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I was talking to Richard Searling at Prestwich recently, about a record that I'd heard him play at many moons ago, which had become not only one of my all time favorite records but one of my most elusive 'wants'.

I got to thinking how many bloody tunes this guy had played over time, that had become, not only some of my favorite records, but i'll bet many other peoples as well.

I guess all you have to do is think about are some of the venus he's been associated with, Va Va's Wigan, Stafford, Morecambe, Rotherham (and that's just the 'Northern' venues) to realise how influential he's been.

The record was The Notations on TAD............ Just wondered if there's any other records he's championed over the years, that have remained favorites of fellow Soul Sourcers?

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I was talking to Richard Searling at Prestwich recently, about a record that I'd heard him play at many moons ago, which had become not only one of my all time favorite records but one of my most elusive 'wants'.

I got to thinking how many bloody tunes this guy had played over time, that had become, not only some of my favorite records, but i'll bet many other peoples as well.

I guess all you have to do is think about are some of the venus he's been associated with, Va Va's Wigan, Stafford, Morecambe, Rotherham (and that's just the 'Northern' venues) to realise how influential he's been.

The record was The Notations on TAD............ Just wondered if there's any other records he's championed over the years, that have remained favorites of fellow Soul Sourcers?

Yes "Where I'm not wanted", The Appointments, Nurons, Mr Soul, Jackie Beavers, the list is endless.......also the Philly Groove thing that none of us can remember what it is......a one off though wicked.gif

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I was talking to Richard Searling at Prestwich recently, about a record that I'd heard him play at many moons ago, which had become not only one of my all time favorite records but one of my most elusive 'wants'.

I got to thinking how many bloody tunes this guy had played over time, that had become, not only some of my favorite records, but i'll bet many other peoples as well.

I guess all you have to do is think about are some of the venus he's been associated with, Va Va's Wigan, Stafford, Morecambe, Rotherham (and that's just the 'Northern' venues) to realise how influential he's been.

The record was The Notations on TAD............ Just wondered if there's any other records he's championed over the years, that have remained favorites of fellow Soul Sourcers?

Spot on with the posting, :unsure: a big thankyou to soul bowl for making it possible whistling.gif .

Billy :lol:

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A few he's played over the years that are favourites of mine include:

How Long -Thelma Jones

It happens every time - Barbara McNeir

Don't walk away - General Johnson

Will think of some more in a mo

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A few he's played over the years that are favourites of mine include:

How Long -Thelma Jones

It happens every time - Barbara McNeir

Don't walk away - General Johnson

Will think of some more in a mo

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after obtaining alot of Richards wigan sounds im currently collecting his Vava plays

included so far

got to keep moving - grover mitchell (brill 60's sound)

johnny dunn - youre hanging me up

barbara mason - dont want to lose your love...amongst others

great dj with a great taste in music..

would to have an interview with him about the wigan days ,,id be there all day!!!

Guest mel brat
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after obtaining alot of Richards wigan sounds im currently collecting his Vava plays

included so far

got to keep moving - grover mitchell (brill 60's sound)

johnny dunn - youre hanging me up

barbara mason - dont want to lose your love...amongst others

great dj with a great taste in music..

would to have an interview with him about the wigan days ,,id be there all day!!!

I believe he also started "Tainted Love" off while at Va-Va.

(Now there's a heavy responsibility to carry..) :thumbup:

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Guest mel brat
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A few he's played over the years that are favourites of mine include:

How Long -Thelma Jones

It happens every time - Barbara McNeir

Don't walk away - General Johnson

Will think of some more in a mo

All credit to Richard for his good taste, but I don't know about the Thelma Jones LP track and General Johnson, as they were both very well known as new releases in 1978 and 1976 respectively. General Johnson even got a UK release at the time and was a common find in Soul Packs. :thumbup:

Guest mel brat
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after obtaining alot of Richards wigan sounds im currently collecting his Vava plays

included so far

got to keep moving - grover mitchell (brill 60's sound)

johnny dunn - youre hanging me up

barbara mason - dont want to lose your love...amongst others

great dj with a great taste in music..

would to have an interview with him about the wigan days ,,id be there all day!!!

