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2 hours ago, Mal C said:

Oh wow, I never knew that, the two other versions being Lp and relesed 45 right?

** Just checked my Calla Lp, thats not on there, so two other different 45 releases?

It has male backing whereas the two 45s have none

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3 hours ago, Mal C said:

Oh wow, I never knew that, the two other versions being Lp and relesed 45 right?

** Just checked my Calla Lp, thats not on there, so two other different 45 releases?

More like subtly different mixes than versions to be honest Mal , C-143 and C-152. One's a tad 'brighter' (152).

 

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23 hours ago, Zanetti said:
  • Blenders-just an ordinary guy  c/u 
  • Mighty Lovers-they are saying c/u
  • Mill Edwards-just like the weather-Exodus acetate
  • Martha Jean Love-old time lover c/u
  • Perfections-just cant leave you
  • Perfections-my imagination
  • Bessie Banks-i want a guarantee Columbia acetate 
  • Devonnes-doin’ the gittin up  RCA Custom acetate 
  • Derek Martin-flash back-Associated acetate
  • Primers-how does it grab you-loch Sound acetate (alt. version)
  • The Chymes-Im walking in the park-acetate
  • Hopkins Bros-shake sherri-Magnetik
  • Sharon Soul & the Rich Tees-been hearing about you c/u (Sweet Tones acetate)
  • Vessie Simmons-got to have your love c/u 
  • Larry Williams-cause I'm a soul brother c/u
  • Mandells-love is so wonderful c/u
  • Agents-trouble-Impact Sound (alt. version)
  • De-lites-trouble-AMS acetate (alt version)
  • E Rodney Jones-you brought out the good in me c/u
  • Brenda Holloway-dont turn you back on me 10” Motown acetate
  • JB Hammond-kiss me baby c/u  
  • Ivey Joe Hunter-where are you 10” Motown acetate
  • Porgy Williams-there goes the fool 
  • Tyrone Thomas-baby cant you see-Allegro acetate
  • Herman Lewis-good things come to those who wait-acetate
  • Kenny Carlton-I gotta talk to you
  • Ken Barker-see how bad i wanna love you-Groovesville acetate
  • Big Tim & Empires-your turn to be blue-Mecury acetate
  • August Moon-don’t tell me no lies-Gotham acetate.
  • Tommy & Derbys-goin back to Houston-Kool
  • Intrepids-you dont love me c/u 
  • Pipkin Brothers-that’s why I love you 
  • Diplomats-run back to my lovin arms c/u 
  • Brenda Starr-satan let me sleep 2016 (alt. version)
  • give me time to think it over-United acetate (unreleased Thelma)
  • Speed Limit-take it from me c/u 
  • Little Dooley-got to help me find my baby c/u  
  • Billy Wisdom-I wish I was c/u
  • Voicemasters-dance inst.
  • Roe-o-tation-special category 2018 (alt. version)
  • Richard Caiton-reflections-Uptight
  • Emeralds-beware-Vick  
  • Bobby Paris-please say it’s not so c/u
  • Ring Masters-moonlight lovers c/u  
  • Adlibs-love is knocking at my heart Bell Sound acetate
  • Len Jewel-dynamite lover c/u 
  • The Butlers-I don't understand it
  • Four Tracks-like a love I never had c/u
  • Sugar Pie Desanto-guess who c/u 
  • Johnny Brantley-have pity on a fool like me c/u
  • Clarence Townsend-getting my life straight c/u
  • Profiles-is it my girl that’s putting me through it c/u
  • Charlene & soul serenaders-can you win-Paradox
  • The Belairs-I got the feeling-Virtue (alt. version)
  • Original Matadors-searching for love c/u  
  • Marvin Sims-that’s what she told me c/u  
  • Ed Townsend & Tru-Glows-it’s a lonely night c/u  
  • And the Echoes-my love for you c/u 
  • Van McCoy-so soon April Blackwood acetate
  • Exits-cool operator c/u  
  • Debonairs-it was a dream c/u  
  • West Coast Distributors-Ive been deserted c/u 
  • Vashionettes-say yes c/u 
  • Trends-don’t dance so close c/u 
  • Topics-I could never find a nicer girl-Sound Plus
  • Gentlemen Four-in this world
  • Rudy Love-who’s fooling you c/u 
  • Alder Ray-what are you trying to do to me-Master
  • Herb Ward-Im so glad-Virtue acetate 
  • Milestones-girl I'm too much man  c/u  
  • Unknown artist-in one ear-Virtue
  • Albert Jones-security & satisfaction c/u 
  • Imperial Wonders-I love her so c/u 
  • South Coast Connection-one step ahead inst. c/u 
  • A Case of Time-Ive got to take it c/u 
  • Bill Bush & greater exp.-girl dry you tears c/u 
  • Soulful Core-come on & show me c/u 
  • Judy Freeman-does he wonder c/u 
  • Uptights-you bring out the love c/u 
  • Full Force-you’re looking good c/u 
  • Mitchell Hawkins & Choice of Love-I don't want to lose you acetate
  • Masters of Soul-oh girl don’t let go  c/u  
  • Randy & Radiants-it’s over c/u (alt. Bands of Gold)
  • Noble & Uptights-dont wory about it-Action
  • Bobby  in the same roomJones-stop-acetate
  • 5 Perfections-you can do it c/u
  • Ray Frazier-my baby’s hand-Wright Sound
  • Cindy Scott-heartaches & pain c/u 
  • Eddie Alexander-fix it man c/u
  • Willie Newman & Del Reys-love done past me by-acetate
  • Profiles-I still love you-Universal acetate (alt. version)
  • Ike Perry & Lyrics-dont turn around-Cleveland acetate 
  • Joe Adams-stop-Frankford Wayne acetate 
  • Richard Anthony-no good-Virtue acetate (alt. take)
  • Don Hart-turn back-Mary Jane
  • Alvin Glover-call me baby c/u
  • United Sounds-its all over-United

