Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Utterly fabulous ! https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...eoid=2015370477
Guest biggray1 Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Magnifecent Simon,this version of GMYL is new to me,fantastic prfomance by the Sisters Love...thanx for posting mate.
Jordirip Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Utterly fabulous ! https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...eoid=2015370477 I was really looking forward to this, thinking it was going to be some rare old footage of one of the best cover versions ever, by one of my favourite groups. To say I was disappointed is a massive understatement. It looked like modern concert footage which is fine, it was too much to hope for to see something from the orig 70's version, but what was the cheesy music that was dubbed on top of the concert footage? There was no way the musicians in that clip were playing that plastic squeaky synth music. Where was the music from the musicians on the stage? She still is a mother of a singer though. Jordi
Guest Ivor Jones Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I was really looking forward to this, thinking it was going to be some rare old footage of one of the best cover versions ever, by one of my favourite groups. To say I was disappointed is a massive understatement. It looked like modern concert footage which is fine, it was too much to hope for to see something from the orig 70's version, but what was the cheesy music that was dubbed on top of the concert footage? There was no way the musicians in that clip were playing that plastic squeaky synth music. Where was the music from the musicians on the stage? She still is a mother of a singer though. Jordi JORDI, HOWS IT GOIN MATE. TUNE IS IN THE PIPELINE BY THE WAY... THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF IAN LEVINE`S BACKING TRACKS ON GMYL......I`VE HEARD SO MANY OF EM I CAN SPOT EM A MILE OFF. I`LL GIVE YOU A BELL AS SOON AS I`VE GOT YOUR TUNE, BEST, IVOR
Jordirip Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 JORDI, HOWS IT GOIN MATE. TUNE IS IN THE PIPELINE BY THE WAY... THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF IAN LEVINE`S BACKING TRACKS ON GMYL......I`VE HEARD SO MANY OF EM I CAN SPOT EM A MILE OFF. I`LL GIVE YOU A BELL AS SOON AS I`VE GOT YOUR TUNE, BEST, IVOR How ya doin' Ivor, it was good to meet you at Prest. Yeah I think you must be right about the Ian Levine connection, I don't think anyone else would have used such tasteless parping synths. What a waste of an opportunity to re record that track in a sympathetic modern style. Can't wait for the 45!! Best...jordi
Guest Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 (edited) Well done boys ! You spotted it was on an Ian Levine "myspace" site ! The vocal and backing track are both 'Motorcity' recordings, it came out AGES ago on 12" and the vocal is utterly fantastic, real proper Soul. If you listen to the track in a club you will hear how fantastic it is. But on small cheap home speakers I suspect it sounds like your average tinny 60's recording. Ask your local DJ to play it for you. The original backing tracks for the two bits of film used were not very good, but then you probably haven't heard them so you wouldn't know. Edited March 24, 2007 by Simon White
Jordirip Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Well done boys ! You spotted it was on an Ian Levine "myspace" site ! The vocal and backing track are both 'Motorcity' recordings, it came out AGES ago on 12" and the vocal is utterly fantastic, real proper Soul. If you listen to the track in a club you will hear how fantastic it is. But on small cheap home speakers I suspect it sounds like your average tinny 60's recording. Ask your local DJ to play it for you. The original backing tracks for the two bits of film used were not very good, but then you probably haven't heard them so you wouldn't know. Hi Simon, I didn't realise until I've since looked that it was on Ian's my space. To be honest I've always stayed as far away as possible from Ian's recordings since the days of the Exciters and LJ Johnson. He's always been involved with the shit and tacky end of contemporary studio production techniques both audio and video as far as I'm concerned. You say the vocal is fantastic, well so it would be, it's the Sisters Love for gawd's sake. It would take more than an Ian Levine synth by numbers backing track to hide that. Ian has always used cracking vocal artistes without any doubt, but he should have used a heavy duty bunch of seasoned musicians to do the vocalists justice. All in my opinion of course. If Incognito had got the job of playing on that track I don't think I'd be saying any of this. As for hearing the track in a club, well I like clubs that would play the original. Modern studio production techniques don't necessarily make a good piece of music, it depends on the producer, arranger and engineer. I never liked that Frances Nero Motor City thing come to think of it either, it all sounds like Stock Aitkin and Waterman to me. Totally soulless (apart from the vocals of course.) Jordi
Guest Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Fair enough mate. If you want to cough up a few thousand for the project I'll get it all recorded for you in just the way you like. Or we can use your studio, musicians and time if you like. Let me know.
