JM Sale

[Tricky]

It’s getting tedious now. 27th  delivery arrived. 2 short, 3 not what was ordered.Issue instead of demo (already have) They will be going back as soon as my 31st order is despatched, arrives and checked for incompetence.Another of his Discogs mistakes seems to be just lobbing his items anywhere.I order an item as vinyl release and get styrene.His whole operation needs an overhaul.Doesnt matter if its half price sale or not.No communication,no fulfilling of orders,not getting what does come right.Going back to chronological order, yeah like f..k.Not really listening to the MANSHIP apologists anymore.

 

 

 

 

 

[Bubble0soul]

placed an order on the 10th of january (only 7 days ago )

Am i the last....................

[Phillydog66]

Well said mate why start a half price sale when no one is there to sort out the orders total chaos.

[Mithras]

5 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

What's that got to do with your last piece of advice ? 

firstly did you pay by pay pal? best way get your funds back easy  street - how long was the delay? what advice do you need ,always willing to help.

[Shinehead]

1 minute ago, Mithras said:

firstly did you pay by pay pal? best way get your funds back easy  street - how long was the delay? what advice do you need ,always willing to help.

 My interest was in your reply to go sort it out, I have not ordered any record so your willingness to help is appreciated but not needed.

[Jnixon]

4 hours ago, Dave Pinch said:

Ye that’s another issue.. claiming is stressful and can be in the main unsuccessful 

Use a credit card is the best option

[Mithras]

26 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

 My interest was in your reply to go sort it out, I have not ordered any record so your willingness to help is appreciated but not needed.

take a happy pill

[Phillydog66]

Anyone ordered on the 28th and had records received yet.

[Shinehead]

5 minutes ago, Mithras said:

take a happy pill

Will that sort it ? 

 

[Mithras]

Just now, Shinehead said:

Will that sort it ? 

 

thats another  storie lol

[Peter99]

1 hour ago, Shinehead said:

Half an hour ago you were telling people to be patient now you are saying you would go round to his premises, I am sure taking your last piece of advice would be plain stupid.

Absolutely Graham. I'm sure some people are very frustrated but suggesting going round to Johnny's place is just inflammatory nonsense. Encouraging people to check out where his address is sounds intimidating - however frustrated people might be there's no need for that sort of talk. 

On a completely different note, I hope all is well Graham my old mate. Happy New Year Sir.

Peter

 

[Neal Bull]

Placed order 4th Jan had enough so canceled got refund , placed order on 7 Jan heard nothing sent emails still nothing not good at all

Edited 15 hours ago by Neal Bull

[Shinehead]

11 minutes ago, Peter99 said:

Absolutely Graham. I'm sure some people are very frustrated but suggesting going round to Johnny's place is just inflammatory nonsense. Encouraging people to check out where his address is sounds intimidating - however frustrated people might be there's no need for that sort of talk. 

On a completely different note, I hope all is well Graham my old mate. Happy New Year Sir.

Peter

 

Wise words Peter,and I am sure John is beside himself and doing his upmost to rectify the problems.

I am certain the said post was just a bit of bravado and not taken seriously by anyone.

I am fine thanks and hopefully you are doing well too and a happy new year to you too.

 

 

 

[Samson]

It seems like they are working on orders for the 30th right now based on negative feedbacks on discogs . I’ve got an order from Dec. 30th and another January 13th I’m still waiting to hear about. BTW - would be nice if people state their order date when updating orders fulfilled/cancelled.  

[Supercorsa]

I saw this video earlier this morning, but have just placed an order for a couple of records.  I'm willing to wait for delivery.  I mean used to take a week or two (sometimes longer) when buying from the US on Ebay. 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18S4zNzu9g/

[Mr Outsider]

14 minutes ago, Samson said:

It seems like they are working on orders for the 30th right now based on negative feedbacks on discogs . I’ve got an order from Dec. 30th and another January 13th I’m still waiting to hear about. BTW - would be nice if people state their order date when updating orders fulfilled/cancelled.  

I've got orders from 26th and 27th I haven't heard anything on. Others seem to be getting orders within a few days. There doesn't seem to be much by way of rhyme or reason

[Phillydog66]

Yes the same as me tried phone calls no response same with emails.