Can you point us to where we might here these? i.e, on tinternet.

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A few more but the memory is a bit hazy. Possibly not exclusives but definitely rare tunes that Butch championed.

Antellects- Love Slave

Johnny Praye -Can’t Get Too Much Love

Gallahads - I’ve Got To Find A Way

Stormie Wynters - Life Saver

Les Watson & Panthers - Occasionally I Cry

Pee Wee, Shuck & Huey - Beside Myself

Butch’s playbox has always been packed full of goodies eg Professionals, Ray Agee, Tranells etc…He also gave Walter And The Admirations -Man O Man the push it deserved after I think Pat Brady had spun the other side. Butch’s salesbox would put many DJ’s in the shade.

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8 minutes ago, Marc Forrest said:

Not all correct but to name just two: The late Boba was the first to had unearthed Emeralds on Vick, United Sounds by Greg Belson (fun fact I had Mark alongside Greg as guest DJ`s at one of my anniversaries when Greg not knowing Mark was playing the US as a C/UP dropped the needle on it with all DJ`s in the room rushing to the decks to see what it is. Mark was sitting next to me...the look on his face was priceless LOL

Also wouldn’t the emeralds play side be “catch me I’m falling” ? Rather than “beware” Marc?  
 

lee 
 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Dobber said:

Wasn’t aware of this version,I have to say it’s pretty poor,also it sounds like karaoke,I appreciate it nice to see these things appear,but that’s remained acetate only for a reason😂

Hear, hear!

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2 hours ago, Dobber said:

Wasn’t aware of this version,I have to say it’s pretty poor,also it sounds like karaoke,I appreciate it nice to see these things appear,but that’s remained acetate only for a reason😂