The Barbara Mason side is great. It was also a big record at the Catacombs in 1973 however.

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Spot on with the posting, :huh: a big thankyou to soul bowl for making it possible :thumbup: .

Billy :thumbsup:

Nice one Billy, maybe in the latter days of Wigan and through their obvious business links but let's be honest he must have pulled thousands of records from 'other' sources as every top DJ would do to craet that very 'Hot Box' :thumbsup:

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after obtaining alot of Richards wigan sounds im currently collecting his Vava plays

included so far

got to keep moving - grover mitchell (brill 60's sound)

johnny dunn - youre hanging me up

barbara mason - dont want to lose your love...amongst others

great dj with a great taste in music..

would to have an interview with him about the wigan days ,,id be there all day!!!

Still chasing Johnny Dunn myself

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All credit to Richard for his good taste, but I don't know about the Thelma Jones LP track and General Johnson, as they were both very well known as new releases in 1978 and 1976 respectively. General Johnson even got a UK release at the time and was a common find in Soul Packs. :thumbup:

"Don't Walk Away" was bought as a new release by many people who didn't wait until it was "discovered" later by DJs on the soul scene. It was also on General Johnson's album before the 45 was issued.

The same applies to "How Could You Break My Heart" by Bobby Womack. Many Womack fans bought it and loved it long before it was "discovered".

Terry Wogan

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"Don't Walk Away" was bought as a new release by many people who didn't wait until it was "discovered" later by DJs on the soul scene. It was also on General Johnson's album before the 45 was issued.

The same applies to "How Could You Break My Heart" by Bobby Womack. Many Womack fans bought it and loved it long before it was "discovered".

Terry Wogan

Amen Paul.

Just made a similar reference on the Selectadisc thread.

:thumbup:

Sean

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Amen Paul.

Just made a similar reference on the Selectadisc thread.

:thumbup:

Sean

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what about these

rufus lumley - im in love again

peter hamilton - hey girl

cautions - no other way (covered as belairs-no other way)

avengers - reflection (covered as man in the mirror)

international gtos - i love my baby

cobblestone - trick me treat me

kenny ballard - im losing you

don ray - born a loser ....

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can anyone list Richards tunes at TOTW when he was bored.......85?......i vaguely remember.that femme c/u that got released on Kent........i went for a burger...chastised by Gilly......what was that 45 on Constellation when he belatedly discovered Crossover (oh how we laughed)

Guest kermack
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rufus lumley - im in love again.............Think it was Sam that first played this.

avengers - reflection (covered as man in the mirror) Can anyone do me an mp3 of this? Haven't heard it in yonks.

John


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what about these

rufus lumley - im in love again

peter hamilton - hey girl

cautions - no other way (covered as belairs-no other way)

avengers - reflection (covered as man in the mirror)

international gtos - i love my baby

cobblestone - trick me treat me

kenny ballard - im losing you

don ray - born a loser ....

This is supposed to be about the GOOD stuff he played? :thumbup::huh:

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I will eternally grateful to Searling for what he did for the Wigan dance floor toward it's closure.

Nice version of 'Don't Walk Away' by Sweet Pea Atkinson too.

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All credit to Richard for his good taste, but I don't know about the Thelma Jones LP track and General Johnson, as they were both very well known as new releases in 1978 and 1976 respectively. General Johnson even got a UK release at the time and was a common find in Soul Packs. :rolleyes:

You're right of course-it's just that these tracks remind me of the sort of things Richard played in his golden era for me which was Parkers Hotel in Mcr.

While I'm on though-I've got the Thelma Jones on the LP but I think there was a 45 release? Can you help?

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Bobby Boyd Why are you crying...waited 17 years before that got a release on his compo...awesome...............

Ronnie Mcneir For the rest of my life..................

Ronnie McNeir Baby I know........ awesome tune....................

loads of tunes

big respect

:rolleyes:

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I will eternally grateful to Searling for what he did for the Wigan dance floor toward it's closure.

You're not wrong there mate!