[Jon P]

26 minutes ago, Samson said:

It seems like they are working on orders for the 30th right now based on negative feedbacks on discogs . I’ve got an order from Dec. 30th and another January 13th I’m still waiting to hear about. BTW - would be nice if people state their order date when updating orders fulfilled/cancelled.  

I ordered 11 Jan and received yesterday 17 Jan. I must've been one of the lucky ones. Slightly embarrassed to have my records in my hands already given folks that are still waiting. I appreciate it's frustrating, they'll get to it all in time. Astonishing number of orders...

[Soulmanstu]

I like to buy off JM if only for the fact you know it's usually in great condition (imo) . the half price sale continues until the end of the month and although I'm not the biggest Motown fan I do collect the uk label . He had loads of 11-1200 45s that when reduced to half price were cheaper  or same price as those on discogs etc so I ordered 28 45s in total not all Motown .I ordered on 31st December and paid via my usual PayPal .. I'm actually still waiting for them to arrive having seen a couple of posts on FB he's dealing with a lot of orders and asks to bear with him .

[Woodbutcher]

I just hope John wasn't aiming to participate in "Dry January 2025" because he's going to have a hell of a hangover come 2nd of February if he is ... 

[Samson]

1 minute ago, Woodbutcher said:

I just hope John wasn't aiming to participate in "Dry January 2025" because he's going to have a hell of a hangover come 2nd of February if he is ... 

[Peter99]

1 hour ago, Woodbutcher said:

I just hope John wasn't aiming to participate in "Dry January 2025" because he's going to have a hell of a hangover come 2nd of February if he is ... 

I'm quite certain that he's already caved in! 

Happy New Year Steve.

Peter

[Ncfc]

What i don't get is how can a business let you pay for something that isn't in stock and that could never possibly be in stock again.

[Woodbutcher]

Having an immense number of items listed on a website at a particular moment in time is one thing.

Trying to find that actual physical item amongst FOUR MILLION  items scattered over mutiple storage facilities is quite a task , and given that any one of them may have been ordered by multiple potential buyers over the course of the week between the sale starting and the orders starting to be processed then it's easy to see how stuff can be 'out of stock' by the time another order for said 45 is sent for picking.

I doubt that many can actually visualise just what a million actually is , it's a word that's bandied about so often.

If you start counting right now , 1,2,3,4 ... etc , one a second , every second , non-stop , it will take you eleven and a half days to get to that million mark , so forty-six days to get to four million.

You'll all be bleating next that he has no upcoming auctions after next Wednesday.

Edited 3 hours ago by Woodbutcher

[Dave Pinch]

13 hours ago, Jnixon said:

Use a credit card is the best option

Mine has to go thru my business bank account as I’m not a hobby seller

Edited 3 hours ago by Dave Pinch

[Samson]

7 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

Having an immense number of items listed on a website at a particular moment in time is one thing.

Trying to find that actual physical item amongst FOUR MILLION  items scattered over mutiple storage facilities is quite a task , and given that any one of them may have been ordered by multiple potential buyers over the course of the week between the sale starting and the orders starting to be processed then it's easy to see how stuff can be 'out of stock' by the time another order for said 45 is sent for picking.

I doubt that many can actually visualise just what a million actually is , it's a word that's bandied about so often.

If you start counting right now , 1,2,3,4 ... etc , one a second , every second , non-stop , it will take you eleven and a half days to get to that million mark , so forty-six days to get to four million.

You'll all be bleating next that he has no upcoming autions after next Wednesday.

 I see 100,000 listed on his discogs.  How many are posted on the JM site? Is there a way to see the total number listed for sale?  4 million sounds like an awful lot

[Woodbutcher]

10 minutes ago, Samson said:

 I see 100,000 listed on his discogs.  How many are posted on the JM site? Is there a way to see the total number listed for sale?  4 million sounds like an awful lot

From the 'horse's mouth' , in the description on the video recently posted , that you obviously didn't watch.

Edited 2 hours ago by Woodbutcher

[Ncfc]

17 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

Having an immense number of items listed on a website at a particular moment in time is one thing.

