John Manship Auction results 16th April 2025.

[Woodbutcher]

 

[Nick Soule]

I was the second-highest bidder on the Lee & The Leopards 45 if there's anyone out there tempted to sell their copy. 

[Lionelonthevinyl]

Blimey Luther Ingrams a pretty penny!! I love it, sounds so good on a big system at a do!! Thank you for posting woodmeister......Rob

[Dobber]

4 minutes ago, Lionelonthevinyl said:

Blimey Luther Ingrams a pretty penny!! I love it, sounds so good on a big system at a do!! Thank you for posting woodmeister......Rob

Cracked/fracture too

[Mot]

Am I missing something on the Dorothy Williams and Bobby Marchan……I’d never of considered them as auction items….. and thought they were no more than £75 each?

[Frankie Crocker]

Just now, Mot said:

Am I missing something on the Dorothy Williams and Bobby Marchan……I’d never of considered them as auction items….. and thought they were no more than £75 each?

Yep. Both set sale until now. The supply of OV from the US is drying up fast!

[Keamus]

About to write the very same on Dorothy Williams. I struggled to sell a demo a few years back. Finally got a taker at £70.  Two people must have been desperate to get into such a crazy bidding war.

[Peter99]

Thanks for posting them up Steve.

As a personal observation I've never understood the Wayne Gibson record? It may have something to do with the fact that it was always played on the Waltzer at Mablethorpe amusement park when I worked up there as a summer job in the mid 70's. I just don't like it and personally don't think it fits in a northern soul playlist/do.

Peter

[Clee93]

Bought a copy of Soul Inc nicer than that from Carolina Soul very end of last year for around £120 with cleaner labels and no writing on. Sold it for about £400ish within a few weeks after it arrived if I remember right, shortly after realising it had been put on one of the Charly compilations. Nice tune but not an easy dance, also available on the LP for a fraction of the price of what I paid from the states.

Edited April 16 by Clee93

[OLLIVANTMAN]

1 hour ago, Peter99 said:

Thanks for posting them up Steve.

As a personal observation I've never understood the Wayne Gibson record? It may have something to do with the fact that it was always played on the Waltzer at Mablethorpe amusement park when I worked up there as a summer job in the mid 70's. I just don't like it and personally don't think it fits in a northern soul playlist/do.

Peter

STONES' ORIGINAL VERSION BETTER??

[Chalky]

Not sure why there is debate about the best Under My Thumb on a site for soul music, might have been massive in the mid 70s but all the versions are crap.

Edited April 17 by Chalky

[Corbett80]

17 hours ago, Mot said:

Am I missing something on the Dorothy Williams and Bobby Marchan……I’d never of considered them as auction items….. and thought they were no more than £75 each?

proper daft - £400 plus for dorothy williams??

[Mot]

2 hours ago, Corbett80 said:

proper daft - £400 plus for dorothy williams??

Agree........there's a number for sale on the internet......even one for £150 (which seems quite high to me but maybe I'm out of touch with current values) from a real reputable long time UK dealer.  Maybe bidders don't look beyond the auction site?

Edited April 17 by Mot

[Peter99]

8 hours ago, Chalky said:

Not sure why there is debate about the best Under My Thumb on a site for soul music, might have been massive in the mid 70s but all the versions are crap.

Precisely Chalky - it's a crap record.

Peter

[Happy Feet]

3 hours ago, Peter99 said:

Precisely Chalky - it's a crap record.

Peter

That's exactly why it's now being debated , when it was first spun probably the Torch or Twisted Wheel , it was probably a UK based label scene , they would not have had the wealth of US labeled sounds , that followed.

At the time it was also a scene in infantsy, & records where played for a week or two then dropped, by the time of the Casino most of these type of sounds where oldies , & suddenly got a second lease of life & reissued for one reason or another.

Fortunately we're still going strong , & as was said by a prominent promoter / DJ , " We've Separated The Wheat From The Chaff" & so the scene goes on , so we don't have to play this kind of tune anymore , unless requested, still has plenty of likes from people who where there at the time on YouTube , personally would like to hear an instrumental of it  

[Whiskyagogo]

15 hours ago, Chalky said:

Not sure why there is debate about the best Under My Thumb on a site for soul music, might have been massive in the mid 70s but all the versions are crap.

I'll hold my hand up & say. I like it still & the Stones original too.

Does that make me a div?

[Jessie Pinkman]

10 hours ago, Happy Feet said:

That's exactly why it's now being debated , when it was first spun probably the Torch or Twisted Wheel , it was probably a UK based label scene , they would not have had the wealth of US labeled sounds , that followed.

At the time it was also a scene in infantsy, & records where played for a week or two then dropped, by the time of the Casino most of these type of sounds where oldies , & suddenly got a second lease of life & reissued for one reason or another.