Jordirip Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Fair enough mate. If you want to cough up a few thousand for the project I'll get it all recorded for you in just the way you like. Or we can use your studio, musicians and time if you like. Let me know. I'd love to Simon. Unfortunately I ain't got the funds or the time or a studio. I know some good musicians who could do it justice though. Surely I'm entitled to an opinion despite the fact I'm not personally in a position to do it. I know it takes effort, money and a love and passion to do anything of worth, and i respect Ian Levine for choosing proper good vocal artistes. I just think he always misses the mark musically and it ends up being a waste of enormous talent on behalf of the vocalists. Now where's my Delroy Wilson - Worth your weight in gold lp gone, some cracking cover versions on that. Jordi
Guest SteveC Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 Great vocal Simon and a gr8 tune also but like the rest who have commented we also figured it was a Levine production. Vermettya Royster looks quite seasoned and is someone we've not heard of - whats her background/history - gospel? Incidentally - if anyone is at all interested - the one Levine track I used to spin regularly and for some time now was taken from a sampler LP - Ivy Jo Hunter - Storm Clouds - Absolutely amazing track which I would never hesitate to play at any time. Thanks Simon for sharing the sound.
Guest Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) Great vocal Simon and a gr8 tune also but like the rest who have commented we also figured it was a Levine production. Vermettya Royster looks quite seasoned and is someone we've not heard of - whats her background/history - gospel? Incidentally - if anyone is at all interested - the one Levine track I used to spin regularly and for some time now was taken from a sampler LP - Ivy Jo Hunter - Storm Clouds - Absolutely amazing track which I would never hesitate to play at any time. Thanks Simon for sharing the sound. Steve, Vermettya was lead singer with 'Sisters Love' on A&M and Mowest (she's not on the Manchild 45) who are finally getting more recognition via the CD comp that came out last year, which I have to confess I've still not seen..is all the unreleased Motown stuff on it? I overheard a conversation the other day, apparently a Motown 45 of "Give Me Your Love" went for £100 on ebay recently, so the price is creeping up. I had the pleasure of getting to know Vermettya well when she was here a few years back and spent time with her in L.A...Vermettya is an ex Ikette, an ex Raelette (She told me she was on both 'Let's Go Get Stoned' and 'I Don't Need No Doctor' ) and she was a member of The Clara Wards Singers...and that shows in her performance style with the dancing and the handkerchief ! She performed a number of times here, and recorded some tracks at least one of which is a fabulous ballad. I had a whole video of a Gospel show she did in a church here in London...I was pinned to my seat throughout the whole performance. Edited April 6, 2007 by Simon White
Steve G Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 I just don't get it Simon. Why does IL constantly butcher classic soul records, and in this case one of the finest Motown 70's tunes. It's a bit like someone in the world of fine art copying known masters (Turners, Renoirs, Constables etc), but getting them all horribly wrong and distorted. They just wouldn't be taken seriously there, and I can't take these horrid remakes seriously either. Absolutely ghastly! :angry: Now where's me Mowest box....
Guest Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 Sorry you can't take them seriously Steve. Don't know what to say really. But here are a few questions...if you hate it so much, and if you hate Ian's productions so much, why have you bothered to listen? It must be a real torture for you so why bother? Why not just let the people who do enjoy them enjoy them? Why not let the fact that this recording and now this video have earned Vermettya more attention and in the long term, more money than anything else she did? Why not stick to paying money for records that don't benefit the artist in any way shape or form at all ?
