Temptations TMG 587 - test pressing?

[Julianb]

Hi, please see attached photos. I know I'm losing you side has the correct deadwax readings of TMG 587 A-1 and plays correctly but the B side has no recording and has a very wide deadwax with LPFB stamped.

I'm assuming this is a genuine test pressing.  Can anyone shed any light on this or information on this please?

TIA Julian 

[Sutty]

That’s an acetate not a test pressing, done at the time of the cut to check quality, usually a one-off. If the UK press was cut at EMI its prob genuine

[Tlscapital]

4 minutes ago, Sutty said:

That’s an acetate not a test pressing, done at the time of the cut to check quality, usually a one-off. If the UK press was cut at EMI its prob genuine

The stamp matrix is machined so it's indeed a genuine acetate.

[Julianb]

Thanks guys. Is it worth owt?

[Tlscapital]

1 minute ago, Julianb said:

Thanks guys. Is it worth owt?

Not much I'm afraid. But I'm no British releases collector.... £20 / 40 ?

[Dobber]

Did uk acetates have that crinkled edge around the centre like a uk 45? 
 

it’s look like a blank test press with a emi label stuck over it?

[Tlscapital]

11 minutes ago, Dobber said:

Did uk acetates have that crinkled edge around the centre like a uk 45? 
 

it’s look like a blank test press with a emi label stuck over it?

I'm no specialist of UK gear but I noticed that too. But what an odd thing to stuck on an EMI acetate label on a single sided vinyl test press then ? Or was that a common UK EMI practice ? Some of the French pre-releases 45's made from UK EMI & Co. 45's were occasionally solid center single sided too FWIW... What is the machined Matrix of the TMG ? To compare could maybe tell us something. 

Then I was also surprised by the glue smudge over the 'crinkled' outer label ring that could indicate some DIY amateur job... But that would prove to be a lot of fuss for a rather common record. But like sewing patches and all required a lot of time from those who did have more time for their passion than they had money. I know I did. Although I never 'dressed' my records. Too much respect for that.

Edited April 26 by Tlscapital

[Julianb]

Here is the B side deadwax readings from the issue copy. So does anyone know what the LPFB stamp denotes?

[Alan T]

35 minutes ago, Julianb said:

Here is the B side deadwax readings from the issue copy. So does anyone know what the LPFB stamp denotes?

 

Never seen this before but LPFB = (L)? Play False Back, seems to be on test presses with a blank flip.

https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=lpfb&type=all&format_exact=7"

[Modularman]

2 minutes ago, Alan T said:

Never seen this before but LPFB = (L)? Play False Back, seems to be on test presses with a blank flip.

https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=lpfb&type=all&format_exact=7"

'Long' Play False Back.

The flip side of these test "White Label - Not For Sale"  - pieces of vinyl have a test tone that plays continually

[Alan T]

1 minute ago, Modularman said:

'Long' Play False Back.

The flip side of these test "White Label - Not For Sale"  - pieces of vinyl have a test tone that plays continually

I seen this on search results but thought long play would denote an album. I was wondering if it could be "Lone" as in single ?

[Bo Diddley]

Just as a reference or bit of additional information, I have this Temptations British Test Press of TMG 633. It is vinyl and has the raised KT mark on the center and correct machine stamps on both sides. There's no sign of LPFB on it.

There doesn't seem to be much demand or value in these. I got this from eBay a few years ago for a couple of pounds. I don't think anyone else bid.

 

Edited June 13 by Bo Diddley

[Woodbutcher]

If it were a 'test pressing' then it would carry the very same runout stamps as the issued 45 , given that the purpose of doing test pressings is to make sure the stampers were in order and damage free before running off a volume of records.

[Modularman]

7 hours ago, Alan T said:

I seen this on search results but thought long play would denote an album. I was wondering if it could be "Lone" as in single ?

I don't know, as LP's came first I assumed they just carried on with the same runout stamp for 45's?

[Chalky]

Looks more like a test press with the ridge round the inner edge.  I would have thought an acetate would be flat all the way across the surface too. 

[Chalky]

From what I can gather many UK test press had LPFB stamped on side two and many seem to think it indicates a test tone such as the one yours has Julian. 

[Carty]

8 hours ago, Bo Diddley said:

Just as a reference or bit of additional information, I have this Temptations British Test Press of TMG 633. It is vinyl and has the raised KT mark on the center and correct machine stamps on both sides. There's no sign of LPFB on it.

There doesn't seem to be much demand or value in these. I got this from eBay a few years ago for a couple of pounds. I don't think anyone else bid.

I  am surprised that these British test press copies are not more valuable and sought after , they must be much rarer than the uk demos , if not as easy on the eye . 

[Sebastian]

This is 100% a one-sided vinyl test pressing, it's not an acetate.

[Benji]

A few months ago I bought a job lot of 45s. Among them were ~80 UK Pop demos from the mid 50s to the mid 60s. Most were single sided with an "empty" groove on the flip.  This one here looks just like one of those pressings.