Guest skorpiano Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Colwyn Bay Pier All Nighter mid 70's ... anyone out there go! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rugby Soul Club Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Colwyn Bay Pier All Nighter mid 70's ... anyone out there go! Used to attend on the scooter rallies in the 80's. Lovely venue and floor. About the time I realised the northern on rallies was a bit restricted, I think skying in the snow and 6 x 6 was played 4 times in one night.... It's been bought privately and restored, should be due for re-opening about now..... Would be nice to see how it's turned out... anyone let us know.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
chrissie Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Colwyn Bay Pier All Nighter mid 70's ... anyone out there go! Probably, though don't remember much about North Wales in the 70s, got drunk in 1974 and didn't sober up until about 1978 so who knows I may of been . Remember going to see Souxie and the Banshees at the Colwyn Bay Dixie in about 1979 but think I had sobered up by then, well I hope so as I was driving QoFxx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dickytwang Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Colwyn Bay Pier All Nighter mid 70's ... anyone out there go! Yes I went to the pier, there was also a place called the friendship club or did I dream this! My memory is not what it used to be. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) I did the dayers in the early 80's. Did the BH ones used to follow the Friday Wigan Oldies session? As I'm sure I went to Wigan Friday, Wigan Saturday, Colwyn Bay Sunday the next thing I knew I woke up with a cat on me face in that 5.30am half light that you only get in a front room with the curtains drawn. I sat up, removed the cat....I was on a couch in an unfamiliar room, I looked round....there were six people that I didn't know on the floor in the bay window of a house that I had no re-collection of entering, playing 'The Game Of Life'. It was Tuesday, I was meant to be in work in Warrington on the Monday previous - and the killer, I was in Lincoln. Northern Soul ay??? Edited March 14, 2007 by Barry Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
chrissie Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Yes I went to the pier, there was also a place called the friendship club or did I dream this! My memory is not what it used to be. Can you remember when the changed the name of the Pier to the Dixieland or am I a little confused and is my fuddled mind playing tricks on my spasmodic long term memory. QoFxx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest lolmil Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I did the dayers in the early 80's. Did the BH ones used to follow the Friday Wigan Oldies session? As I'm sure I went to Wigan Friday, Wigan Saturday, Colwyn Bay Sunday the next thing I knew I woke up with a cat on me face in that 5.30am half light that you only get in a front room with the curtains drawn. Northern Soul ay??? Was that a cat or a pussy!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Crumb Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Yes I went to the pier, there was also a place called the friendship club or did I dream this! My memory is not what it used to be. No, your memories ok, I used to go to the Friendship Club before the nighters. I've still got a badge somewhere, similar to the Wigan Oldies anniversary badge. I remember getting off the train one Friday night to be met by the Police informing us that the nighter was cancelled. Luckily they kept the Friendship club open till about 2. I think I had a better night that if the nighter had been on, but I was lucky enough to stay at a friends house, lots of others weren't so lucky & ended up kipping in shop doorways. I also went to alldayers at a venue in Arias Park or something like that. Sometime later I went to an Allnighter run by Chris Burton as part of a scooter run. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest skorpiano Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Yes I went to the pier, there was also a place called the friendship club or did I dream this! My memory is not what it used to be. No your memory is fine, I went to the Friendship Club before the pier, my first all nighter and I remember it like it was yesterday. Glad to hear it's soon re-opening. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsoul Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 can't remember year but went to one, probably in the 80s though, i remember there was no heating on a freezing cold night and everyone dancing in their coats it was that bleedin cold, me and Alex McBride gave up and sat in the car outside with a bag of herb and got hammered then went back in and the world suddenly seemed a rosier place. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stevemochan Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 No, your memories ok, I used to go to the Friendship Club before the nighters. I've still got a badge somewhere, similar to the Wigan Oldies anniversary badge. I remember getting off the train one Friday night to be met by the Police informing us that the nighter was cancelled. Luckily they kept the Friendship club open till about 2. I think I had a better night that if the nighter had been on, but I was lucky enough to stay at a friends house, lots of others weren't so lucky & ended up kipping in shop doorways. I also went to alldayers at a venue in Arias Park or something like that. Sometime later I went to an Allnighter run by Chris Burton as part of a scooter run. Yup i think i only missed one.I even came down from London with Pete Miles and Chalky,done the peir,back to my mums house at eight in the morning for tea and bacon butties then off to stafford. Great times. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest taffy Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 went regulary in 70's think this was the first allnighter where you could buy alcohol,they sold bottles of wine if my memory serves me right. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 (edited) Yep the Colwyn bay pier pavilion was named Dixieland,went there as an alternative to Paynes or Winter gardems in Llandudno,we are talking early seventies,mixed bag of music,some northen some top twenty stuff and also live heavy bands for some strange reason. Loads of scrapping goin on! Went to have a look at the old place last year....dancefloor has bits of hardboard nailed over several holes,there is a large hole in the stained glass roof,totally f*cked in my opinion,very sad,still, happy memories! Oh and no never went to the alldayers,why, I don't remember,Chico and Mark Bicknell are the guy's to ask. Edited March 18, 2007 by dancingcollector Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 just passed it on train and in a worse state than last saw it right eyesore pier was for auction on ebay a while back, which though was funny most of soul acts showed up at dixies, Junior Walker been the best nd most memorble imo the late 70s nighters at the bay were ok, bit too wigan influnenced with all that entails be my looking back view the freindship was some sort of wooden youth club hut wasnt it, only thing remember is steve tracys brother been carried out as inverted t eiras park alldayers were a laugh what can remember theres a look at going ons from those involved with these nighters and dayers and snobs event etc from that time in articles link at bottom happy days any other north wales coast 70s memory refreshes the riverboat at rhos highwayman at abergele north wales soul club offices in upper mostyn street alldayers at acradia llandudnohttps://www.soul-source.co.uk/articles/words/north-wales-in-the-70s-r181 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kazb Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Colwyn Bay Pier All Nighter mid 70's ... anyone out there go! My first All Niter, was just 15 at the time, scared stiff at first, but absolutely hooked from then on and haven't looked back. Remember the Frenny club too, and the Riverboat rooms in Rhos-on-Sea. Also many soul nights at the Pier late 70's early 80's, All-dayers every New Years Day. Saw the Specials and other Two-Tone bands there 1980/81, great times! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kazb Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 just passed it on train and in a worse state than last saw it right eyesore pier was for auction on ebay a while back, which though was funny most of soul acts showed up at dixies, Junior Walker been the best nd most memorble imo north wales soul club offices in upper mostyn street alldayers at acradia llandudno Memories, forgot about the Arcadia Dayers, not sure about the NWSC in town, but do remember sciving off school late 78/79 to go buy records in Bangor. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Memories, forgot about the Arcadia Dayers, not sure about the NWSC in town, but do remember sciving off school late 78/79 to go buy records in Bangor. very vague memories of nwsc place, 74/75 ? maybe earlier, opposite the london i think, robert redhead and all that, records for sale, etc once was some sort of night in superdiner above robins that no one else can remember how about the legendary llandudno soul society ? still got the membership somewhere Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Forget the fella's name now,sold soul/northern records in the new indoor market in Llandudno's mostyn street and went to Mr Paul's in Rhyl to by Benn's,brutus and Pigalle shirts and wrangler jeans,went down the Palace in Rhyl (not for the feint hearted),think I saw Ritchie Andrew and fellons there,sorry for goin slightly off subject,oh and you could have your DM's re- soled(no pun intended) at Briggs in Colwyn Bay. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Crumb Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Yup i think i only missed one.I even came down from London with Pete Miles and Chalky,done the peir,back to my mums house at eight in the morning for tea and bacon butties then off to stafford. Great times. I remember after the Friday allnighter on a scooter run waiting for your mum to go out so a load of us could sneak in and have a shower & get changed, then another one Sat night. We must have been mad. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest martinsbox Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Colwyn Bay Pier All Nighter mid 70's ... anyone out there go! On our way to Colwyn Bay in 1978. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest martyn Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 went regulary in 70's think this was the first allnighter where you could buy alcohol,they sold bottles of wine if my memory serves me right. Quite right,some weird Pomain type gut rot if I remember correctly. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark B Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Forget the fella's name now,sold soul/northern records in the new indoor market in Llandudno's mostyn street and went to Mr Paul's in Rhyl to by Benn's,brutus and Pigalle shirts and wrangler jeans,went down the Palace in Rhyl (not for the feint hearted),think I saw Ritchie Andrew and fellons there,sorry for goin slightly off subject,oh and you could have your DM's re- soled(no pun intended) at Briggs in Colwyn Bay. that would be tony just mark Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 -->QUOTE(mark.b @ Mar 19 2007, 01:42 PM) link that would be tony just mark Tony Just....well I never knew......know any more about him Mark? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rugby Soul Club Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 pier was for auction on ebay a while back, which though was funny How much did it go for? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wulfie09 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Can you remember when the changed the name of the Pier to the Dixieland or am I a little confused and is my fuddled mind playing tricks on my spasmodic long term memory. QoFxx I know for certain it was Dixieland in 1973/74 - worked there a number of times with the North Wales Soul Club ( Gilbert Gillan and Robert Redhead ) Vaguely recall Jimmy James appearing along the coast about 5 times in a fortnight in Autumn 74 including my leaving do before I got exiled to Cyprus ! Wulfie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 How much did it go for? fairly sure it didnt get any bids, memory says reserve was 6 figs or so Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
caseoftyme Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Yep the Colwyn bay pier pavilion was named Dixieland,went there as an alternative to Paynes or Winter gardems in Llandudno,we are talking early seventies,mixed bag of music,some northen some top twenty stuff and also live heavy bands for some strange reason. Loads of scrapping goin on! Went to have a look at the old place last year....dancefloor has bits of hardboard nailed over several holes,there is a large hole in the stained glass roof,totally f*cked in my opinion,very sad,still, happy memories! Oh and no never went to the alldayers,why, I don't remember,Chico and Mark Bicknell are the guy's to ask. I remember seeing Jackie Wilson, Jr Walker and Major Lance at the Pier. Didn't manage to get a ticket for the Major Lance gig, so I got myself a job behind the bar, started the week before ML was on, jacked the job at the end of the ML night. If any of you haven't seen the photos of Paynes Cafe Royal, Llandudno from the 70s click on the link below - the sites a bit crappy at the moment with loads of stuff missing 'cos I ran out of web space - didn't realise and was still tried to upload new stuff (dork or what ?) www.paynesreunion.co.uk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NiteOwl Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 (edited) I remember seeing Jackie Wilson, Jr Walker and Major Lance at the Pier. Didn't manage to get a ticket for the Major Lance gig, so I got myself a job behind the bar, started the Yep Remember the live acts here well - Major Lance at Xmas, Junior Walker etc... was a fab venue and often packed to the rafters.... Remember Ginger and co doing spots as well as the Wigan names of the day - Searling - Russ, Sam etc... fond fond memories for the NW crowd in particular... always bloody cold to start though... in a very sorry state these days... the guy who owns it reportedly paid around £125k for it and wants to restore it - council won't cough up enough support and the repair bill is climbing with the tide and rust every year - last I heard its looking at the thick end of £3m.... shame.. would be good to give it one more go.. some pics from those days here www.soulbeat.co.uk - Gallery section Edited April 3, 2007 by NiteOwl Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I remember seeing Jackie Wilson, Jr Walker and Major Lance at the Pier. Didn't manage to get a ticket for the Major Lance gig, so I got myself a job behind the bar, started the week before ML was on, jacked the job at the end of the ML night. If any of you haven't seen the photos of Paynes Cafe Royal, Llandudno from the 70s click on the link below - the sites a bit crappy at the moment with loads of stuff missing 'cos I ran out of web space - didn't realise and was still tried to upload new stuff (dork or what ?) www.paynesreunion.co.uk getting a not found of the link ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NiteOwl Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 getting a not found of the link ? Thinks its cached to an old link Mike - the new one is... https://www.soul-lover.co.uk/forums/ndex.php Cheers Al Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest little glyn Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 there was also the colwyn bay all dayers