I think the vocal is great

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On 16/08/2024 at 18:10, Zanetti said:
  • Blenders-just an ordinary guy  c/u 
  • Mighty Lovers-they are saying c/u
  • Mill Edwards-just like the weather-Exodus acetate
  • Martha Jean Love-old time lover c/u
  • Perfections-just cant leave you
  • Perfections-my imagination
  • Bessie Banks-i want a guarantee Columbia acetate 
  • Devonnes-doin’ the gittin up  RCA Custom acetate 
  • Derek Martin-flash back-Associated acetate
  • Primers-how does it grab you-loch Sound acetate (alt. version)
  • The Chymes-Im walking in the park-acetate
  • Hopkins Bros-shake sherri-Magnetik
  • Sharon Soul & the Rich Tees-been hearing about you c/u (Sweet Tones acetate)
  • Vessie Simmons-got to have your love c/u 
  • Larry Williams-cause I'm a soul brother c/u
  • Mandells-love is so wonderful c/u
  • Agents-trouble-Impact Sound (alt. version)
  • De-lites-trouble-AMS acetate (alt version)
  • E Rodney Jones-you brought out the good in me c/u
  • Brenda Holloway-dont turn you back on me 10” Motown acetate
  • JB Hammond-kiss me baby c/u  
  • Ivey Joe Hunter-where are you 10” Motown acetate
  • Porgy Williams-there goes the fool 
  • Tyrone Thomas-baby cant you see-Allegro acetate
  • Herman Lewis-good things come to those who wait-acetate
  • Kenny Carlton-I gotta talk to you
  • Ken Barker-see how bad i wanna love you-Groovesville acetate
  • Big Tim & Empires-your turn to be blue-Mecury acetate
  • August Moon-don’t tell me no lies-Gotham acetate.
  • Tommy & Derbys-goin back to Houston-Kool
  • Intrepids-you dont love me c/u 
  • Pipkin Brothers-that’s why I love you 
  • Diplomats-run back to my lovin arms c/u 
  • Brenda Starr-satan let me sleep 2016 (alt. version)
  • give me time to think it over-United acetate (unreleased Thelma)
  • Speed Limit-take it from me c/u 
  • Little Dooley-got to help me find my baby c/u  
  • Billy Wisdom-I wish I was c/u
  • Voicemasters-dance inst.
  • Roe-o-tation-special category 2018 (alt. version)
  • Richard Caiton-reflections-Uptight
  • Emeralds-beware-Vick  
  • Bobby Paris-please say it’s not so c/u
  • Ring Masters-moonlight lovers c/u  
  • Adlibs-love is knocking at my heart Bell Sound acetate
  • Len Jewel-dynamite lover c/u 
  • The Butlers-I don't understand it
  • Four Tracks-like a love I never had c/u
  • Sugar Pie Desanto-guess who c/u 
  • Johnny Brantley-have pity on a fool like me c/u
  • Clarence Townsend-getting my life straight c/u
  • Profiles-is it my girl that’s putting me through it c/u
  • Charlene & soul serenaders-can you win-Paradox
  • The Belairs-I got the feeling-Virtue (alt. version)
  • Original Matadors-searching for love c/u  
  • Marvin Sims-that’s what she told me c/u  
  • Ed Townsend & Tru-Glows-it’s a lonely night c/u  
  • And the Echoes-my love for you c/u 
  • Van McCoy-so soon April Blackwood acetate
  • Exits-cool operator c/u  
  • Debonairs-it was a dream c/u  
  • West Coast Distributors-Ive been deserted c/u 
  • Vashionettes-say yes c/u 
  • Trends-don’t dance so close c/u 
  • Topics-I could never find a nicer girl-Sound Plus
  • Gentlemen Four-in this world
  • Rudy Love-who’s fooling you c/u 
  • Alder Ray-what are you trying to do to me-Master
  • Herb Ward-Im so glad-Virtue acetate 
  • Milestones-girl I'm too much man  c/u  
  • Unknown artist-in one ear-Virtue
  • Albert Jones-security & satisfaction c/u 
  • Imperial Wonders-I love her so c/u 
  • South Coast Connection-one step ahead inst. c/u 
  • A Case of Time-Ive got to take it c/u 
  • Bill Bush & greater exp.-girl dry you tears c/u 
  • Soulful Core-come on & show me c/u 
  • Judy Freeman-does he wonder c/u 
  • Uptights-you bring out the love c/u 
  • Full Force-you’re looking good c/u 
  • Mitchell Hawkins & Choice of Love-I don't want to lose you acetate
  • Masters of Soul-oh girl don’t let go  c/u  
  • Randy & Radiants-it’s over c/u (alt. Bands of Gold)
  • Noble & Uptights-dont wory about it-Action
  • Bobby Jones-stop-acetate
  • 5 Perfections-you can do it c/u
  • Ray Frazier-my baby’s hand-Wright Sound
  • Cindy Scott-heartaches & pain c/u 
  • Eddie Alexander-fix it man c/u
  • Willie Newman & Del Reys-love done past me by-acetate
  • Profiles-I still love you-Universal acetate (alt. version)
  • Ike Perry & Lyrics-dont turn around-Cleveland acetate 
  • Joe Adams-stop-Frankford Wayne acetate 
  • Richard Anthony-no good-Virtue acetate (alt. take)
  • Don Hart-turn back-Mary Jane
  • Alvin Glover-call me baby c/u
  • United Sounds-its all over-United

I would be very interested to know whether some c/u are already known or have been uncovered?
Does anyone here have any truthful information?

