I noted down the rare ones , but I was glad Jocks played brilliant soul records I could aquire at the nighter or via Soul Bowl on a Monday morning .. after a little while I gave up chasing rare Northern and bought loads of cheap Modern soul and Unrare groove No regrets at all !! .. Edited June 12, 2007 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ncfc Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 As a teenager on the scene I noted down the rare ones , but I was glad Jocks played brilliant soul records I could aquire at the nighter or via Soul Bowl on a Monday morning .. after a little while I gave up chasing rare Northern and bought loads of cheap Modern soul and Unrare groove No regrets at all !! .. and we both had a full head of hair back then Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 and we both had a full head of hair back then Hhahahah also Keb had loads of hair and Soul Sam had some too , Im too young to remember Searling having hair though ...... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 2 Fabulous records and still under/around the £20 mark! And would certainly fit into that older chestnut 'If it was dog-rare, how much?' theory Rich NOT WISHING TO BE DISRESPECTFUL ,ONLY MHO BUT PERSONALLY "WHAT GOOD AM I " IS A NICE RECORD TO LISTEN TO ,BUT AS FOR DJ'N A RECORD TO DANCE TO ,ITS A FLOOR CLEARER! NOW TSU TORONADOES-GOT TO GET THROUGH TO YOU,IS PROBABLY CHEAPER BUT IMHO FAR BETTER DANCEFLOOR MATERIAL OH AND WHILE WE ARE ON TSU "I STILL LOVE YOU" AGAIN DANCEFLOORABILITY(IS THAT A WORD) SUPERB! ONE IN TODAYS SALES ON OVIDE FOR £30!BE QUICK SOMEONE, BE4 IT GOES.AND BEFORE ANYONE SUGGESTS IT,ITS NOT ME SELLING IT! NEV Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) I trust you're still enjoying them? (Reputation Almost Intact) The Soul Music one maybe ! One of Seans many Clifton/Cleethorpes Bradford admirers Edited June 12, 2007 by SteveM Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 tyrone davis / can i change my mind ( bought yesterday) i would play them out no problem quality deep soul on the flip of this. Great record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 No. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ruffsounds Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Hi Adam As you say a cracking double sider that with a bit of luck should do well now if only i could find a few more copies :0). Cheers Ruffsounds Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Deejays ...Do you only take a record off the shelf after its gone at a high price on auction or on a dealers list ? Guilty - I admit to doing this on a couple of of occasions your Honour. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Guilty - I admit to doing this on a couple of of occasions your Honour. Yeah me too Steve Only shame is ive only got two Marshal records and no Dyco 45's hahahhah Edited June 12, 2007 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Yeah me too Steve Only shame is ive only got two Marshal records and no Dyco 45's hahahhah Ah well I've been playing Halo for years m8...it's actually fallen out of the playbox Edited June 12, 2007 by Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Ah well I've been playing Halo for years m8...it's actually fallen out of the playbox Got one in 1990 but never played it out .. Edited May 14, 2008 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 One of Seans many Clifton/Cleethorpes Bradford admirers Nice picture. I remember it well. It is you Steve isn't it? Joking apart... did you ever break or play any cheapies... back in the day? Always seem to remember you for Shadows, William Powell, Quit While I'm Ahead etc. All decent money things at the time. RSVP Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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