in erias park remember seeing the real thing there (WOW!!).what was the name of the bangor all dayer venue in a hotel opposite the cathedral,there was a friday night do in an upstairs room in a pub in the middle of rhyl can,t remember that name as well (sad is,nt it )this venue i can remember being visited by the ledgendary dave godin of blues and soul magazine and a follow up report printed went passed the colwyn bay pier/dixieland the other week looking very sorry for its self ( shame) ) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NiteOwl Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 (edited) there was also the colwyn bay all dayers in erias park remember seeing the real thing there (WOW!!).what was the name of the bangor all dayer venue in a hotel opposite the cathedral,there was a friday night do in an upstairs room in a pub in the middle of rhyl can,t remember that name as well (sad is,nt it )this venue i can remember being visited by the ledgendary dave godin of blues and soul magazine and a follow up report printed went passed the colwyn bay pier/dixieland the other week looking very sorry for its self ( shame) ) The Bangor Dayers were in the dining room at the Castle Hotel, by the Cathedral - we often met up there before getting on the coach to Wigan. There were also a few good dayers held at the Bangor Technical college (still have the posters) - DJ's were Brian Rae, Dave Evison, Soul Sam, Russ, local lads - Les, Royston, John Bunny, Graham, Gaz and Benny etc...Manys a time we would do Wigan Oldies on the Friday - Back to Bangor Castle for a dayer - then the coach /train back to Wigan Saturday... Where did we get the energy?? The Venue in Rhyl was the Queens Hotel If I remember correctly - not to be confused with the Queens Hotel on the Hill in Colwyn Bay where one or two Soul nights ran... not far from the hotel 70 degrees up the road where we went to 1 or 2 as well ... Is it me or was there lots more going on back then?? Also remember the soul crowd taking over the basement at Plas Coch nightclub a few times too - where Jimmy James & The Vagabonds, The Real Thing and others appreared... Gilbert Gillan in the main room was a closet soulie i reckon.. Anyone remember the record shop at the bottom end of Bangor high st..... bought a few goodies from there.... Edited April 4, 2007 by NiteOwl Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 www.paynesreunion.co.uk getting a not found of the link ? working ok now Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Doris Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 The Bangor Dayers were in the dining room at the Castle Hotel, by the Cathedral - we often met up there before getting on the coach to Wigan. There were also a few good dayers held at the Bangor Technical college (still have the posters)i reckon.. Anyone remember the record shop at the bottom end of Bangor high st..... bought a few goodies from there.... I was at Bangor Tech doing a pre nursing course and fancied a soulie called Will who was doing some kind of BBC type course and ran into him a few years later at wigan casino.Remember dancing to Shame at Plas coch (excuse spelling), didnt they also have do's down by teh pier in Bangor??? and happy times listening to three before eight in the common room ................... ahh when I was young Doris aka Sue Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NiteOwl Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Sue, the only venues I remember in Bangor itself (apart from the Castle & Tech) were the Old Library Hall behind the main city post office, and the Community centre at the lower (pier) end of town, close to Kwik save and John Owen cycle shop... They were occassional Soul nights - I know that John Bunny & Graham Thomas ran the Library ones - but don't remember who did the community centre ones.... As for Wil... the name rings a bell but can't place a face...... Was hoping someone on here may remember John Leach from Bangor - emigrated to Australia I think - he was a Soulie from the area about that time... always wondered how he got on in OZ and if he's picked it back up again - was a great dancer.... Nostalgia - Nostalgia........... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Lifesaver - stormy winter - cover-up Butch spin?? - anyone any clues to the true ID of this?? Won't play for some reason,ps.Al I think this in in wrong section Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 try using the search https://www.soul-source.co.uk/search.php?qu...l&andor=AND Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NiteOwl Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Found out recently that the owner of the old pier has set up a petition to try get support for its restoration - If you want to help give the guy a chance to get a response please sign up here... https://petitions.pm.gov.uk/victoriapier/ Thanks - ps John - Yes the Stormy Winters was in the wrong section...... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Netspeaky Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) I DJ'd at the Colwyn Bay niters in the 70's & 80's great times and memories. Edited May 11, 2007 by Netspeaky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I DJ'd at the Colwyn Bay niters in the 70's & 80's great times and memories. Mark,your attachments haven't worked,can you try again as I wanted to see 'em,John. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