Trying to find that actual physical item amongst FOUR MILLION  items scattered over mutiple storage facilities is quite a task , and given that any one of them may have been ordered by multiple potential buyers over the course of the week between the sale starting and the orders starting to be processed then it's easy to see how stuff can be 'out of stock' by the time another order for said 45 is sent for picking.

I doubt that many can actually visualise just what a million actually is , it's a word that's bandied about so often.

If you start counting right now , 1,2,3,4 ... etc , one a second , every second , non-stop , it will take you eleven and a half days to get to that million mark , so forty-six days to get to four million.

You'll all be bleating next that he has no upcoming auctions after next Wednesday.

Surely find the item before listing is the way to have done it. 

Think how much money has been sent for none existent records. 

Bit like energy companies who have some of our money in their bank as  credit. 

 

[Woodbutcher]

2 minutes ago, Ncfc said:

Surely find the item before listing is the way to have done it. 

Think how much money has been sent for none existent records. 

Bit like energy companies who have some of our money in their bank as  credit. 

 

Every one of the 4,000,000 items are in the sale ffs ... 

[Ncfc]

5 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

Every one of the 4,000,000 items are in the sale ffs ... 

How do i become a member of his fan club. 

[Woodbutcher]

5 minutes ago, Ncfc said:

How do i become a member of his fan club. 

[Mike]

4 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

 

 

10 minutes ago, Ncfc said:

 

by all means comment on your sales experience and/or give advice/views but lets try and keep the conversation both factual and worthwhile

 

 

 

[Twoshoes]

37 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

quite a task , and given that any one of them may have been ordered by multiple potential buyers over the course of the week between the sale starting and the orders starting to be processed then it's easy to see how stuff can be 'out of stock' by the time another order for said 45 is sent for picking.

That has been my thinking, both the record I bought and received and a subsequent order are both still listed for sale,I know from a previous purchase John does have multiple copies of certain records but i doubt he would on some of the more expensive items which could be where some of the out of stock complaints arise. I looked on Discogs and from what I read the seller has to delete an item sold manually, don't know if I'm 100% correct  on that, perhaps someone on here who sells on there could give us an idea how it works, whether it is simple.

  I do think a lot of the flak John has received would have been avoided if he had explained why orders were not dealt with chronologically as is evident from some of the posts on here, I got my order before others who had ordered 7 days before me. The second order from Monday of this week is still being processed, obviously ordered knowing patience would be required which given the money saved I  am happy with.

[Chalky]

I want it…..I want it now

Is really that big an issue you have to wait awhile for your records.  Christmas, New Year, flooding all getting in the way.  I’m sure John in hindsight might have done things differently or not even bothered at all if he knew the slagging he would get from certain quarters but it is what it is.  You will get your records (or a refund if out of stock)in time. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Chalky

[Tricky]

He would only have to delete manually on Discogs if he has sold the record elsewhere.Which he obviously does on his own website or at venues.If you have ordered and payed it is allocated to you and drops off his for sale items.Even if he lists a quantity of 10 in the checkbox of the same listing,it would go down to 9 available copies.

Its all down to keeping everything up to date.

[Ncfc]

Wonder what John Anderson would have made of all this. 

[Mr Outsider]

51 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

Every one of the 4,000,000 items are in the sale ffs ... 

Perhaps theoretically. In reality, he has approx 100k items listed for sale. Presumably these are catalogued so that they can be found quickly, just like any other online business with a large inventory. 

 

 

[Shinehead]

One of the most respected dealers and people are not prepared to give him time to deal with an amount of orders he never would have imagined. As Chalky says your records will arrive or a refund given.

Bombarding him with emails and phone calls will not help his endeavours to fulfil the orders either.

[Woodbutcher]

35 minutes ago, Mr Outsider said:

Perhaps theoretically. In reality, he has approx 100k items listed for sale. Presumably these are catalogued so that they can be found quickly, just like any other online business with a large inventory. 

 

 

The number comes from John himself , so if you're going to start calling the man a liar now I think you're overstepping a mark somewhat ... 

[Peter99]

26 minutes ago, Shinehead said:

One of the most respected dealers and people are not prepared to give him time to deal with an amount of orders he never would have imagined. As Chalky says your records will arrive or a refund given.

