John Manship Auction results 18th December 2024.

[Woodbutcher]

Still waiting for the last one to sell but here's the rest.

 

Mystics finished at £335.

[Lionelonthevinyl]

Love Charlene & the soul serenaders,!!! and if I'm honest, I've never seen it on that label!! That number plate was Mr Manships was it not? On his car? It's fantastic but miles out of my league thank you for posting....Rob

[Koolkat]

What happened to Ralph Graham?

[Mgm 1251]

31 minutes ago, Lionelonthevinyl said:

Love Charlene & the soul serenaders,!!! and if I'm honest, I've never seen it on that label!! That number plate was Mr Manships was it not? On his car? It's fantastic but miles out of my league thank you for posting....Rob

Maybe the new owner of the vehicle registration has a rare record on the same label...SOUL

Edited Wednesday at 19:09 by Mgm 1251

[Woodbutcher]

10 minutes ago, Koolkat said:

What happened to Ralph Graham?

As I'm sick of repeating , once a listing has sold and been paid for it's removed from the page , when you're waiting for the stragglers to sell so you can get a complete screenshot sometimes a couple can get missed.

As the auctions always finish at the same time on the same day each week you could always visit the site and see for yourself.

Maybe this ought to be included in the Victor Meldrew thread too ... 

Edited Wednesday at 19:14 by Woodbutcher

[Koolkat]

Thanks.

[Ted Massey]

14 hours ago, Koolkat said:

What happened to Ralph Graham?

around 1100

[Spook]

Ralph ended £1117

[Dylan]

Fred Hymes way over what it should be and regularly sells for ?

 

madness I pity the people hearing these things for the first time now as these prices make it unrealistic.

[Mal C]

Delola Carmichael is the steal here, in today’s crazy prices, thats really cheap at £146. Good record too..

Fred Hymes, sold mine for £650 two years ago, so thats what, it went for double the price this week. It sat on £250 for years, remember I sold my first copy for £350/400, then bought one back at £400, so I made ultimately £250 on it...

dunno...

[Dobber]

19 minutes ago, Mal C said:

Delola Carmichael is the steal here, in today’s crazy prices, thats really cheap at £146. Good record too..

Fred Hymes, sold mine for £650 two years ago, so thats what, it went for double the price this week. It sat on £250 for years, remember I sold my first copy for £350/400, then bought one back at £400, so I made ultimately £250 on it...

dunno...

Always found Fredrick Hymes a bit dodgy looking? Is it a real press or some sort of private press by the artist?

[Woodbutcher]

21 minutes ago, Mal C said:

Delola Carmichael is the steal here, in today’s crazy prices, thats really cheap at £146. Good record too..

Fred Hymes, sold mine for £650 two years ago, so thats what, it went for double the price this week. It sat on £250 for years, remember I sold my first copy for £350/400, then bought one back at £400, so I made ultimately £250 on it...

dunno...

There's a chancer on Discogs asking £3200 ... 

[Dylan]

1 hour ago, Mal C said:

Delola Carmichael is the steal here, in today’s crazy prices, thats really cheap at £146. Good record too..

Fred Hymes, sold mine for £650 two years ago, so thats what, it went for double the price this week. It sat on £250 for years, remember I sold my first copy for £350/400, then bought one back at £400, so I made ultimately £250 on it...

dunno...

My thoughts are 250 is plenty for fred hymes I wouldn’t consider it rare and there were enough copies for everybody who wanted one.

 

and in recent times it’s had lots of hammer so a bit predictable for a DJ spot ?

Edited 21 hours ago by Dylan

[Woodbutcher]

29 minutes ago, Dylan said:

My thoughts are 250 is plenty for fred hymes I wouldn’t consider it rare and there were enough copies for everybody who wanted one.

 

and in recent times it’s had lots of hammer so a bit predictable for a DJ spot ?

You'd have to go back 15 years to see it going for £250 ... 

[Dylan]

20 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

You'd have to go back 15 years to see it going for £250 ... 

I don’t disagreee with this but to me when a record is around in the qty this is then it’s time to look elsewhere when it comes to spending.  Dont see the point in paying current market price I don’t see the value in doing that.

[Benji]

The market was flooded with Fred Hymes copies in the early 2k. Think they all came from "Brookly-Born" (aka Rich Rosen). Allegedly old store stock.

[Woodbutcher]

14 minutes ago, Dylan said:

I don’t disagreee with this but to me when a record is around in the qty this is then it’s time to look elsewhere when it comes to spending.  Dont see the point in paying current market price I don’t see the value in doing that.

There is always someone out there with a greater desire to own something and deeper pockets ... 

[Mal C]

2 hours ago, Dobber said:

Always found Fredrick Hymes a bit dodgy looking? Is it a real press or some sort of private press by the artist?

There are two presses of this 45... It's on here as has been discussed at length before. But the later one, looks very bootish, if you get my meaning.

[Dylan]

9 minutes ago, Benji said:

The market was flooded with Fred Hymes copies in the early 2k. Think they all came from "Brookly-Born" (aka Rich Rosen). Allegedly old store stock.

150 dollars if I remember right when exchange rate was 2 dollars to 1 pound ?

[Solidsoul]

1 hour ago, Benji said:

The market was flooded with Fred Hymes copies in the early 2k. Think they all came from "Brookly-Born" (aka Rich Rosen). Allegedly old store stock.

Yes I remember them on his list. I think they started about $60 until it became better known. He had plenty copies available, but I never bought one because he was repressing records and mixing them on his listings with originals, so I was never to sure about it being real.

The story goes that they were free copies made to give away at Frederick Hymes III live concerts!  You'll need to take that with a pinch of salt!

Edited 18 hours ago by Solidsoul

[davidwapples]

Fredrick hymes was said to have been booted but no one has ever come up with a copy for the price of a bootleg.

 

It is a modern version of the same song released by tonny hymes which is a slow version.

As said above all came from brooklyn born in the USA. 

Rumours of a yellow label release also but this was most probably down to a poor quality scan or photo

[Woodbutcher]

43 minutes ago, davidwapples said:

Fredrick hymes was said to have been booted but no one has ever come up with a copy for the price of a bootleg.

 

It is a modern version of the same song released by tonny hymes which is a slow version.

 

What do you call 'modern' ? The Frederick Hymes release was mentioned in Billboard magazine in March '71 , from a 2016 thread on here.

[davidwapples]

The tonny hymes is a 60s type slow track , I meant the Frederick.hymes was played more in the modern sets when it appeared rather than in the oldies dj sets

[Woodbutcher]

2 minutes ago, davidwapples said:

The tonny hymes is a 60s type slow track , I meant the Frederick.hymes was played more in the modern sets when it appeared rather than in the oldies dj sets

It's always struck me to be a similar thing to Charles Diamond.

The fella records it first in the 60's as Tonny Hymes and it does nothing , but having faith in his song he re-records a newer version a bit later in 1971 as Frederick.

[Dylan]

32 minutes ago, davidwapples said:

The tonny hymes is a 60s type slow track , I meant the Frederick.hymes was played more in the modern sets when it appeared rather than in the oldies dj sets

I thought Frederick Hymes was played in progressive northern clubs in a similar way things like James bell were never really considered it a modern record.

 

 

[Chalky]

14 hours ago, Dylan said:

I thought Frederick Hymes was played in progressive northern clubs in a similar way things like James bell were never really considered it a modern record.

 

 

It was, Butch first I think then others.