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19 minutes ago, Zanetti said:

I would be very interested to know whether some c/u are already known or have been uncovered?
Does anyone here have any truthful information?

A lot of the acetates are uncredited , so names have been attributed to them , rather than being cover-ups per se.

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10 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

A lot of the acetates are uncredited , so names have been attributed to them , rather than being cover-ups per se.

but not all of them - there must probably also be classic “vinyl” c/u's ... what do you think?

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6 hours ago, Dobber said:

Wasn’t aware of this version,I have to say it’s pretty poor,also it sounds like karaoke,I appreciate it nice to see these things appear,but that’s remained acetate only for a reason😂

Is this the version that Butch plays I'm not aware of any other take/version?

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On 17/08/2024 at 13:44, Mal C said:

Oh wow, I never knew that, the two other versions being Lp and relesed 45 right?

** Just checked my Calla Lp, thats not on there, so two other different 45 releases?

There’s an instrumental version that Mark plays as well 

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Rozetta Johnson -wherever I m yours C/U 

Ruby Andrews Acetate 

Veda - "You Make Me Feel So Real 

Fresh  That s the way It is 

There are several modern records and Ballad that I only heard him playing in Bamberg or Crossover venues, all fab records..Butch is own his league 

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6 minutes ago, Mal C said:

Not to blow this thread in a different direction, but on unreleased acetates and all that, I have a list below that I have MP3's on,  with no info as to who, where etc... maybe folks can fill in the blanks? If they are / have been Butch spins,  cool....

Lebaron Strings - I Have Faith In You (inst) This acetate was sold by Mick Smith well over a decade ago, I missed out on it, but its the same as Doni Burdick as far as I can tell.

Vivian Carroll - Oh Yeah Yeah (long intro) - I guess the orig cut, the 45 got the shortened to a radio edit?

Jimmy Bishop Trio - If You Can't Be True - nothing on this what so ever.

Clay Fulton - One Hundred Years (Unreleased) - no idea, good though

Jimmy Sherman - My Heart's Wide Open - no idea, good though

Charlotte O'Hara - The Touch Of Venus - dreadful version, but interesting none the least...

Billy Vera - People That's Why - version of Idle Few, great record, maybe Billy was in the Idle Few?

Shane Martin - I Don't Want To Talk About It - lack lustre version of Nancy Aimes

Little Charles & The Sidewinders - Win Your Love

Dee Dee Sharp - I'll Do Anything He Wants Me To

And the biggies for me, this is brilliant, The Skyliners - All The Time acetate, and Detroit Rhythm Section - Backstreets, which was a Guy Hennighan spin for sure, does he still have that?

Malc

** was also, De-Lites - Lover (alt. version) that I think Pete Smith saw on Ebay, ages ago, he managed to grab the MP3, hense we all got it, but the acetate, wonder who go that, did it end up in the uk or Stateside?

 

Mark got the Delites acetate, Lifeline I think the first place he played it after getting it.  Lebaron Strings was Guy, Jimmy Sherman was Andy Dyson

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24 minutes ago, Mal C said:

Not to blow this thread in a different direction, but on unreleased acetates and all that, I have a list below that I have MP3's on,  with no info as to who, where etc... maybe folks can fill in the blanks? If they are / have been Butch spins,  cool....

Lebaron Strings - I Have Faith In You (inst) This acetate was sold by Mick Smith well over a decade ago, I missed out on it, but its the same as Doni Burdick as far as I can tell.

Vivian Carroll - Oh Yeah Yeah (long intro) - I guess the orig cut, the 45 got the shortened to a radio edit?

Jimmy Bishop Trio - If You Can't Be True - nothing on this what so ever.

Clay Fulton - One Hundred Years (Unreleased) - no idea, good though

Jimmy Sherman - My Heart's Wide Open - no idea, good though

Charlotte O'Hara - The Touch Of Venus - dreadful version, but interesting none the least...

