What Is Modern Soul?

[Guest eedeecee]

is the music limited to the years 69-79? Is early Disco being considered as 'Modern'?

Are traditional Northern practices like 'covering up' labels and false titles given to tunes common?

What's the main characteristic of the scene compared to Northern??

questions, questions....

Edited March 21, 2007 by eedeecee

[Guest mel brat]

is the music limited to the years 69-79? Is early Disco being considered as 'Modern'?

Are traditional Northern practices like 'covering up' labels and false titles given to tunes?

What's the main characteristic of the scene compared to Northern??

questions, questions....

A late 80's article in 'Voices From The Shadows' from the days of 'Thorne' explained it all pretty well I thought. Perhaps someone has a scan of it to post up, as the alternative is probably pages of wrangling and disagreement! However, the actual DATE of the recording is less important than the feel and rhythm.

[Guest]

I felt that this thread was extremely informative.. https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.p...ic=31736&hl

Now, I feel that Modern is more a catagorization for a regional movement that happend during the late, late 7Ts early 8Ts.. I say regional because in the States here, we didn't use the term. I believe the term was used on the Northern scene to differentiate the new singles being introduced to the dancefloor crowd. In comparison to the older 6Ts Northern Classics, new singles produced during the 7Ts would (back then) have been considered more 'Modern'. In the States they would have been considered more 70's Soul, Philly, and soon.. Disco. However, keeping the quality and Rare criteria, the singles being played on the Modern scene (so I have researched) were a far cry from say the US chart toppers like GQ "Disco Nights", though they were produced around the same time.

Now, I'm not from the UK. I didn't grow up on the Northern Scene, nor the Modern Scene. I have been working hard to get my story straight, so that's my first shot at it. Anyone care to clearify? That would be great.

I'll post a link to a set that I did that attempts to really capture the nature of the US Modern sound. It includes Philly classics and a good run of Tom Molton remixes and production work to link the 'Disco' connection.

Simon, thank you again for the link mate.

respect -

ps. check out Jonte's Disco / Modern Soul mix here on the thread.. wheewwww.. what a great great Rare Disco Modern mix!! Includes Ujima, Exportations, Patterson Twins, Norman Connors, plus more..

https://www.clubunderstanding.com/mixar/JontesModernMix.mp3 - Jonte, hope you don't mind friend, but let's be honest, it's a great run of tunes!

Edited March 21, 2007 by SoulBoy74

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

To me Modern soul is mostly mid 70's onwards sounds that are like Northern and good enough to be accepted on the scene. There is disco/funk type songs that get played on the scene but not modern. It's also Modern soul that lends it hands into the new sounds being played or releases that are from 2006 or whatever year. Unless someone was to come along and personally make there record a Northern soul record using the right beat etc.

[Rushden Vic]

something you may hear whilst shopping in tescos

[Guest eedeecee]

In the States they would have been considered more 70's Soul, Philly, and soon.. Disco. However, keeping the quality and Rare criteria, the singles being played on the Modern scene (so I have researched) were a far cry from say the US chart toppers like GQ "Disco Nights", though they were produced around the same time.

Now, I'm not from the UK. I didn't grow up on the Northern Scene, nor the Modern Scene.

I am not from the UK, neither did I grew up on the Northern scene. I grew up in Discotheques really.

Before Disco took over, people used to dance to Soul music. Whatever the label was, the music was black and made for dancing. All those labels came later and boy, F*ck the labels!!

Disco chart toppers were never attractive to me but I remember tracks being played in the early days like 'we're on the right track' and 'free man' by South Shore Commission, Al Downing 'dream world', Ecstasy Passion & Pain 'touch & go', Four Below Zero 'my baby's got ESP', Detroit Emeralds 'you want it, I got it'...now this was way before Philly came on the scene, and Saturday Night Fever. The choice for rare and obscure titles is similar to the Northern scene of course but how does Tavares 'don't take away the music' fit into rare and obscure tracks??