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Nice one Billy, maybe in the latter days of Wigan and through their obvious business links but let's be honest he must have pulled thousands of records from 'other' sources as every top DJ would do to craet that very 'Hot Box' :wicked:

My memory serves me right did RS discovered gone with the wind played at Wigan as a CU and Soul Sam played it 12 months later as im uncovered version i can remember it 1st been played at Wigan have i got that right.

Billy :unsure:

Guest mel brat
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"Don't Walk Away" was bought as a new release by many people who didn't wait until it was "discovered" later by DJs on the soul scene. It was also on General Johnson's album before the 45 was issued.

The same applies to "How Could You Break My Heart" by Bobby Womack. Many Womack fans bought it and loved it long before it was "discovered".

Terry Wogan

That's what I just said...

Guest mel brat
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You're right of course-it's just that these tracks remind me of the sort of things Richard played in his golden era for me which was Parkers Hotel in Mcr.

While I'm on though-I've got the Thelma Jones on the LP but I think there was a 45 release? Can you help?

There were several tracks released from the Thelma Jones album. (The incredible "Salty Tears" of course got a UK release on CBS in 1976) I'm personally not aware of "How Long" being issued on 45, though I have only had demo copies of the single releases and it may be lurking on one of the B-Sides! If my memory serves, Deborah Laws (sister to Ronnie & Eloise) also did a version of the song on her Elektra album C.1982

The other two singles released from the album were "I'd Rather Leave When I'm In Love" and the cover of the old Miracles tune which I forget at the moment! ("Tracks Of My Tears" was it?)

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My memory serves me right did RS discovered gone with the wind played at Wigan as a CU and Soul Sam played it 12 months later as im uncovered version i can remember it 1st been played at Wigan have i got that right.

Billy
:wicked:

"Gone With The Wind (Is My Love)" Rita And The Tiarras Billy?

Played by Richard as The Velvelettes "My Love Is Gone With The Wind"

Cheers Paul

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There were several tracks released from the Thelma Jones album. (The incredible "Salty Tears" of course got a UK release on CBS in 1976) I'm personally not aware of "How Long" being issued on 45, though I have only had demo copies of the single releases and it may be lurking on one of the B-Sides! If my memory serves, Deborah Laws (sister to Ronnie & Eloise) also did a version of the song on her Elektra album C.1982

The other two singles released from the album were "I'd Rather Leave When I'm In Love" and the cover of the old Miracles tune which I forget at the moment! ("Tracks Of My Tears" was it?)

managed to bag i can dream on 45 thansk to plumbys cheap sales box at last togetherness at the tower from the 1978 lp awesome tune.............

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what about these

rufus lumley - im in love again

peter hamilton - hey girl

cautions - no other way (covered as belairs-no other way)

avengers - reflection (covered as man in the mirror)

international gtos - i love my baby

cobblestone - trick me treat me

kenny ballard - im losing you

don ray - born a loser ....

Are you sure the Cautions , Cobblestone & Rufus Lumley were Richards finds-I had them down as St Ives/Peterborough discoveries (Cautions & Cobblestone down to Sam ?) ?

Not that it matters that much-All great oldies :wicked:

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Are you sure the Cautions , Cobblestone & Rufus Lumley were Richards finds-I had them down as St Ives/Peterborough discoveries (Cautions & Cobblestone down to Sam ?) ?

Not that it matters that much-All great oldies :wicked:

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hi martin,,orig post was about his spins/plays not discoveries..over the years

i cant say who discovered them but he played them at some point..i know he was playing cobblestone as love me like a man in 78..

Guest Johnny Mack
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Here you go - Thelma's Columbia releases

1976 - Columbia 45 - Salty Tears/Youre the song I cant stop singing

1977 - Columbia 45 - I'd rather leave while I'm in love/Look what U got me into

1978 - Columbia 45 - I want what you want/I'm lonely enough to try anything

1978 - Columbia 45 - I second that emotion/I can dream

1978 - Columbia LP- Thelma Jones (most copies I've seen have been promos)

managed to bag i can dream on 45 thansk to plumbys cheap sales box at last togetherness at the tower from the 1978 lp awesome tune.............
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"Gone With The Wind (Is My Love)" Rita And The Tiarras Billy?