Billy Vera - People That's Why - version of Idle Few, great record, maybe Billy was in the Idle Few?

Shane Martin - I Don't Want To Talk About It - lack lustre version of Nancy Aimes

Little Charles & The Sidewinders - Win Your Love

Dee Dee Sharp - I'll Do Anything He Wants Me To

And the biggies for me, this is brilliant, The Skyliners - All The Time acetate, and Detroit Rhythm Section - Backstreets, which was a Guy Hennighan spin for sure, does he still have that?

Malc

** if I might, also, De-Lites - Lover (alt version) that I think Pete Smith saw this on Ebay, years and years ago, he managed to grab the MP3, hense we all got it, but the acetate, I wonder who got that, did it end up in the uk or Stateside, or Europe?

 

Mal, I agree the Skyliners track is brilliant.

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4 hours ago, Mal C said:

Not to blow this thread in a different direction, but on unreleased acetates and all that, I have a list below that I have MP3's on,  with no info as to who, where etc... maybe folks can fill in the blanks? If they are / have been Butch spins,  cool....

Lebaron Strings - I Have Faith In You (inst) This acetate was sold by Mick Smith well over a decade ago, I missed out on it, but its the same as Doni Burdick as far as I can tell.

Vivian Carroll - Oh Yeah Yeah (long intro) - I guess the orig cut, the 45 got the shortened to a radio edit?

Jimmy Bishop Trio - If You Can't Be True - nothing on this what so ever.

Clay Fulton - One Hundred Years (Unreleased) - no idea, good though

Jimmy Sherman - My Heart's Wide Open - no idea, good though

Charlotte O'Hara - The Touch Of Venus - dreadful version, but interesting none the least...

Billy Vera - People That's Why - version of Idle Few, great record, maybe Billy was in the Idle Few?

Shane Martin - I Don't Want To Talk About It - lack lustre version of Nancy Aimes

Little Charles & The Sidewinders - Win Your Love

Dee Dee Sharp - I'll Do Anything He Wants Me To

And the biggies for me, this is brilliant, The Skyliners - All The Time acetate, and Detroit Rhythm Section - Backstreets, which was a Guy Hennighan spin for sure, does he still have that?

Malc

** if I might, also, De-Lites - Lover (alt version) that I think Pete Smith saw this on Ebay, years and years ago, he managed to grab the MP3, hense we all got it, but the acetate, I wonder who got that, did it end up in the uk or Stateside, or Europe?

 