Over in Europe we simply danced to the music and called it Soul Music. And that was around 1974 or so, just after the 'classic soul' era of Atlantic, Stax, Motown at the end of the sixties and before the Disco years. Those early seventies eventually were the years where Modern; a 'new genre' was being formulated, well at least in the UK. I just like to hear more opinions on this and how far into the 80's this music is stretching.

IMO, Modern Soul was a natural reaction on the sterile electronic soulless music of the nineties.

Edited March 21, 2007 by eedeecee

[Guest mel brat]

something you may hear whilst shopping in tescos

Think you're more likely to hear Wigan oldies in Tescos these days Tony, don't you? Haven't heard the likes of Beloyd advertising Cat food yet...

Edited March 22, 2007 by mel brat

[Guest mel brat]

I am not from the UK, neither did I grew up on the Northern scene. I grew up in Discotheques really.

Before Disco took over, people used to dance to Soul music. Whatever the label was, the music was black and made for dancing. All those labels came later and boy, F*ck the labels!!

Disco chart toppers were never attractive to me but I remember tracks being played in the early days like 'we're on the right track' and 'free man' by South Shore Commission, Al Downing 'dream world', Ecstasy Passion & Pain 'touch & go', Four Below Zero 'my baby's got ESP', Detroit Emeralds 'you want it, I got it'...now this was way before Philly came on the scene, and Saturday Night Fever. The choice for rare and obscure titles is similar to the Northern scene of course but how does Tavares 'don't take away the music' fit into rare and obscure tracks??

Over in Europe we simply danced to the music and called it Soul Music. And that was around 1974 or so, just after the 'classic soul' era of Atlantic, Stax, Motown at the end of the sixties and before the Disco years. Those early seventies eventually were the years where Modern; a 'new genre' was being formulated, well at least in the UK. I just like to hear more opinions on this and how far into the 80's this music is stretching.

IMO, Modern Soul was a natural reaction on the sterile electronic soulless music of the nineties.

I'm afraid I'm getting something of a reputation on here for continually banging on about Blackpool Mecca (sometimes with good reason, it has to be said!) However, when I see how folk who are comparitive newcomers to the UK Soul Scene actually view, and sometimes misinterpret, the history and development of Soul in the North, I sometimes feel the need to respond and correct a few popular misconceptions! So here we go again...

As far as the North is concerned, Blackpool Mecca played the pivotal role in the change toward a more contemporary playlist. This shift in music policy from (usually) uptempo 60s recordings in favour of a more "modern" playlist was initiated in 1974. Though new or recent releases had been played in Northern Soul clubs prior to that date, they were almost always recordings that shared a common tempo, and similar production to, those of the sixties.

During the period 1974-1976, Ian Levine and Colin Curtis, the DJs at the Highland Room at Blackpool Mecca, were the first to adopt a programme of change that allowed seventies recordings to be accepted alongside the more traditional Northern Soul "stompers" This lead to splits in audience with the Mecca followers responding to the varied rhythms of the new playlists, with new dancestyles and different modes of dress to what were previously common on the scene.

What we call either the Seventies scene or Modern Scene have subtle distinctions depending on the venue and contemporary definitions, however both can be ultimately traced back to the playlists of Blackpool Mecca to which was added the later influence of Soul Sam, Thorne and the input of various other DJs, collectors and venues. There are several threads currently running on this site which are related to this particular story. As for the range of music played, dates of recording etc., reading through the playlists is probably the best way to guage what is popular.

Edited March 22, 2007 by mel brat

[Guest MARTIN SNOW]

Think you're more likely to hear Wigan oldies in Tescos these days Tony, don't you? Haven't heard the likes of Beloyd advertising Cat food yet...

"YET" IS THE RIGHT WORD MEL, AS IT MAY NOT BE LONG COMING.

I'M CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING A DEAL FOR THAT TESCO ADVERTISING CAMPAIN ITSELF.

