Wymona Carr: Please Mister Jailer On Speciality

[Guest santa]

Anyone please??

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Anyone please??

Be careful with this one - like a good many 1950s Specialty 45s, it was legitimately re-pressed, by Specialty Records themselves, way into the 60s. The originals have a thin yellow wavy line through the black stripe that separates the logo half of the label from the label copy half. Later pressings don't have that line, although I stress again that these are not boots and that they are 100% legit, later pressings.

The other way to tell the difference is that the vinyl on the original press is quite heavy, the later pressings are much lighter to the touch.

[Guest Richard Bergman]

Beatin Rhythm in Manchester had a few copies if memory serves me correct....

[Denbo]

Be careful with this one - like a good many 1950s Specialty 45s, it was legitimately re-pressed, by Specialty Records themselves, way into the 60s. The originals have a thin yellow wavy line through the black stripe that separates the logo half of the label from the label copy half. Later pressings don't have that line, although I stress again that these are not boots and that they are 100% legit, later pressings.

The other way to tell the difference is that the vinyl on the original press is quite heavy, the later pressings are much lighter to the touch.

Tony, Are you sure that isn't the other way around?

ie the thin yellow wavy line through the thick black stripe indicates the legit re-issue?

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Tony, Are you sure that isn't the other way around?

ie the thin yellow wavy line through the thick black stripe indicates the legit re-issue?

Actually, it seems a little more complicated than that, now I've dug a bit deeper into my Specialty collection.

For years it was the accepted wisdon that wavy line = original and no line = repress. However, here's a sampling of my Specialty 45 collection which both proves and disproves that.

First, a guaranteed 100% original of "Please Mr. Jailer":

...followed by a 100% guaranteed repress of:

...and an original of this old 6T's West Hampstead classic:

...followed by a 100% guaranteed, red vinyl repress of my favourite record on the whole label:

...and , for good measure, an original 45 of Sam Cooke's debut secular release:

...and a mid 80s first time issue of a great Little Richard rocker:

So, to revise what I originally said a bit, and to really confuse the issue now:

Wavy line = originals and 1980s repressings

No line = later originals and 1960s/early 70s pressings

You can also tell a 1980s repressing by the fact that most of them - and certainly all of the handful that I have - are 'see through' when you hold them up to a light...

...I think I need a lie down after all that, but before I do I would say that it's probably best to actually physically see what you're buying before making a purchase on this label.

One thing I'm absolutely certain about it that none of these are repressings (LOL)!:

Enjoy the labels...

TONE

Edited May 7, 2007 by TONY ROUNCE

[Guest Jean-Marc]

An even older label and a non-US one

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

...and some more old design labels!

...and this was the first ever Specialty release - Juke Box being that label's first incarnation:

TONE

[Tommy1]

If anyone should happen to have another copy, after Santa get's one, I would love one too...

[Denbo]

Bloody Hell Tony, I'm more confused than ever now.

Still, at least there's no boots, just re-issues. I can live with that.

Thanks . . . . . I think.

[Guest santa]

Are there any difference in the sound quality of the repress and the OG? iF NOT ill gladly take the 2nd press....

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Are there any difference in the sound quality of the repress and the OG? iF NOT ill gladly take the 2nd press....

Sorry, should have mentioned that earlier - all 2nd press Specialty 45s should sound as as good as the 1st press ones. Better, in some ways, in that they are usually mint! I've got a 1st pressing of "Harper's Express" (which I showed a label scan for, on red vinyl) and both the 2nd press copies I've got are excatly the same (only less worn, as they're newer!)

TONE

[Ezzie Brown]

i never fail to be gob smacked by the records i see scanned on here, my collection is crap in comparison!!!!!!!!!!1