Russ used to play the “ I Have Faith “ inst at Wigan 

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On 16/08/2024 at 17:10, Zanetti said:
  • Blenders-just an ordinary guy  c/u 
  • Mighty Lovers-they are saying c/u
  • Mill Edwards-just like the weather-Exodus acetate
  • Martha Jean Love-old time lover c/u
  • Perfections-just cant leave you
  • Perfections-my imagination
  • Bessie Banks-i want a guarantee Columbia acetate 
  • Devonnes-doin’ the gittin up  RCA Custom acetate 
  • Derek Martin-flash back-Associated acetate
  • Primers-how does it grab you-loch Sound acetate (alt. version)
  • The Chymes-Im walking in the park-acetate
  • Hopkins Bros-shake sherri-Magnetik
  • Sharon Soul & the Rich Tees-been hearing about you c/u (Sweet Tones acetate)
  • Vessie Simmons-got to have your love c/u 
  • Larry Williams-cause I'm a soul brother c/u
  • Mandells-love is so wonderful c/u
  • Agents-trouble-Impact Sound (alt. version)
  • De-lites-trouble-AMS acetate (alt version)
  • E Rodney Jones-you brought out the good in me c/u
  • Brenda Holloway-dont turn you back on me 10” Motown acetate
  • JB Hammond-kiss me baby c/u  
  • Ivey Joe Hunter-where are you 10” Motown acetate
  • Porgy Williams-there goes the fool 
  • Tyrone Thomas-baby cant you see-Allegro acetate
  • Herman Lewis-good things come to those who wait-acetate
  • Kenny Carlton-I gotta talk to you
  • Ken Barker-see how bad i wanna love you-Groovesville acetate
  • Big Tim & Empires-your turn to be blue-Mecury acetate
  • August Moon-don’t tell me no lies-Gotham acetate.
  • Tommy & Derbys-goin back to Houston-Kool
  • Intrepids-you dont love me c/u 
  • Pipkin Brothers-that’s why I love you 
  • Diplomats-run back to my lovin arms c/u 
  • Brenda Starr-satan let me sleep 2016 (alt. version)
  • give me time to think it over-United acetate (unreleased Thelma)
  • Speed Limit-take it from me c/u 
  • Little Dooley-got to help me find my baby c/u  
  • Billy Wisdom-I wish I was c/u
  • Voicemasters-dance inst.
  • Roe-o-tation-special category 2018 (alt. version)
  • Richard Caiton-reflections-Uptight
  • Emeralds-beware-Vick  
  • Bobby Paris-please say it’s not so c/u
  • Ring Masters-moonlight lovers c/u  
  • Adlibs-love is knocking at my heart Bell Sound acetate
  • Len Jewel-dynamite lover c/u 
  • The Butlers-I don't understand it
  • Four Tracks-like a love I never had c/u
  • Sugar Pie Desanto-guess who c/u 
  • Johnny Brantley-have pity on a fool like me c/u
  • Clarence Townsend-getting my life straight c/u
  • Profiles-is it my girl that’s putting me through it c/u
  • Charlene & soul serenaders-can you win-Paradox
  • The Belairs-I got the feeling-Virtue (alt. version)
  • Original Matadors-searching for love c/u  
  • Marvin Sims-that’s what she told me c/u  
  • Ed Townsend & Tru-Glows-it’s a lonely night c/u  
  • And the Echoes-my love for you c/u 
  • Van McCoy-so soon April Blackwood acetate
  • Exits-cool operator c/u  
  • Debonairs-it was a dream c/u  
  • West Coast Distributors-Ive been deserted c/u 
  • Vashionettes-say yes c/u 
  • Trends-don’t dance so close c/u 
  • Topics-I could never find a nicer girl-Sound Plus
  • Gentlemen Four-in this world
  • Rudy Love-who’s fooling you c/u 
  • Alder Ray-what are you trying to do to me-Master
  • Herb Ward-Im so glad-Virtue acetate 
  • Milestones-girl I'm too much man  c/u  
  • Unknown artist-in one ear-Virtue
  • Albert Jones-security & satisfaction c/u 
  • Imperial Wonders-I love her so c/u 
  • South Coast Connection-one step ahead inst. c/u 
  • A Case of Time-Ive got to take it c/u 
  • Bill Bush & greater exp.-girl dry you tears c/u 
  • Soulful Core-come on & show me c/u 
  • Judy Freeman-does he wonder c/u 
  • Uptights-you bring out the love c/u 
  • Full Force-you’re looking good c/u 
  • Mitchell Hawkins & Choice of Love-I don't want to lose you acetate
  • Masters of Soul-oh girl don’t let go  c/u  
  • Randy & Radiants-it’s over c/u (alt. Bands of Gold)
  • Noble & Uptights-dont wory about it-Action
  • Bobby Jones-stop-acetate
  • 5 Perfections-you can do it c/u
  • Ray Frazier-my baby’s hand-Wright Sound
  • Cindy Scott-heartaches & pain c/u 
  • Eddie Alexander-fix it man c/u
  • Willie Newman & Del Reys-love done past me by-acetate
  • Profiles-I still love you-Universal acetate (alt. version)
  • Ike Perry & Lyrics-dont turn around-Cleveland acetate 
  • Joe Adams-stop-Frankford Wayne acetate 
  • Richard Anthony-no good-Virtue acetate (alt. take)
  • Don Hart-turn back-Mary Jane
  • Alvin Glover-call me baby c/u
  • United Sounds-its all over-United

... and this is exactly why he's held the number one spot as long as he has. Eye watering stuff.

