Craig W Posted March 7 Posted March 7 Is this real or a boot as the label text is different from any I can find online. The etched matrix numbers are Side 1 - W4KM 0901 1-E Side 2 - W4KM 1006 -E Thank you
Craig W Posted March 7 Author Posted March 7 Hi Yes thank's , I know that but is it genuine or a boot?
Solidsoul Posted March 7 Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Craig W said: Hi Yes thank's , I know that but is it genuine or a boot? Are the numbers in the run out grooves scratched in or machine stamped? I think there are three different label design original demos. Two vinyl and one styrene. There is a styrene 1970's reissue as well.
The Yank Posted March 7 Posted March 7 (edited) If you go on discogs, it looks close to the Rockaway pressing. What's strange is the stars at the top and bottom of the label look like someone added them in blue ink versus black on the picture below. And the credits on the left side are now the the right side. Edited March 7 by The Yank
Robbk Posted March 7 Posted March 7 1 hour ago, The Yank said: If you go on discogs, it looks close to the Rockaway pressing. What's strange is the stars at the top and bottom of the label look like someone added them in blue ink versus black on the picture below. And the credits on the left side are now the the right side. That looks like an original to me. I have several Lauries with the record/credit information sides reversed. That isn't a "sign" that such a label indicates a bootleg.
The Yank Posted March 8 Posted March 8 I never said it was a bootleg, I just pointed out it looked like the Rockaway pressing except the credits were reversed. The blue stars ( instead of black) were another difference.
Solidsoul Posted March 8 Posted March 8 (edited) If it's the demo with Advance Release written down the sides and has the matrix numbers machined stamped in the run out groove, it's a definite original. Edited March 8 by Solidsoul
Craig W Posted March 8 Author Posted March 8 The matrix numbers are etched in the run out grooves. Also there is no Recorded at text under Hoagy Lands on the A side.
Solidsoul Posted March 8 Posted March 8 (edited) 5 hours ago, Craig W said: The matrix numbers are etched in the run out grooves. Also there is no Recorded at text under Hoagy Lands on the A side. As I mentioned earlier, there are two original vinyl demos with the writing credits in different places. The machined stamped copies have the Recorded At Allegro Studios info at the bottom and the other demo design has this info on the right hand A side. I don't know if this second design ( different pressing plant?) is stamped or just has etched in matrix numbers. Can someone confirm this either way ? Edited March 8 by Solidsoul
Zoomsoulblue Posted March 8 Posted March 8 Number stamped plus R I brought this back in 1978 for £5 major St Ives sounds back in 1976/77 1
Mikehump Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 08/03/2025 at 10:09, Solidsoul said: As I mentioned earlier, there are two original vinyl demos with the writing credits in different places. The machined stamped copies have the Recorded At Allegro Studios info at the bottom and the other demo design has this info on the right hand A side. I don't know if this second design ( different pressing plant?) is stamped or just has etched in matrix numbers. Can someone confirm this either way ? My wife Suzy's copy has an etched number in the run out and a slightly different label. It also says Recorded at Allegro Sound Studio. Moulded vinyl. Runout on the Next in Line side, is etched U4KM-901-1C "A"/A with a separate R on the opposite side of the run out. The "A" could be an R - that would be close to the Discogs description I reckon she would have got this around 1973. Mike
Solidsoul Posted March 10 Posted March 10 7 minutes ago, Mikehump said: My wife Suzy's copy has an etched number in the run out and a slightly different label. It also says Recorded at Allegro Sound Studio. Moulded vinyl. Runout on the Next in Line side, is etched U4KM-901-1C "A"/A with a separate R on the opposite side of the run out. The "A" could be an R - that would be close to the Discogs description I reckon she would have got this around 1973. Mike Thanks for those pictures, but Craig W who started the topic has a demo copy with the advance release words down the sides. Your issue copy will have different text layout than the demos.
Mikehump Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Thanks. I was picking up the point about there being several vinyl versions but missed the "demo" bit. Note to self - read things properly! Mike
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