Fortunately we're still going strong , & as was said by a prominent promoter / DJ , " We've Separated The Wheat From The Chaff" & so the scene goes on , so we don't have to play this kind of tune anymore , unless requested, still has plenty of likes from people who where there at the time on YouTube , personally would like to hear an instrumental of it  

I always thought it was early Casino or possibly Va Va's. I know it was one of RS's spins because he played me when I was round at his house at that time.

Edited Friday at 09:06 by Jessie Pinkman

[Happy Feet]

15 minutes ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

I always thought it was early Casino or possibly Va Va's. I know it was one of RS's spins because he played me when I was round at his house.

https://soulbot.uk/wayne-gibson.htm/

Also numerous memories on YouTube claim it to be earlier , I heard it played at the Casino to , to a packed dancefloor was very popular , also featured on Crackerjack ,check out the link .

Edited Friday at 09:16 by Happy Feet

[Dobber]

8 hours ago, Whiskyagogo said:

I'll hold my hand up & say. I like it still & the Stones original too.

Does that make me a div?

No it doesn’t make you a div mate,just means your tone deaf

joking aside,personally I don’t mind the tune,as cover versions go I prefer it to the original,and I just except that “northern soul” isnt just simply “soul music” as for the stones originaI i don’t really like the Rolling Stones anyway.

[Woodbutcher]

You want to pop over to Discogs and listen to some of the shockingly bad covers of UMT that actually made it onto vinyl.

I'm sure the Garage fans love them but how Wayne Gibson ever made it onto a 'soul' scene I'll never understand ... Uncle Johnny must have had his fingers crossed behind his back whilst dictating his patter for this one ... 

[Quinvy]

This kind of discussion makes me smile. Everyone one the scene these days is a member of the soul police.

Back when we were teenagers, there were no rules. Despite what many think today, it was primarily a dance scene.

And for the people who were on the dance floor back then, records like:

under my thumb, footsie, the snake etc were loved and danced to with vigour.

The derision of such anthems by people on here, smacks of hypocrisy to me.

They’re part and parcel of northern soul, and we should embrace them as such.

 

[Jessie Pinkman]

46 minutes ago, Quinvy said:

This kind of discussion makes me smile. Everyone one the scene these days is a member of the soul police.

Back when we were teenagers, there were no rules. Despite what many think today, it was primarily a dance scene.

And for the people who were on the dance floor back then, records like:

under my thumb, footsie, the snake etc were loved and danced to with vigour.

The derision of such anthems by people on here, smacks of hypocrisy to me.

They’re part and parcel of northern soul, and we should embrace them as such.

 

Phil, you're dead right but why lump Al Wilsons "The Snake" in with Footsie. There's nowt wrong with the Snake. IMO  The Seeds would have been a better choice.

Edited Friday at 12:32 by Jessie Pinkman

[Quinvy]

1 hour ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

Phil, you're dead right but why lump Al Wilsons "The Snake" in with Footsie. There's nowt wrong with the Snake. IMO  The Seeds would have been a better choice.

The fact is that the snake is derided, that’s why I mentioned it.

[Okehdownsouth]

2 hours ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

Phil, you're dead right but why lump Al Wilsons "The Snake" in with Footsie. There's nowt wrong with the Snake. IMO  The Seeds would have been a better choice.

Absolutely agree! UMT was a big record in the soul/Mod clubs back in the days before the term Northern Soul had been coined. Most of the people who deride these records, never heard them in the in the day and just slag them off which is total hypocrisy, except for Barnaby Bye, which is, was and will forever be absolute shite.

[Woodbutcher]

As you've both proved unequivocally , it's all a matter of opinion.

And that the gear was soooooo much better back in the day ... 

[Happy Feet]

6 hours ago, Woodbutcher said:

As you've both proved unequivocally , it's all a matter of opinion.

And that the gear was soooooo much better back in the day ... 

I think under the circumstances, an underground scene which it very much was upto 76 , if a DJ played a record that had a dancefloor appeal you had a choice , dance or wait for the next one .

We didn't have the tools or knowledge at the time to consider Soul or not , it was more about the dancefloor, lots of blue eyed soul too many to list here now Bobby Goldboro for one , & Paul Anka , I Can't Help Loving You , albeit covered up , but yes it was a drug fuelled scene , full of kids , lead by older mentors , " this was played at the Torch , Wheel , Catacombs, VaVa's , the Mecca etc but every week we travelled to where ever ,to packed out All nighters more for the buzz than the odd shite record .

And the gear wasn't soooooo much better back in the day , unless you had a good supplier, lots of dodgy dealers around at the time  , best to source  your own .

Edited Friday at 21:06 by Happy Feet

[Monny1916]

Especially chalky's yuk , and a dexadrine nose inhaler