Played by Richard as The Velvelettes "My Love Is Gone With The Wind"

Cheers Paul

Not being pedantic or anything but it was covered as the Vel-vets....and Thelma Jones "Salty Tears" has to be one of my favourite slowies - didn't know it until my girlfriend at the time played it to me in '83, managed to pick up a demo Lp of it a little later.
:wicked:

Hippo.

Guest the dukester
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Nice version of 'Don't Walk Away' by Sweet Pea Atkinson too.

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where do you start with Richard? He almost single-handedly made the Casino Saturday nights interesting in its latter years. Favourite tunes he championed? Just about everything that was ever released on Grapevine (and he has publicly acknowledged how important Jon Anderson at Soul Bowl was).

Younger members of SS may not realise how many still-popular rare tracks were pushed by Mr S at the Casino. Including: Mr Soul, Jimmy Burns, Carol Anderson, the Deadbeats, Cecil Washington, Court Davis, Larry Houston, Sam Williams, Eddie Holman Where Im Not Wanted, Daybreak, Rita and Tiaras, Construction Hey Little Way Out Girl (sounds awful now), Betty Boo, Bobby Hutton Lend A Hand, Heartache Souvenirs, Curtis How Can I Tell Her (fantastic, let's revive it!) , Phyllis Hyman, Skip Mahoney, ZZ and Co, Tyrone Barclay, etc etc etc

He also leaned heavily towards the Mecca sounds in the mid 70s, ie Mel Britt, Lou Edwards, Today's People, Jerry Fuller, Anderson Bros, Billy Woods, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I am sure we could go on all day. The Casino has its critics (many of whom never went) but top this lot!

PS He is accused by Russ of playing Gary Lewis's My Heart's Symphony once, but denies this! :) But he did play Babe Ruth repeatedly :)


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Not being pedantic or anything but it was covered as the Vel-vets....and Thelma Jones "Salty Tears" has to be one of my favourite slowies - didn't know it until my girlfriend at the time played it to me in '83, managed to pick up a demo Lp of it a little later.
:lol:

Hippo.

Oops thats me and my so called memory again for yer.....................you pedantic bloody Hippo you
:D

Thanks for clearing that up Jerry
:thumbsup:
Got one of those demo LPs meself.... great LP one you can play all the way through and not have to skip a track.

Also have "Salty Tears" on a UK 45

Cheers Paul

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I always rated Richard in the early days, possibly because my first nighter was Vavas, but I was talking to him one evening walking down to the Casino for a Friday early session, and he was really enthusiastic about a couple of new versions of "Blowing My Mind To Pieces" plus the instrumental!!.

After I heard Paula Rousell, Bob Relf(New version) & the inst. He really went down in My estimation.

A bit later he went very '70s, doing things like Angels in Burnley.

Happily he returned to the fold properly towards the end of Wigan and made it all better.

Paul

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I was talking to Richard Searling at Prestwich recently, about a record that I'd heard him play at many moons ago, which had become not only one of my all time favorite records but one of my most elusive 'wants'.

I got to thinking how many bloody tunes this guy had played over time, that had become, not only some of my favorite records, but i'll bet many other peoples as well.

I guess all you have to do is think about are some of the venus he's been associated with, Va Va's Wigan, Stafford, Morecambe, Rotherham (and that's just the 'Northern' venues) to realise how influential he's been.

The record was The Notations on TAD............ Just wondered if there's any other records he's championed over the years, that have remained favorites of fellow Soul Sourcers?

sandy golden

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I was talking to Richard Searling at Prestwich recently, about a record that I'd heard him play at many moons ago, which had become not only one of my all time favorite records but one of my most elusive 'wants'.

I got to thinking how many bloody tunes this guy had played over time, that had become, not only some of my favorite records, but i'll bet many other peoples as well.

I guess all you have to do is think about are some of the venus he's been associated with, Va Va's Wigan, Stafford, Morecambe, Rotherham (and that's just the 'Northern' venues) to realise how influential he's been.