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 Mellosouls we can make it 

Imperial c's  someone  tell her 

Devotions  doop doop de do

Diane Lewis  ain't got a chance  

New wanderers  render my service

Walter and Admirations  man oh man

 

 

Ruby andrews it takes me  away

 

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4 minutes ago, Speedlimit said:

 Mellosouls we can make it 

Imperial c's  someone  tell her 

Devotions  doop doop de do

Diane Lewis  ain't got a chance  

New wanderers  render my service

Walter and Admirations  man oh man

 

 

Ruby andrews it takes me  away

 

Imperial C's Dave Thorley.  New Wanderers is an oldie.  Know there was an alternate acetate about mind with a different mix

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On 16/08/2024 at 19:47, Mal C said:

I remember the first ‘Modern’ set butch did, I mean officially like at a do, me and Derek Jack hung about for that… it was great set, but not many folks turned up,,, some where in London I think… anyhow he’s on here, sure he remembers the night… 

I think you may be talking about 'The Scala' on Pentonville Rd, London around 1999 - Ran by Ion (It was a one off event)

Len :thumbsup:

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5 hours ago, Chalky said:

Imperial C's Dave Thorley.  New Wanderers is an oldie.  Know there was an alternate acetate about mind with a different mix

I thought Imperial C's was first played by Butch after reading his quote in an article about Soul Bowl. 

"On one occasion i asked John about a record by the Imperial Cs on Phil la Soul, which has appeared on the main sales list the week before; "what's it like", I asked? John's reply was, "give it a play", as it didn't sell and was still in the sales box. Price was £8 and the rest is history!"

Did he pass it on to Dave Thorley or had he (Dave) already got a copy 🤔

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4 hours ago, Theothertosspot said:

I thought Imperial C's was first played by Butch after reading his quote in an article about Soul Bowl. 

"On one occasion i asked John about a record by the Imperial Cs on Phil la Soul, which has appeared on the main sales list the week before; "what's it like", I asked? John's reply was, "give it a play", as it didn't sell and was still in the sales box. Price was £8 and the rest is history!"

Did he pass it on to Dave Thorley or had he (Dave) already got a copy 🤔

I heard the Imperial C's first on a Dave Raistrick unknowns tape he sent me in around 1981. Could have sworn it went to Jimmy Wensiora from there as Jimmy was buying loads off Dave at that time. First heard the Blendels "you need love" on that very same tape that Tim B has up for auction at this moment.

Cheers Dave

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On 16/08/2024 at 18:09, Mal C said:

Add in the two Edna McGriff ~ Been Hearing About You acetates… 

And I think, Darrell banks - knocking at your door? There are a few of those all different cuts of the same song, Richard Searling has one for sure. 

different version of Ann Haywood on Hondo, and he used to spin a real fast track at the 100 club, with a kinda Latin break, can’t remember the name, it’s on Jet Set records… 

The alt version of Ann Haywood is by Vikkie Anders on The Cream Co.

The flip Is a really nice crossover sound if my memory serves me right

Update:
I've attached audio of each side that I have on my mac.

Crook Your Little Finger

 

I Need A Love So Bad  

Enjoy.

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On 22/08/2024 at 12:29, Ssmall said:

Didn't he play a slightly different version of George Pepp (acetate probably) ?

Searched through some mp3's and one from 20 years ago is labelled as GP TFIR on AUDIODISK. No perceivable difference to my ears.

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47 minutes ago, Clee93 said:

The alt version of Ann Haywood is by Vikkie Anders on The Cream Co the flip Is a really nice crossover sound if my memory serves me right

I got the Vikki Anders on an acetate in LA in about 1990. I wasn't sure if it got a release until years later when it turned up on Cream & Co.

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10 hours ago, Chalky said:

Imperial C's Dave Thorley.  New Wanderers is an oldie.  Know there was an alternate acetate about mind with a different mix

New Wanderers-aint gonna do you no harm-Ready.   Discovered by myself and Tim Ashibende in 1981 in a shop in Pennsylvania. It went into my collection and ultimately later in my playbox.  Some years later Tim, on a US trip found an acetate of the record. As I recall it was slightly different than the issue, but sound-wise an inferior cut.

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1 minute ago, neckender said:

New Wanderers-aint gonna do you no harm-Ready.   Discovered by myself and Tim Ashibende in 1981 in a shop in Pennsylvania. It went into my collection and ultimately later in my playbox.  Some years later Tim, on a US trip found an acetate of the record. As I recall it was slightly different than the issue, but sound-wise an inferior cut.

thought it was earlier than that mate

14 minutes ago, neckender said:

Correct, I got it off Soul Bowl in 1979. It was a total unknown at the time and I didnt bother to cover it up.  The odd copy popped up in the 80s, but I dont remember Dave thorley or Jim wensiora playing it.

I'm thinking of the Empires I think

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