Joey Dee And The New Starlighters – How Can I Forget

[Geeselad]

Hi all was searching for this Wigan classic on discogs and find all of the caneil releases deemed unofficial, what was the genuine label for this? Many thanks in advance, geese. I know I'll get some stick but always loved this Wigan tune. 

[Davace]

Caneil is the correct label.Raised x in the deadwax for the original.

[Mithras]

spot on had it a few times sounded great at the casino

[Geeselad]

I thought so but discogs gives me this

https://www.discogs.com/master/1411979-Joey-Dee-And-The-New-Starlighters-How-Can-I-Forget

You.cant purchase any of those, blocked from sale. 

[Geeselad]

I've searched a bit and can't find out a great deal about this record, which really surprises me, considering how it it apparently was at the Casino. Doesn't seem any other releases on the label, and apart from it's connection to the Tof record label very little detail at all. 

[Mithras]

the originals are styrene a X easy to see  but as times go on they seem to be rarer than we thought,it got booted on a look a like and a few more but discogs is not the be all and end ,I have only had 2 copies  over   55+ years funny was not a masive spin around 75  didnt hear it a lot,played around the time of Anderson Bros ect only heard it the odd time

[Tlscapital]

Discogs parano stand shows that they're not knowing any better. Yes indeed it only shows 4 bootlegs entries.

Someone must create the legit issue entry for this rare sole release for the Caneil label. which is some work.

Edited August 21 by Tlscapital

[Agentsmith]

47 minutes ago, Mithras said:

the originals are styrene a X easy to see  but as times go on they seem to be rarer than we thought,it got booted on a look a like and a few more but discogs is not the be all and end ,I have only had 2 copies  over   55+ years funny was not a masive spin around 75  didnt hear it a lot,played around the time of Anderson Bros ect only heard it the odd time

I heard Soul Sam play it frequently, mid 70's did it not get attention at Cleethorpes as well?, around same time as stuff like Emanons Band " Bird Walking "

[Solidsoul]

When I came home from the Casino this instrumental tune would buzz around in my head for days!  It's a record for amphetamine fuelled allnighters!

[Mithras]

Never heard it at Cleethorpes remember sammy play Bari Track  there though underated Venue..

Bird Walkin was much later ....

[Agentsmith]

Just now, Mithras said:

Never heard it at Cleethorpes remember sammy play Bari Track  there though underated Venue..

Can't say i remember hearing it 75....deffo 76 though..our necknof the woods West Mids, Wulfrun & Civic Hall soul nights, Wolvo for sure...Pep would definitely have been playing it...it wouldn't be unlike Sam playing it, even if it was the instrumental and not the vocal as, he played backing tracks same as any other jock " Soul Step " The Dogs was another white artist track he played....that wouldve been 77/8ish maybe.

[Solidsoul]

2 minutes ago, Mithras said:

Never heard it at Cleethorpes remember sammy play Bari Track  there though underated Venue..

Which venue in Cleethorpes? There has been lots of different venues used for allnighters, soul nights and weekenders over the decades, with lots of different promoters.

[Mithras]

THE PIER .... was there at the time of the video camera dance comp  (see you tube) magic days Also when Tony Dellar DROPPED  R.B Freeman Im Shaft as first spin L.O.L.  on the way theres a village called swalow

cant get any better..

[Soul-slider]

45cat info, someone claims there are at least 3 different bootlegs!

 https://www.45cat.com/record/nc202221us

[Tlscapital]

20 minutes ago, Soul-slider said:

45cat info, someone claims there are at least 3 different bootlegs!

 https://www.45cat.com/record/nc202221us

Discogs shows two styrenes (one yellow gloss paper label and one red) then two vinyl variants. Original is yellow styrene with Matt label and raised 'X' machined matrix.

Edited August 21 by Tlscapital

[Pga1]

Seen a few on discogs classed as unofficial?? Lack of knowledge can become fact as many of us know, cheers

[Chalky]

I've tried to ad a real one on Discogs but it just says Caneil not a real label

[Geeselad]

9 minutes ago, Chalky said:

I've tried to ad a real one on Discogs but it just says Caneil not a real label

Frustrating, that!

[The Yank]

Not sure why Caneil isn't considered a "real label". I don't think any U.S.  Pop Music stations would have been playing bootlegs in the 60's . The single is at #63- 

 

[The Yank]

Here's a list from Record World of showing  current singles in alphabetical order with "How Can I..."  on Caneil - 

 

 

Edited August 22 by The Yank

[Geeselad]

8 hours ago, The Yank said:

Here's a list from Record World of showing  current singles in alphabetical order with "How Can I..."  on Caneil - 

 

 

Thanks, I was hoping you'd put forward your insight.Any idea about how he come to do this one off release on the label, or the labels connections? 

Edited August 22 by Geeselad

[The Yank]

1 hour ago, Geeselad said:

Thanks Rob, I was hoping you'd put forward your insight.Any idea about how he come to do this one off release on the label, or the labels connections? 

        ROB ?????

[Sebastian]

I've added the original to Discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/release/31542325-Joey-Dee-And-The-New-Starlighters-How-Can-I-Forget

[Chalky]

1 minute ago, Sebastian said:

I've added the original to Discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/release/31542325-Joey-Dee-And-The-New-Starlighters-How-Can-I-Forget

I did edit one of the other releases but where they allow it is another  matter

[Geeselad]

1 minute ago, Sebastian said:

I've added the original to Discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/release/31542325-Joey-Dee-And-The-New-Starlighters-How-Can-I-Forget

Thanks, appreciated

[Geeselad]

6 hours ago, The Yank said:

        ROB ?????

Apologies, it was  late!