Time's A Wasting - Fuller Brothers - Square clock design.

[Solidsoul]

Here's a Northern Soul classic from the Fuller Brothers. Played at the Torch and early Wigan allnighters and other early 1970's venues.

This is a picture of a square clock true original, that is exactly the same as the demo, only without the promo text. This plays loud and great fidelity.

Now below is a picture of a murky gold label copy that is often sold as an original, but it looks very suspect to me. The sound quality is low volume and poor fidelity. Does anyone know if this suspect copy is an early bootleg or maybe a company reissue? I know there are the round clock design labels as well.

Edited Friday at 11:34 by Solidsoul

[Kenb]

I’m no expert on deadwax, label revisions, bootleg, etc…but I guess you have info that supports the fact you have the original ( and that “the  suspect one” you show perhaps isn’t)?

i.e which is original, are they both original, is “ yours” ?

Edited Friday at 13:02 by Kenb

[Solidsoul]

The first three pictures are of the definite original first issue and has the exact vinyl profile, colour, fidelity and matrix marks as the demo.

The question I'm trying to get answered is, are the murky gold label copies, pictured at the bottom, with the low fidelity originals as well? Or are they early counterfeits,  as this was a monster record in it's day. Or are they legitimate company reissues?

Edited Friday at 13:54 by Solidsoul

[Kenb]

i understood that some had numbers in the clock face and some didn't. both pukka. i also understood that the one that without numbers in the clockface reas Moaning Growing AND Crying on the B-side instead of &.  I didn't think it had ever been booted... that's not to say there isn't a hooky counterfeit or two about.

[Bo Diddley]

I've got the Demo and the dirty looking gold issue. Both have Machine Stamped numbers with another small letter almost opposite. The stamps are in slightly different places in relation to each disc and the run-out grooves.

No idea if the "dirty gold" one is an official re-issue, like those small 45 OKEH's, or original.

With regard to sound quality, I have other original records which are muffled sound.

[Blackpoolsoul]

On 07/03/2025 at 11:30, Solidsoul said:

Here's a Northern Soul classic from the Fuller Brothers. Played at the Torch and early Wigan allnighters and other early 1970's venues.

This is a picture of a square clock true original, that is exactly the same as the demo, only without the promo text. This plays loud and great fidelity.

Now below is a picture of a murky gold label copy that is often sold as an original, but it looks very suspect to me. The sound quality is low volume and poor fidelity. Does anyone know if this suspect copy is an early bootleg or maybe a company reissue? I know there are the round clock design labels as well.

Is there an "H" stamp in the deadwax (Hollywood) pressing

[Modularman]

According to Manships bootleg guide the gold label is the first press