JM Sale

[Pigeon Thing]

10 hours ago, Ncfc said:

I honestly can't believe a lot on the soul scene are so nieve in buying from this half price sale. 

...why naive?... I ordered a few long(ish ) time wants... not super rare, but  I knew they were on Johns site and Discogs, but I've not got deep pockets so beyond what I was willing to pay...50% off sorted that... records arrived (ok not instantly, but Ive been hunting a copy for a long time...so what's an extra couple of weeks, he also called to say sorry for the delay)  and in the condition stated...I'm happy...

[Modern Man]

13 hours ago, Ncfc said:

I honestly can't believe a lot on the soul scene are so nieve in buying from this half price sale. 

So tell me more… sounds like you believe John Manship has had peoples trousers down?

[Dave Pinch]

my order came this morning... only 4 out of 7 records that i ordered overall but graded ok and i`m happy with them and the prices were right enough for me

[Ncfc]

3 hours ago, Modern Man said:

So tell me more… sounds like you believe John Manship has had peoples trousers down?

I have already had one official warning on here so i will leave you to make your own mind up. 

[1soulmojo]

I only ordered one 45, on 6 Jan. I rang them yesterday to check on progress and the lady printed my order sheet there and then and handed it to John to find the 45.

After the time lapse I fully expected it to be out of stock but the record arrived this morning in perfect condition. If your still waiting ringing may be way forward.

[Peter99]

I think everyone at Johnny's - including himself, have done a sterling job on what must have been/still is a monumental task. I don't collect anymore but when I did I always found John and his set up to be first class. I've heard nothing yet to change my mind. Delays were always going to happen and could have reasonably been expected.

Peter

 

Edited yesterday at 20:03 by Peter99

[Shinehead]

A monumental task undertaken and in hindsight John himself would probably say it was a exercise that outstripped expectation and put him and his team under pressure but most on here seems happy, most complaints seem now over missing records but that is the chance taken with sales like these, he isn't Amazon.

[Mr Outsider]

4 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

A monumental task undertaken and in hindsight John himself would probably say it was a exercise that outstripped expectation and put him and his team under pressure but most on here seems happy, most complaints seem now over missing records but that is the chance taken with sales like these, he isn't Amazon.

not sure how many other dealers would get away with routinely filling 50% of orders and yet still claim ringing endorsements from some, tbf.

[Shinehead]

15 hours ago, Mr Outsider said:

not sure how many other dealers would get away with routinely filling 50% of orders and yet still claim ringing endorsements from some, tbf.

I would guess a lot of the records would be maybe several copies at best and hard to please everyone when those copies are gone 

Money refunded no loss really just a bit of disappointment.

Life goes on

Edited 12 hours ago by Shinehead

[Chalky]

32 minutes ago, Mr Outsider said:

not sure how many other dealers would get away with routinely filling 50% of orders and yet still claim ringing endorsements from some, tbf.

Are you saying 50% of all orders in the sale have gone unsold?  Not sure how you come to that conclusion tbh?

[Modern Man]

So made 2 orders on January 5th. Waited patiently for 31 days as understood the situation. Then rang Stella as felt a full calendar month was long enough and she said I would receive the items this week… 2 days later both orders duly arrived. 
 

Just one item was out of stock and refunded and not bothered as own the original 12” anyway. Only ordered the 7” as it was around half book price and wasn’t going to have to pay extra postage on it. Having a vinyl night tonight so will give them all a spin along with a couple of other new arrivals and see if they meet grading criteria but a visual inspection suggests they should do. So long as they play ok I’m more than happy as had some real bargains well below normal market rate.

[Soulagogo]

Would be interesting  to know wether John thought it was a worth while venture!

I would of thought he’s moved a lot of records that would have been there for ages 

Edited yesterday at 19:23 by Soulagogo
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[Shinehead]

22 minutes ago, Soulagogo said:

Would be interesting  to know wether John thought it was a worth while venture!

I would of thought he’s moved a lot of records that would have been there for ages 

I would imagine that was his  intention, he gets rid of dead stock and the buyers are happy will half price records or some are

Edited yesterday at 19:46 by Shinehead

[Peter99]

1 hour ago, Mr Outsider said:

not sure how many other dealers would get away with routinely filling 50% of orders and yet still claim ringing endorsements from some, tbf.