Bombarding him with emails and phone calls will not help his endeavours to fulfil the orders either.

I agree. 

I think that anyone who ordered items and didn't expect some sort of delay given the enormity of the sale has been a little short-sighted; or in the alternative they don't know Johnny and his enormous set up.

Be patient, kind and trusting.

Peter

[Peter99]

40 minutes ago, Mr Outsider said:

Perhaps theoretically. In reality, he has approx 100k items listed for sale. Presumably these are catalogued so that they can be found quickly, just like any other online business with a large inventory. 

 

 

Perhaps, un-theoretically, you have a better understanding of Johnny's business than the rest of us, and therefore your acid comments are a little more appropriate.

But, in the alternative, I think that probably isn't true and that you are in fact being a little mean and over the top with your comments. 

Incidentally just how many records have you ordered?

Peter

[Mr Outsider]

20 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

The number comes from John himself , so if you're going to start calling the man a liar now I think you're overstepping a mark somewhat ... 

Lol, calm down. He might have 4 million records in his storage, but if they aren't listed you can't buy them, can you. He has approx 100k titles listed, I imagine quite a few of those in multiple copies. He doesn't have 4 million records listed in his sale.

[Mr Outsider]

12 minutes ago, Peter99 said:

Perhaps, un-theoretically, you have a better understanding of Johnny's business than the rest of us, and therefore your acid comments are a little more appropriate.

But, in the alternative, I think that probably isn't true and that you are in fact being a little mean and over the top with your comments. 

Incidentally just how many records have you ordered?

Peter

What comments were mean? 

I can see how many listings he has on discogs and on his site. The rest of what I wrote is basic common sense. 

 

Why do you want to know how many records I've ordered? 

[Peter99]

1 minute ago, Mr Outsider said:

What comments were mean? 

I can see how many listings he has on discogs and on his site. The rest of what I wrote is basic common sense. 

 

Why do you want to know how many records I've ordered? 

I was just interested to know how many you were waiting for and your level of frustration given some of the things you've said.

Anyway, no big deal. Happy New Year.

Peter

[Chalky]

7 minutes ago, Mr Outsider said:

Lol, calm down. He might have 4 million records in his storage, but if they aren't listed you can't buy them, can you. He has approx 100k titles listed, I imagine quite a few of those in multiple copies. He doesn't have 4 million records listed in his sale.

He isn't selling just via discogs though is he, he has his website as well.  Those listed will be amongst the 4 million in storage so still an effort to find once an order received.

[Mr Outsider]

12 minutes ago, Peter99 said:

I was just interested to know how many you were waiting for and your level of frustration given some of the things you've said.

Anyway, no big deal. Happy New Year.

Peter

There is a frustration, yes, in having  a lot of money tied up for a prolonged period, when other people on this very thread have received orders placed weeks later, in spite of clear statements that the processing is being done chronologically. That's quire frustrating. 

Given some of the things you've said. I wonder have you placed any orders at all? 

 

Happy new year to you also!

Edited 29 minutes ago by Mr Outsider

[Chalky]

7 minutes ago, Mr Outsider said:

There is a frustration, yes, in having  a lot of money tied up for a prolonged period, when other people on this very thread have received orders placed weeks later, in spite of clear statements that the processing is being done chronologically. That's quire frustrating. 

Given some of the things you've said. I wonder have you placed any orders at all? 

 

Happy new year to you also!

I have, 30/12 and 4/1, not received any yet but I am patient.

[trevorq]

ordered 27th & 10th nothing has arrived - happy to wait  but if I receive nothing -  I could have bought  other stuff - which I "let go" because I don't have funds left to buy 

[Peter99]

21 minutes ago, Mr Outsider said:

There is a frustration, yes, in having  a lot of money tied up for a prolonged period, when other people on this very thread have received orders placed weeks later, in spite of clear statements that the processing is being done chronologically. That's quire frustrating. 

Given some of the things you've said. I wonder have you placed any orders at all? 

 

Happy new year to you also!

I don't collect anymore but have bought plenty of records from Johnny over the years. I have never had a bad experience with him and he's always been a gentleman.

Peter