Posted June 5, 200718 yr Right, since this seems to divide opinion so violently, I thought we'd have a poll - result by Friday morning will decide once and for all if this is a wonderful record or if Pete is justified in his destructive tendencies... For original discussion see here https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26880 Edited June 5, 200718 yr by rachel
June 7, 200718 yr Tut... play nicely boys One more day to go in the voting.. never mind the local elections or the Big Brother evictions, this is obviously the big issue of the year
June 7, 200718 yr mike- said: have removed the late nite off topic posts on this page as don't really add much to the thread Mike - the next poll will be around how the Carstairs was first discovered - two very different stories there too.....
June 7, 200718 yr Steve G said: Mike - the next poll will be around how the Carstairs was first discovered - two very different stories there too..... Do elaborate... Pete-S said: The poll was biased from the start giving too many options! I felt that this complex issue required a wide range of possible responses, tomorrow's final results will be subject to thorough statistical analysis to give an accurate and fair representation of the situation.
June 7, 200718 yr Pete-S said: The poll was biased from the start giving too many options! So you lost then.
June 7, 200718 yr Goldwax said: So you lost then. What do you mean "I lost", I lost f*ck all, it was nothing to do with me setting up a poll
June 7, 200718 yr rachel said: Do elaborate... Story 1 is something like: "I was driving in my car (when I was 16-ahem) and this record came on the radio.....I just had to get it so I went and traced down the radio station and got them to look up the playlist, and find the record. I got the details of the label but when I rang them I found they had gone bust about 6 months previously" Story 2 is something like "I found it in the 50p bin at Soul Bowl" Sorry, as always I am being a bit mischevous Rachel.
June 7, 200718 yr Steve G said: Story 1 is something like: "I was driving in my car (when I was 16-ahem) and this record came on the radio.....I just had to get it so I went and traced down the radio station and got them to look up the playlist, and find the record. I got the details of the label but when I rang them I found they had gone bust about 6 months previously" Story 2 is something like "I found it in the 50p bin at Soul Bowl" Sorry, as always I am being a bit mischevous Rachel. hi steve thanks for that i always remembered story one but that brought back story 2, however the first one i remember is story one so i am sticking with that one hope that makes some sense. mark
June 7, 200718 yr I like it, I can't help it, I know bugger all about lables, issues or any of that all I know is it makes me smile and want to dance a bit.
June 8, 200718 yr Well, after three days, the results are in - around 67% of the voters have positive views about the record, about 19% are neutral, leaving 14% who have good taste, er I mean, dislike it Taking this out of a total membership of 3881, it could be said that about 3% like this record, while 0.3% of the forum members think they're Pete Smith...
June 8, 200718 yr rachel said: Well, after three days, the results are in - around 67% of the voters have positive views about the record, about 19% are neutral, leaving 14% who have good taste, er I mean, dislike it Taking this out of a total membership of 3881, it could be said that about 3% like this record, while 0.3% of the forum members think they're Pete Smith... And wich is the percentage of psychologists who can deal with our schizophrenia? But, let's be realistic. Who would be accept being analyzed by some who likes the Carstairs? if that's nut being absolutely mad then what is it? Cheers
June 8, 200718 yr rachel said: Well, after three days, the results are in - around 67% of the voters have positive views about the record, about 19% are neutral, leaving 14% who have good taste, er I mean, dislike it Taking this out of a total membership of 3881, it could be said that about 3% like this record, while 0.3% of the forum members think they're Pete Smith... What's the opposite of silent majority?
June 8, 200718 yr rachel said: Well, after three days, the results are in - around 67% of the voters have positive views about the record, about 19% are neutral, leaving 14% who have good taste, er I mean, dislike it Taking this out of a total membership of 3881, it could be said that about 3% like this record, while 0.3% of the forum members think they're Pete Smith... And 3,600 Soul Source members couldn't care less! Amusing though it has been, I thought this debate was done and dusted in 1975/76 Good to see we've all moved on............ PS I Like The Carstairs but am sick of hearing it! Dave
June 8, 200718 yr davenowell said: And 3,600 Soul Source members couldn't care less! Amusing though it has been, I thought this debate was done and dusted in 1975/76 Good to see we've all moved on............ PS I Like The Carstairs but am sick of hearing it! Dave Err, I was 5 years old then mate.
June 8, 200718 yr davenowell said: And 3,600 Soul Source members couldn't care less! There's probably 3,600 Soul Source members who never post!
June 8, 200718 yr Goldwax said: Err, I was 5 years old then mate. all right, don't rub it in....... Dave
June 11, 200718 yr I like it and given i could post up a top 100 i am sure Carstairs - It Really Hurts Me Girl would be in it. That song is also Blackpool Mecca classic at his best. Don't mock it play it
June 12, 200718 yr WPaulVanDyk said: I like it and given i could post up a top 100 i am sure Carstairs - It Really Hurts Me Girl would be in it. That song is also Blackpool Mecca classic at his best. Don't mock it play it
June 12, 200718 yr The thing is that everybody will dislike some records that the majority like. In the same way everybody will like some records that the majority dislike. There lies the greatness of this scene, where musical preference opinions 'should' be respected. This particular song did open the door to a change in style from the traditional 60s Detroit / Motown / Stax sound, in a similar way that today some of the stuff played at a Northern Soul event is way too slow or too rock and roll to have been considered 30 years ago. In any case, like it or not, it will always be an important part of the scenes history. Personally as long as I only hear it 2 or 3 time a year, its always welcome. Ed
June 13, 200718 yr mel brat said: Channel Four Film: reviewed by Mel-vin Brat CARSTAIRS-PLAY Based on the Book "GOODBYE TO BORIN' (oldies)" by Christopher Isherwood A harrowing tale of blind intolerance and grossly bad taste set against the backdropping antics of the German Vee-Jay Republic of 1919-1933. The film is set around a North Berlin Soul club, where self-absorbed Silly Bowlegs persues her career as a All-Night Cabaret DJ, seemingly unaware of the growing mayhem encroaching on her lifestyle. The hyper-inflation of rare-Soul prices, and mass unemployment in record pressing plants creates an climate where extremism thrives. Anything seen as remotely "Modern" is anethema to a small-minded group of brainless neo-fascists in baggy trousers who rampage around "pretending" to smash up any record that doesn't fit the definitions of 'das Uber-Northern', as laid down by their delusional, self-proclaimed "Fuerer" in his semi-literate booklet 'Mein Kopf Hurts, Duhh!' The film's poignant theme song perfectly evokes the sultry, emotion-charged atmosphere of the Vee-Jay Republic, as the whole scene slides (with the aid of copius amounts of talc!), inexorably toward mind numbing banality, and a new dark age threatens to submerge all that is even remotely soulful and replace it with "rare" uptempo pop tunes and jack-bootlegs... Too near the truth mate!
Right, since this seems to divide opinion so violently, I thought we'd have a poll - result by Friday morning will decide once and for all if this is a wonderful record or if Pete is justified in his destructive tendencies...
For original discussion see here https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26880
Edited by rachel