BELOYD WAS PART OF THE GROUP "AFTERBACH", OF WHICH AN ANAGRAM IS "HER FAB CAT"

AND THIS IS THE SLOGAN WE INTEND TO RUN WITH. BET THAT'S SURPRISED YOU ?

MARTIN SNOW

[Guest mel brat]

I felt that this thread was extremely informative.. https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.p...ic=31736&hl

Have just read through the above thread. It seems the contributor's are engaged in the familiar "chicken or egg" conundrum, namely did the style of music we now refer to as "Modern Soul" exist prior to the coining of the term itself?

Answer: Of course it did. In the same way that fire existed before we gave it a name!

Is the expression "Modern Soul" defined by when this type of record was first spun and accepted on the Northern Scene (ie. Levine/Curtis @Blackpool Mecca from 1974 onwards)? or ONLY when venues began advertising "Modern Soul" nights as such? (ie. 1979/80 Soul Sam et.al.)

In answer to this, I would remind some people who were not doing so, that those of us who were buying these often obscure, small label recordings as new releases in the mid-late 70s DID refer to them as "modern soul" records at the time (what else would we call them?) - even though there was no DJ or venue at that time devoted to playing them under that particular banner! (Blackpool Mecca having moved on to become a Jazz Funk venue by then)

In fact, by the time a separate "Rare Seventies" scene got underway, the thread with Blackpool Mecca had been almost broken and it was all a case of "too little, too late" for many of the former Blackpool Mecca punters who would have been it's natural supporters in earlier times. In my view, though welcome, the later "Rare Seventies" scene dragged way too much baggage from the old Northern Scene along with it, namely the focus on absolute rarity at the expense of quality, which prevented the much earlier acceptance of many worthwhile recordings just because they were on mainstream labels, or were by well known artists.

In addition, the wide variety of subtle styles and tempos that were such a feature of Seventies Soul at the time, were often ignored (because the new converts didn't recognise them as such!), in favour of a more narrow definition, which owed more to a particular type of exclusively UPTEMPO dance record that bridged the gap to the old Northern Soul scene from where the "new" Modern Scene had sprung. There is still much evidence of this attitude in some quarters. What some people regard as classic "Seventies" style soul recordings, I regard as narrow and stereotyped and this is a direct result of certain DJs favouring these early "traditional" Northern Soul influences in the early 1980s. I hesitate to name names.

In short, I would (personally) regard the ideal "Modern Scene" as being an amalgam of the southern "Rare Groove" scene, and the best of the "Rare Seventies" type playlists from such venues as Thorne, which would of course always include appropriate brand new recordings. This would more accurately reflect the wide range of Black American music on offer in the 1970s and early 80s and be closer to the true "Spirit of The Mecca" that I try to adhere to!

Edited March 22, 2007 by mel brat

[Guest mel brat]

"YET" IS THE RIGHT WORD MEL, AS IT MAY NOT BE LONG COMING.

I'M CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING A DEAL FOR THAT TESCO ADVERTISING CAMPAIN ITSELF.

BELOYD WAS PART OF THE GROUP "AFTERBACH", OF WHICH AN ANAGRAM IS "HER FAB CAT"

AND THIS IS THE SLOGAN WE INTEND TO RUN WITH. BET THAT'S SURPRISED YOU ?

MARTIN SNOW

Nothing would surprise me these days Martin. Nothing at all.

Edited March 22, 2007 by mel brat

[Guest]

This would more accurately reflect the wide range of Black American music on offer in the 1970s and early 80s and be closer to the true "Spirit of The Mecca" that I try to adhere to!

as with the forementioned reply and the quote: nice.. well put and solid feedback.