Steve G Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 Sorry you can't take them seriously Steve. Don't know what to say really. But here are a few questions...if you hate it so much, and if you hate Ian's productions so much, why have you bothered to listen? It must be a real torture for you so why bother? Why not just let the people who do enjoy them enjoy them? Why not let the fact that this recording and now this video have earned Vermettya more attention and in the long term, more money than anything else she did? Why not stick to paying money for records that don't benefit the artist in any way shape or form at all ? I think your arguments would hold some water if IL was recording and pushing new songs on Vermetta, rather than trying to remake what is a classic Curtis Mayfield song. I'd rather hear a "Standing on solid ground" type of thing (albeit I don't like that song), than these Motown remakes.....which are almost Frankenstien like in their conception
Guest Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) I think your arguments would hold some water if IL was recording and pushing new songs on Vermetta, rather than trying to remake what is a classic Curtis Mayfield song. I'd rather hear a "Standing on solid ground" type of thing (albeit I don't like that song), than these Motown remakes.....which are almost Frankenstien like in their conception Pushing Steve? It's a back catalogue track that's all and the technology now exists to share it on video at no cost or obligation to anyone, which is all thats been done. Nobody is forced to listen to it or watch it. As for the 'almost Frankenstein' bit...I understand your passion and I have the same passion myself, but your possessiveness and your implied notion that everything you hold dear has some kind of untouchable sacrosanct 'purity' is a bit worrying and sounds like the kind of thing that was being said thirty years ago. There are a whole load of other Sisters Love/Vermettya Royster recordings that you would dislike too so why worry about it at all ? Edited April 6, 2007 by Simon White
Steve G Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 There are a whole load of other Sisters Love/Vermettya Royster recordings that you would dislike too so why worry about it at all ? Oh I like all of the Sisters Love tracks on A&M, Mowest, Motown etc, I am commenting on the re-recording of the song by IL, not the Sisters themselves by gum!
Karlm Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 I always wondered about the outcome Ian Levine would have had if he used the Funk Brothers for his Motorcity stuff..
Jordirip Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 I always wondered about the outcome Ian Levine would have had if he used the Funk Brothers for his Motorcity stuff.. Or any musicians who didn't play a Rolf Harris Stylofone (or whatever it was called.) Cheap jokes apart, proper bass, drums, percussion, guitar, brass and flute produced in a contemporary style would have helped do the track a bit of justice. I don't want to harp on this any more but it's just one of my favourite 70's tunes and I really think given the right treatment could finally make a bit of cash for the Sisters Love. Jordi
Souljazera Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 have had a good listen to this "new recording" and its not to my taste at all...a bit too toppy and poppy....must be the tandoori sauce... i do produce "club music" its not "doing it" in any way shape or form now if you want a proper versoin send me 2000 and i 'll do it for you ps at the risk of being controversial........ 24 hours a day is quite good!!!!
Souljazera Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 must be a power play at essence steve.................ddddddddoooooooohhhhhhhhhh
Souljazera Posted April 6, 2007 Posted April 6, 2007 I always wondered about the outcome Ian Levine would have had if he used the Funk Brothers for his Motorcity stuff.. probably spannered that as well!!!!
Steve G Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 must be a power play at essence steve.................ddddddddoooooooohhhhhhhhhh Oh yes - goes down a treat about 3.30 am. It'll probably also be aired at the Bass tomorow too - top tune Off to search for my stylophone in the loft - I fancy a new version
Guest Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 (edited) And yours.... And may the great God Shivoo bring blessings on your house. Edited April 7, 2007 by Simon White
Souljazera Posted April 7, 2007 Posted April 7, 2007 i am currently having a clear out of stylophones ...so should anybody need one..just let me know
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