The record was The Notations on TAD............ Just wondered if there's any other records he's championed over the years, that have remained favorites of fellow Soul Sourcers?

I have been trying to get Mr Searling to grace the decks and do a Northern spot at Prestwich for a while now, mostly in response to all the people who request Northern on his radio show, anyway he's agreed and he will be playing Northern this Friday at the Longfield Suite, Prestwich.

Should be good!.........Looking forward to it already....................................... :lol:

Guest Byrney
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sandy golden

Amazing tune, I had it down as an Ion Spin, followed by Rob Marriot.

Anyone mentioned Paris, Sleepless Nights?

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after obtaining alot of Richards wigan sounds im currently collecting his Vava plays

included so far

got to keep moving - grover mitchell (brill 60's sound)

johnny dunn - youre hanging me up

barbara mason - dont want to lose your love...amongst others

great dj with a great taste in music..

The Adventures - Easy Baby and

Towanda Barnes Love Slipped Thru My Fingers...............

Guest uroffal
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Amazing tune, I had it down as an Ion Spin, followed by Rob Marriot.

Anyone mentioned Paris, Sleepless Nights?

Sandy Golden - pretty sure it was Ion who had this first - have it on a very old tape of his.

Fantastic record :lol: either way (other side is nice as well)

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Guest mel brat
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Not being pedantic or anything but it was covered as the Vel-vets....

Hippo.

What's so wrong with being pedantic ? It's my raison detre ! :lol::lol::lol:

Guest mel brat
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where do you start with Richard? He almost single-handedly made the Casino Saturday nights interesting in its latter years....

Bobby Hutton Lend A Hand...

He also leaned heavily towards the Mecca sounds in the mid 70s, ie Mel Britt, Lou Edwards, Today's People, Jerry Fuller, Anderson Bros, Billy Woods, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. I am sure we could go on all day. The Casino has its critics (many of whom never went) but top this lot!

Bobby Hutton was originally a Mecca sound as a matter of fact...

(just to confirm my previous comment above!)

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I think the Phonetics Boys dream was his Eddie Holman C/U

Think you're right there Ted which reminds me of some of his 'stranger' inventions such as 'Lee Moore and the Resourceful Ones' and The Phantom Janitor' !!!! didn't some tracks actually get 'released' as the cover up artist/title?

Perhaps I shouldn't go there.................

Edited by BazM
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Sorry to butt in on this mutual adulation session, Richard was certainly the man at Wigan, but then he had access to all the big records via John Anderson at the time and compared to Winstanley, any DJ would have shone

Gary Rushbrooke was as good

Butch blows him away and has had to work much harder for his records

Since then he has been ok but in modern terms not a patch on Bob Jones or Mike Stephens. Dean Johnson was always a better DJ at Parkers.

So full respect to Richard but the adulation is and has always been over the top .

Peace be with you

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Its difficult to compare Butch to Richard because of the different eras they were big in!

However For all the great records Butch finds I am yet to hear him play something so extrordinarily different as much as Richard did in the 70s.

When Butch plays something so revolutionary as Cleveland Eatons - Quasar one then we can start comparing.

P.S. If anyone see Richard on Friday will they give him this message

Steve Eckersley is Still waiting for a cd with the aformentioned track on it! Pretty please Richard

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What about a record called "Flashback" Heard him play this on the radio once.Would like to know who this is by,think he mentioned Ritchie Adams, but was this a coverup name?

Guest Darks
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QUOTE(Geoff B @ Apr 6 2007, 04:40 PM) link
What about a record called "Flashback" Heard him play this on the radio once.Would like to know who this is by,think he mentioned Ritchie Adams, but was this a coverup name?

Derek Martin, pretty certain, can't remember if it was ever released.

Regards Alan

Guest WPaulVanDyk
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Funny enough i have cd here titled Richard Searling presents 100% Casino. Pretty much a collection of songs he liked.

Larry Clinton - She's Wanted. Doni Burdock - Bari Track. Betty Boo - Say It Isn't So, Dynamics - Say I Love you Baby and many more all feature on the cd.

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