funkyfeet Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Mark,your attachments haven't worked,can you try again as I wanted to see 'em,John. Hi John, I'm having aproblem uploading pic & sound at moment Mike is looking at problem, once solved I'll put up posters, also have some play lists of mine from back then. Regards Mark Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 :good: Hi John, I'm having aproblem uploading pic & sound at moment Mike is looking at problem, once solved I'll put up posters, also have some play lists of mine from back then. Regards Mark Ta Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Hi John, I'm having aproblem uploading pic & sound at moment Mike is looking at problem, once solved I'll put up posters, also have some play lists of mine from back then. Regards Mark mark sent ya a pm ref probs mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Netspeaky Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Colwyn Bay Flyer Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Colwyn Bay Flyer Mark,who were Shaun Gibbons and Marc Farley? don't sound familiar,still on the scene? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kazb Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Mark,who were Shaun Gibbons and Marc Farley? don't sound familiar,still on the scene? Shaun Gibbons used to promote Morcambe Pier Niters, early 80's. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Netspeaky Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 (edited) Shaun Gibbons used to promote Morcambe Pier Niters, early 80's.Shaun was promoting Morecambe and Colwyn Bay, although he used to leave the Bay about 3am and I would then end up dealing with the remaining hours. From my helping Shaun run the Bay niters I ended up as one of the regular DJ's in the oldies room in Morecambe Pier Alnighters. I later DJ'd at the Carlton Allnighters in Morecambe while Shawn run one in competition in Morecambe which effectively kill both nighters. The reason the Bay nighters finished was that Shawn owed the owner (Chris WIlliams) who run CJ's in Rhyl at the time money for the hire. I haven't seen Shawn for many years, but I believe he still lives in the Morecambe area. Mark Farley is still around I'm sure I've seen his name mentioned on SS. Edited May 14, 2007 by Netspeaky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
chrissie Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Shaun was promoting Morecambe and Colwyn Bay, although he used to leave the Bay about 3am and I would then end up dealing with the remaining hours. From my helping Shaun run the Bay niters I ended up as one of the regular DJ's in the oldies room in Morecambe Pier Alnighters. I later DJ'd at the Carlton Allnighters in Morecambe while Shawn run one in competition in Morecambe which effectively kill both nighters. The reason the Bay nighters finished was that Shawn owed the owner (Chris WIlliams) who run CJ's in Rhyl at the time money for the hire. I haven't seen Shawn for many years, but I believe he still lives in the Morecambe area. Mark Farley is still around I'm sure I've seen his name mentioned on SS. Gosh, theres a blast from the past. QoFxx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I also had the pleasure of attending the All Nighters on Colwyn Bay Pier with the lads that used to hang out at the Bridge Club (now demolished) and the Palace (now closed) in Rhyl. Does anybody remember any of the following people who also used to attend, Snap, Ganger, Alan Brown, Colin Williams, Spider, Ste Burn, Martin Lappin, Geoff Bamber, Andy Barlow, Penny & Joanne Holloway, Liz Burn, Les Jones, Billy Jones, Simon Farrell, Howard Farrell, where are they now. I remember one particular night when about eight of us had to get a lift home in the back of Simon Farrell Pie Delivery Van, as you can imagine fun and games on the way home with yesterdays pies entow. I also remember a younger netspeaky who prided himself on never ever paying more than 50 pence for any record in his collection (sorry), he promises me this is still the case today ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
chrissie Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I also had the pleasure of attending the All Nighters on Colwyn Bay Pier with the lads that used to hang out at the Bridge Club (now demolished) and the Palace (now closed) in Rhyl. Does anybody remember any of the following people who also used to attend, Snap, Ganger, Alan Brown, Colin Williams, Spider, Ste Burn, Martin Lappin, Geoff Bamber, Andy Barlow, Penny & Joanne Holloway, Liz Burn, Les Jones, Billy Jones, Simon Farrell, Howard Farrell, where are they now. I remember one particular night when about eight of us had to get a lift home in the back of Simon Farrell Pie Delivery Van, as you can imagine fun and games on the way home with yesterdays pies entow. I also remember a younger netspeaky who prided himself on never ever paying more than 50 pence for any record in his collection (sorry), he promises me this is still the case today ? I went to school with Geoff Bamber seem to remember the name Andy Barlow as well. QoFxx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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