Not to divert the thread here, but what always suprises me is that so many quality tunes turned up on the Modern scene that blew the pants off of more commercially accessable chart toppers, yet they didn't see the light of day here in the states. I know this is not a new quandary, but really let's be honest. I can only use songs that I've come to love as good examples, but why didn't something like "I Want You" by The Exportations hit the charts here in the States during that period? I should probably be asking the folks on the Billboard forum, but they most likely would need more info about the single. Were those groups I'm hearing and finding on the Modern lists THAT out of touch with most of popular America and popular radio? And maybe were those singles THAT Rare? I guess that's a question for the collectors. And maybe this is for another thread, but it really is puzzling. As a lover of Soul and 70's Soul I look to the UK for inspiration for those hidden American Dance treasures of the 70s. As a Music Business student, I could easily assume a reason based on Industry demands, faults, etc.. But in the end, it just never ceases to amaze me.

But then again, that's not the topic at hand.. so back with the thread. lost my point..

carry on.

Edited March 22, 2007 by SoulBoy74

[Mark68]

ps. check out Jonte's Disco / Modern Soul mix here on the thread.. wheewwww.. what a great great Rare Disco Modern mix!! Includes Ujima, Exportations, Patterson Twins, Norman Connors, plus more..

https://www.clubunderstanding.com/mixar/JontesModernMix.mp3 - Jonte, hope you don't mind friend, but let's be honest, it's a great run of tunes!

Can someone please remind me what the track is inbetween Winfield Parker & Delegation ? Thanks.

[Guest]

Can someone please remind me what the track is inbetween Winfield Parker & Delegation ? Thanks.

Moses-I Got My Mind Together [Piedmont]

I hope Jonte doesn't mind that I posted his mix

but really, it's a slammin' mix. i haven't been able to listen to anything else all week!!

ps. re original question: Is Modern Soul growing??

I would have to say. I think it was the Jan. issue of the North East Soul Union's monthly fanzine, Jason Stirland said some really interesting things about the current appreciation of Modern/Rare Disco. I think, from what I've observed, there is certainly a large number of fans growing across the globe. But I could be wrong. I don't know how the Culture has ebb and flowed throughout the last say 20 years.

anyone?

[Guest]

For a big bite of the "Modern Soul" style as it stands today the new CD compilation "Soul Desirables" takes some beating.

It's been compiled by Geoff Bingham and is full of obscure and rare mixes, remixes and unreleased tracks from 1995 to the present day.

Geoff doesn't post on any of the forums at all to my knowledge, but is at the very forefront of the Modern Soul vanguard, constantly finding the new and obscure tracks which later find their way onto other DJ's playlists.

Theres a review (fourth paragraph down) here -

https://www.soulwalking.co.uk/Listen%20Out%20For.html

[Guest in town Mikey]

Modern Soul was invented so Soul Sourcers could argue when there arent any Ian Levine threads.

I think it was some loon who came up with a hairbrained idea that there had to be some kind of 'soul' in the record.

Honestly some people!

[Guest Rich]

I'm afraid I'm getting something of a reputation on here for continually banging on about Blackpool Mecca (sometimes with good reason, it has to be said!) However, when I see how folk who are comparitive newcomers to the UK Soul Scene actually view, and sometimes misinterpret, the history and development of Soul in the North, I sometimes feel the need to respond and correct a few popular misconceptions! So here we go again...

As far as the North is concerned, Blackpool Mecca played the pivotal role in the change toward a more contemporary playlist. This shift in music policy from (usually) uptempo 60s recordings in favour of a more "modern" playlist was initiated in 1974. Though new or recent releases had been played in Northern Soul clubs prior to that date, they were almost always recordings that shared a common tempo, and similar production to, those of the sixties.

During the period 1974-1976, Ian Levine and Colin Curtis, the DJs at the Highland Room at Blackpool Mecca, were the first to adopt a programme of change that allowed seventies recordings to be accepted alongside the more traditional Northern Soul "stompers" This lead to splits in audience with the Mecca followers responding to the varied rhythms of the new playlists, with new dancestyles and different modes of dress to what were previously common on the scene.