Not sure how many other dealers would/have a 50% reduction offer on their stock. 

Peter

[Happy Feet]

1 hour ago, Peter99 said:

Not sure how many other dealers would/have a 50% reduction offer on their stock. 

Peter

To be honest Peter , lots of record dealers both on here and Ebay have reduced their prices not all 50% , but maybe 20 to 25% ,  so although I didn't order anything from John , I know I've saved a few pounds and am more than happy , there has definitely been a downturn in prices this month .

Had an email this morning from a well known seller , that has slashed some of his sales ( albeit new releases from the last couple of years ) to as little as £3.

Edited yesterday at 21:16 by Happy Feet

[Chalky]

13 hours ago, Happy Feet said:

To be honest Peter , lots of record dealers both on here and Ebay have reduced their prices not all 50% , but maybe 20 to 25% ,  so although I didn't order anything from John , I know I've saved a few pounds and am more than happy , there has definitely been a downturn in prices this month .

Had an email this morning from a well known seller , that has slashed some of his sales ( albeit new releases from the last couple of years ) to as little as £3.

The market has been over inflated for a long time in many cases.  Dealers have a choice ro sell at a price they will sell for or have them sat on a shelf.

[Mr Outsider]

16 hours ago, Chalky said:

Are you saying 50% of all orders in the sale have gone unsold?  Not sure how you come to that conclusion tbh?

No, I said that lots of people are reporting receiving approx half of what they ordered, so it seems to be happening routinely 

[Kenb]

Blimey…it’s turned into the Spanish Inquisition. John had a half price sale. That’s it. We’ll done him.

[Dave Pinch]

2 hours ago, Chalky said:

The market has been over inflated for a long time in many cases.  Dealers have a choice ro sell at a price they will sell for or have them sat on a shelf.

agree chalks.. if a record is for sale and in my case have to sell then reduce them a little till they do sell.. no point having them sitting pretty for ages.. i think a great idea from JM and thought it was long overdue if I`m honest

[Danilo]

18 hours ago, Peter99 said:

Not sure how many other dealers would/have a 50% reduction offer on their stock. 

Peter

During his half-price sale, the prices merely dropped to the normal going rate.

[Shinehead]

34 minutes ago, Danilo said:

During his half-price sale, the prices merely dropped to the normal going rate.

But you still decided to put an order in ! 

[Simon T]

I THINK THIS IS MOST INSERTING TREAD EVER TO BE POSTED ON SS

[Chalky]

1 hour ago, Danilo said:

During his half-price sale, the prices merely dropped to the normal going rate.

The ones I bought were cheaper than any other copy so I’m happy. Three orders in all.  

[Chalky]

2 hours ago, Dave Pinch said:

agree chalks.. if a record is for sale and in my case have to sell then reduce them a little till they do sell.. no point having them sitting pretty for ages.. i think a great idea from JM and thought it was long overdue if I`m honest

Given the stock John says he holds I doubt the sale has even made a dent.  Great way to shift stock and create some interest. 

[Jon P]

37 minutes ago, Simon T said:

I THINK THIS IS MOST INSERTING TREAD EVER TO BE POSTED ON SS

Agreed. This one is going down in the SS hall of fame

[Danilo]

3 hours ago, Shinehead said:

But you still decided to put an order in ! 

Why shouldn't I buy records at normal prices?

[Shinehead]

1 minute ago, Danilo said:

Why shouldn't I buy records at normal prices?

No reason at all but you said it was not a sale at all, even though most people took it as one. Maybe if you shopped around for the records at those normal prices you may have had them at your door quicker.

 

[Edwin S Wales]

7 hours ago, Kenb said:

Blimey…it’s turned into the Spanish Inquisition. John had a half price sale. That’s it. We’ll done him.

I think nobody was expecting the Spanish Inquisition

Edited 2 hours ago by Edwin S Wales

[Soulagogo]

I started thread and cannot believe the response . I,m sure John will take any criticism on the chin and carry on what he does provide quality sounds , it up to the buyer to decide whether it is good deal or not .

[Simon T]

5 minutes ago, Edwin S Wales said:

I don’t think nobody was expecting the Spanish Inquisition

"our chief weapons are surprise"    ........ come on SS  chill we are all going to be dead soon, Wigan, Stafford,  Va Vas, Mecca  Frampton Casino etc Obviously  those doing rule 43, on FrAGGLE Rock will have to have a workaround.

 

[Mr Outsider]

I'm not sure why some people seem to be taking customer reviews directed at JM personally? If you're happy with your transactions in the sale, by all means wax lyrical, fairs fair. But if other people aren't as happy, for whatever reasons, I'm sure they are entitled to their opinions based on their experiences, and I'm sure JM's business will survive!

[Danilo]

44 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

No reason at all but you said it was not a sale at all, even though most people took it as one. Maybe if you shopped around for the records at those normal prices you may have had them at your door quicker.

 

That's right, it wasn't a half-price sale when the prices before the sale were double the usual prices.

I ordered a whole bunch of records that I would have had to search for elsewhere for a long time. For me, my order was essentially about being able to cross a lot of records off my wish list in one purchase at a more or less standard price.

I spent a few thousand quid with him and still haven't heard from him after a month or so, so you're actually right and I probably should have bought them elsewhere. At the moment I feel like I've given him a loan.

 

[Peter99]

1 hour ago, Danilo said:

Why shouldn't I buy records at normal prices?

You can do whatever you like. I've not read a single comment where anyone has suggested that you do anything otherwise.

I do think that you are starting to sound a little petulant. 

Peter

[Shinehead]

7 minutes ago, Danilo said:

That's right, it wasn't a half-price sale when the prices before the sale were double the usual prices.

 

 

Most people on here seem pleased with the prices and the main gripe has been the time taken to fulfil the orders or records not been available due to been sold to other customers. John and his team have been working flat out fulfilling the orders so in my opinion that indicates that people were trying to grap bargains while they could.

Obviously your opinion on the sale differs.

[Simon T]

5 minutes ago, Peter99 said:

You can do whatever you like. I've not read a single comment where anyone has suggested that you do anything otherwise.

I do think that you are starting to sound a little petulant. 

Peter

 doing 35 without parole. so you have decided to bitch him out to a indeterminate

[Danilo]

14 minutes ago, Peter99 said:

You can do whatever you like. I've not read a single comment where anyone has suggested that you do anything otherwise.

I do think that you are starting to sound a little petulant. 

Peter

How would you sound if you spent a few thousand GBP with someone who didn't consider it necessary to respond to your order and messages even after more than a month?
I have been very patient for weeks and I am still patient but I am reading more and more often from other soul source members that they have already received their records even though they ordered much later than me.

[Danilo]

4 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

Most people on here seem pleased with the prices and the main gripe has been the time taken to fulfil the orders or records not been available due to been sold to other customers. John and his team have been working flat out fulfilling the orders so in my opinion that indicates that people were trying to grap bargains while they could.

Obviously your opinion on the sale differs.

I'm also pleased about the half-price sale, as these are now the usual instead of double prices.

[Shinehead]

2 minutes ago, Danilo said:

I'm also pleased about the half-price sale, as these are now the usual instead of double prices.

Pleased about a half price sale because they are now sold at the correct price, that does not make sense to me and then spend thousands of pounds at the said sale  

 

[Jessie Pinkman]

8 minutes ago, Danilo said:

How would you sound if you spent a few thousand GBP with someone who didn't consider it necessary to respond to your order and messages even after more than a month?
I have been very patient for weeks and I am still patient but I am reading more and more often from other soul source members that they have already received their records even though they ordered much later than me.

 

23 minutes ago, Peter99 said:

You can do whatever you like. I've not read a single comment where anyone has suggested that you do anything otherwise.

I do think that you are starting to sound a little petulant. 

Peter

Peter how can you say that when you didn't even buy anything. I did and received my order within 2 days but if I'd splashed out a lot of money and was still waiting for an update I'd be bloody annoyed about it. 