What we call either the Seventies scene or Modern Scene have subtle distinctions depending on the venue and contemporary definitions, however both can be ultimately traced back to the playlists of Blackpool Mecca to which was added the later influence of Soul Sam, Thorne and the input of various other DJs, collectors and venues. There are several threads currently running on this site which are related to this particular story. As for the range of music played, dates of recording etc., reading through the playlists is probably the best way to guage what is popular.

you need to add Cleethorpes Pier to the above - many records broke at the Pier have wrongly been accredited to the Highland Room. Maybe something to do with it wasn't ego's at ten paces on the East coast.

Much better Fish and Chips as well

[Guest mel brat]

you need to add Cleethorpes Pier to the above - many records broke at the Pier have wrongly been accredited to the Highland Room. Maybe something to do with it wasn't ego's at ten paces on the East coast.

Much better Fish and Chips as well

Equally, many records "broken" at Cleethorpes (and other places) were initially aired at The Mecca, but as the Mecca wasn't an large allnighter, several people insist on forgetting that simple fact! I'll give credit to a few "modern" sides possibly first played at Cleethorpes (Roger Collins perhaps), but Cleethorpes also spun the totally appalling RAIN, a record I'd gladly cross the country to avoid!

The other significant point I'm continually having to make is that venues such as Cleethorpes would not have been able to get away with playing ANY seventies modern soul recordings had Ian Levine at the Mecca not opened the doors to this possibility earlier! Whatever seventies records were played at Cleethorpes, it was essentially a NORTHERN SOUL allnighter, whereas the Mecca was becoming something else entirely.

Finally, in regard to providing the best fish n' chips, I reckon the Midlands wins hands down, so we'll have to agree to differ in that department as well!

Edited March 22, 2007 by mel brat

[Steve G]

Sorry guys I just do not view the Mecca stuff as being modern soul. It was never termed as such at the time and it certainly doesn't sound modern. I do understand you could argue it was modern at the time compared to 60's.

To me modern soul is post Y2K stuff.

In the early 80's the term was used to describe what was then modern soul (i.e. releases from 1977-1984 etc) - i.e. the Sam, Arthur Richard etc spins of that period. However I don't think you can use the same phrase to describe these records 25 years on.

I prefer the term 70s / 80s soul, as I think it is more descriptive.

Steve

[Simon M]

Sorry guys I just do not view the Mecca stuff as being modern soul. It was never termed as such at the time and it certainly doesn't sound modern. I do understand you could argue it was modern at the time compared to 60's.

To me modern soul is post Y2K stuff.

In the early 80's the term was used to describe what was then modern soul (i.e. releases from 1977-1984 etc) - i.e. the Sam, Arthur Richard etc spins of that period. However I don't think you can use the same phrase to describe these records 25 years on.

I prefer the term 70s / 80s soul, as I think it is more descriptive.

Steve

Same here Steve , I think the Modern Soul term , ( in some people minds today) encompasses things like Crossover ,funky and Mecca sounds .. Descriptions like 70's and 80's soul, sound good for today ..At least that way I can go to a night an expect some 80's , as it would say it on the wrapper

ps, Best fish and Chips , Broadstairs for me , Big Chunk of Cod , and big floppy chips

Edited March 23, 2007 by Simon M

[Guest Dodger]

Sorry guys I just do not view the Mecca stuff as being modern soul. It was never termed as such at the time and it certainly doesn't sound modern. I do understand you could argue it was modern at the time compared to 60's.

To me modern soul is post Y2K stuff.

In the early 80's the term was used to describe what was then modern soul (i.e. releases from 1977-1984 etc) - i.e. the Sam, Arthur Richard etc spins of that period. However I don't think you can use the same phrase to describe these records 25 years on.

I prefer the term 70s / 80s soul, as I think it is more descriptive.

Steve

In what is usually a fruitless debate, that certainly sums it up perfectly for me, Steve.

[Guest Dodger]

For a big bite of the "Modern Soul" style as it stands today the new CD compilation "Soul Desirables" takes some beating.

It's been compiled by Geoff Bingham and is full of obscure and rare mixes, remixes and unreleased tracks from 1995 to the present day.

Have to concur with that album being the best contemporary soul comp around right now, a brilliant effort from Geoffrey, and Ralph Tee of course. Geoff, over the last few years, has been the only radio DJ I made a point of tuning in to when he was on air. He needs to sort himself a sponsor and get his arse back on Solar.

[Simon M]

Hey Roger , your in a very good mood today

[Guest Dodger]

Hey Roger , your in a very good mood today

I'm always in a good mood me old Son of Sam, surely you know that by now mate?

[Simon M]

I'm always in a good mood me old Son of Sam, surely you know that by now mate?

You ****** dont say things like that whilst Steve G is around ,

Edited March 23, 2007 by Simon M

[Guest Dodger]

You ****** dont say things like that whilst Steve G is around ,

I thought Steve was Sam's brother and you were his love child? It's what Gary Lee told me anyway.

[Simon M]

Steve is way too young to be Sam's brother Mr Williams . Stop being silly and stupid . .. and Gary is more worried about his rare boogie and stepper records being audio hi-jacked to say anything but ..

"My precious vinyl , my precious , my precious "

Edited March 23, 2007 by Simon M

[Guest Dodger]

I thought the new terminology for records was now 'vinylS'

Paul Philips once told me that Gary Lee was actually your Dad?

Edited March 23, 2007 by Dodger

[Simon M]

I thought the new terminology for records was now 'vinylS'

Paul Philips once told me that Gary Lee was actually your Dad?

Gary Lee is a virgin

[Steve G]

I thought Steve was Sam's brother and you were his love child? It's what Gary Lee told me anyway.

You cheeky beggar - and please leave my vinyls out of it too.....

[Peter99]

Modern soul is good - there's no doubt about it.

[Guest]

I prefer the term 70s / 80s soul, as I think it is more descriptive.

Steve

I have to say, personally, I like this. This is especially effective when speaking with people outside of the Culture.

nice one.

J-

[Simon M]

I have to say, personally, I like this. This is especially effective when speaking with people outside of the Culture.

nice one.

J-

Even within the culture it would be more effective , as you can turn up at a UK Modern soul gig these days and only here 1970 to 1977 recordings played

[Guest soulgirlie]

Even within the culture it would be more effective , as you can turn up at a UK Modern soul gig these days and only here 1970 to 1977 recordings played

I would class that as an "oldies" night

Modern soul to me is about new music not music thats 30 to 40 years old ..how can that be "modern " ?

Lin

[Simon M]

I would class that as an "oldies" night

Modern soul to me is about new music not music thats 30 to 40 years old ..how can that be "modern " ?

Lin

Yes Lin that why we need to drop the term Modern Soul .

[Guest]

I would class that as an "oldies" night

Modern soul to me is about new music not music thats 30 to 40 years old ..how can that be "modern " ?

Lin

I think it's always going to boil down to the context of the situtation. Amongst enthusiasts, (within the Culture) I think the term can be undestood as 'Modern' (7ts & 8ts Soul) from a particular period, of course we know the clubs.

But for someone who doesn't know the association or what term Modern means, it would be a bit more clear to state 70's & 80's Soul and also to potentially include 'Rare 70ts & 80ts Soul.

I know locally when I say 'Modern' many people immediately identify the term with contemporary. So in that respect, literally, the term Modern is in fact contemporary music.

But when I say to you all here, 'Man, that Pages tune is one hell of a Modern single', I think we can all understand the association of the term to the particular period.

?? or maybe it's the coffee..

probably an age ol' discussion, but one for me that I seek to solidify as I am currently pursuing a degree in to teach Music History with an emphasis on Soul and Dance culture.

additionally, everyone's input is always respected!