[Danilo]

Just now, Shinehead said:

Pleased about a half price sale because they are now sold at the correct price, that does not make sense to me and then spend thousands of pounds at the said sale  

 

I have no idea what is supposed to be difficult to understand. I was able to buy a whole lot of records in one order for the usual price.
If I had bought the records individually from different sellers, I would have paid more just because of the shipping costs and I would have had more work with the orders. Apart from that, I ordered records that are not easy to find in the condition I ordered them in.

[Shinehead]

9 minutes ago, Danilo said:

I have no idea what is supposed to be difficult to understand. 

You implicating this was not a sale at all, but that is your opinion and you bought the records with that in mind, and I agree that I think you should have received your records or a acknowledgement of your message. I do appreciate that in an earlier post you said English is not your first language so a phone call is not really something you can do.

Hopefully your order comes through.

 

Edited 59 minutes ago by Shinehead

[Mike]

28 minutes ago, Danilo said:

How would you sound if you spent a few thousand GBP with someone who didn't consider it necessary to respond to your order and messages even after more than a month?
I have been very patient for weeks and I am still patient but I am reading more and more often from other soul source members that they have already received their records even though they ordered much later than me.

ok it sounds like you have got serious issues here with the seller

It may be better if you now take these issues directly to the seller, rather than continue to post them up here which so far hasn't resolved anything

This forum/topic is not really the best place or indeed the best tool to resolve this 

 

If anyone involved with John Manship Records is reading this, can you get in touch with this guy and open up some sort of communication to try and resolve this asp

 

 

 

 

[Danilo]

1 minute ago, Shinehead said:

You implicating this was not a sale at all, but that is your opinion and you bought the records with that in mind, and I agree that I think you should have received your records or a acknowledgement of your message. I do appreciate that in an earlier post you said English is not your first language so a phone is not really something you can do.

Hopefully your order comes through.

 

Maybe I have a different idea of what a sale is than you do. To me, a sale means that you can buy something for less than the usual price, but most of his prices are double the usual market prices, so the half-price sale is now the usual market price.

 

[Shinehead]

1 minute ago, Danilo said:

Maybe I have a different idea of what a sale is than you do. To me, a sale means that you can buy something for less than the usual price, but most of his prices are double the usual market prices, so the half-price sale is now the usual market price.

 

Thanks for opening my eyes to my stupidity.

[Mike]

Just now, Danilo said:

Maybe I have a different idea of what a sale is than you do. To me, a sale means that you can buy something for less than the usual price, but most of his prices are double the usual market prices, so the half-price sale is now the usual market price.

 

 

 

ok it sounds like you have got serious issues here with the seller

It may be better if you now take these issues directly to the seller, rather than continue to post them up here which so far hasn't resolved anything

This forum/topic is not really the best place or indeed the best tool to resolve this 

 

If anyone involved with John Manship Records is reading this, can you get in touch with this guy and open up some sort of communication to try and resolve this asp

 

[Danilo]

5 minutes ago, Mike said:

ok it sounds like you have got serious issues here with the seller

It may be better if you now take these issues directly to the seller, rather than continue to post them up here which so far hasn't resolved anything

This forum/topic is not really the best place or indeed the best tool to resolve this 

 

If anyone involved with John Manship Records is reading this, can you get in touch with this guy and open up some sort of communication to try and resolve this asp

 

 

 

 

I did this 4 days ago and still have not received a reply. My patience is wearing thin after reading time and time again from other Soul Source members that they have already received their orders even though they ordered later.

 

[Simon T]

1 minute ago, Shinehead said:

Thanks for opening my eyes to my stupidity.

I think that is one of the best best post son SS

 

 

[Danilo]

8 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

Thanks for opening my eyes to my stupidity.

You're welcome.

[Soulmanstu]

I spoke to Stella today at JMs regarding a few of my outstanding orders I quoted the ref numbers and soon arrived at a reasonable explanation . I had sent an email and a message on their website and had not heard back so thought best to phone . She said they were trying to wade  through all correspondence inbetween packing orders . But had about  6000 messages .. I feel for the guy who has spent x amount of thousands and doesnt speak the lingo .. personally tho considering the amount  of work involved I'm happy to wait as sure it will be resolved for one and all soon . Keep smiling peeps