[Val (Chunky)]

something you may hear whilst shopping in tescos

[Simon M]

Hey J , you'll have to learn about Chi-steppers , Deepfunk , 60's newies , Crossover , and Popcorn too !

ps. What is Popcorn

[Barry]

Modern, to me, is late 70's/early 80's stuff, as the term was coined on our scene specifically to explain stuff played at nighters from that era at that time.

If I was pushed, the purist in me would like to say mainly independant stuff but you can't leave played all nighter records by major recording artists like Keni Burke, Norman Connors, The Pockets and the like out of the discussion.

If I see 'Modern Soul' I immediately think of the above - although no doubt it will mean different things to differnet people.

[Guest soulgirlie]

Its no big deal really we just make it into one with all the labels ..soul music is like anything else in life to me , if its modern then its now / the present / up to date /new/ contemporary ..whatever term you want to call it if you insist on giving it labels , if its older then its retro and for descriptive purposes can be defined by its decade ..ie 70ts 80ts 90ts etc ...easy really or is that just feminine logic

Lin

[Guest]

70ts 80ts 90ts etc ...easy really or is that just feminine logic

Lin

I think you might be on to something here... hahaha! But we'll leave that for another discussion: Feminist perspectives on Soul music. haha! I'll have my other half jump in on this one, she'll be ready to go!

Edited March 23, 2007 by SoulBoy74

[Guest]

Hey J , you'll have to learn about Chi-steppers , Deepfunk , 60's newies , Crossover , and Popcorn too !

ps. What is Popcorn

Deepfunk - got it

6ts newies - got it

Crossover - ? got it

Chi-Steppers?? that's a new one..

Popcorn? Would that be early Funk 64 -69? I kid.. But I think you mean in relation to Funk yes?

[Simon M]

Deepfunk - got it

6ts newies - got it

Crossover - ? got it

Chi-Steppers?? that's a new one..

Popcorn? Would that be early Funk 64 -69? I kid.. But I think you mean in relation to Funk yes?

Its USA thang https://steppersexpress.com/about.htm ,

https://www.soulexpress.net/daproducers.htm

Oh yeah youve got Beach and Shagging there too

Edited March 23, 2007 by Simon M

[Sebastian]

Popcorn? Would that be early Funk 64 -69? I kid.. But I think you mean in relation to Funk yes?

No, he's probably on about the Popcorn scene in Belgium... you're in for a treat trying to get to grips with that one...

Check this out:

https://www.popcornoldies.be/

[Simon M]

No, he's probably on about the Popcorn scene in Belgium... you're in for a treat trying to get to grips with that one...

Check this out:

https://www.popcornoldies.be/

Oh no thats the one .. No body poppin , or minimal electro beats there

[Guest]

Its USA thang https://steppersexpress.com/about.htm ,

https://www.soulexpress.net/daproducers.htm

Oh yeah youve got Beach and Shagging there too

NICE!!

Got the Beach thing down..

oh! and Shagging - I think we have a different term here for that here.

[Simon M]

NICE!!

Got the Beach thing down..

oh! and Shagging - I think we have a different term here for that here.

plus the Washington Go Go scene .. Chuck Brown some good stuff from there

[Guest]

No, he's probably on about the Popcorn scene in Belgium... you're in for a treat trying to get to grips with that one...

Check this out:

https://www.popcornoldies.be/

WHAAAT???? that is absolutely amazing! I love it! I have theory about foreign appreciations such as that one. that's great!

[Guest]

No, he's probably on about the Popcorn scene in Belgium... you're in for a treat trying to get to grips with that one...

Check this out:

https://www.popcornoldies.be/

WHAAAT???? that is absolutely amazing! I love it! I have theory about foreign appreciations such as that one. that's great!

[Lloydee]

As Gavin Page once told me; side to side is Northern Soul and forwards & backwards is Modern Soul.

You work the beat/rhythm out and there you are, you have your style