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Firstly, When did r'n'b become more generally known as Soul?

The term 'r'n'b' seemed to be more prevalent in the mod era than 'Soul'. Billboard didn't change the title of their specialist chart to 'Soul' until '69 but that was picking up on the change well after the event. I'm guessing that the Civil Rights movement helped precipitate the change to reflect a more positive & 'spiritual' term. So I'm guessing that the general terminology for the genre changed about '66.

What was the first record with 'Soul' in the title?

Soul Twist - King Curtis 1962 ?

Those are just my instinctive thoughts. Any more educated ideas?

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Firstly, When did r'n'b become more generally known as Soul?

The term 'r'n'b' seemed to be more prevalent in the mod era than 'Soul'. Billboard didn't change the title of their specialist chart to 'Soul' until '69 but that was picking up on the change well after the event. I'm guessing that the Civil Rights movement helped precipitate the change to reflect a more positive & 'spiritual' term. So I'm guessing that the general terminology for the genre changed about '66.

What was the first record with 'Soul' in the title?

Soul Twist - King Curtis 1962 ?

Those are just my instinctive thoughts. Any more educated ideas?

i don't know if this is an example of what you're looking for, but little richard had 'oh my soul' in 1958

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Firstly, When did r'n'b become more generally known as Soul?

The term 'r'n'b' seemed to be more prevalent in the mod era than 'Soul'. Billboard didn't change the title of their specialist chart to 'Soul' until '69 but that was picking up on the change well after the event. I'm guessing that the Civil Rights movement helped precipitate the change to reflect a more positive & 'spiritual' term. So I'm guessing that the general terminology for the genre changed about '66.

What was the first record with 'Soul' in the title?

Soul Twist - King Curtis 1962 ?

Those are just my instinctive thoughts. Any more educated ideas?

Bloody Hell Ste, have you got yourself a ghost writer??????? :shades:

Good question tho.

Tony

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Stuart Hamblen wrote "He Bought My Soul At Cavalry", a gospel track, in the late '40s, around the same time he wrote "This Old House" (a UK No. 1 hit for Rosemary Clooney and..gulp....Shakin' Stevens!). If I'm not mistake, I would say the first time this appeared on record would have been around 1950 - 1951.

The Speer Family released it on the US Bullet label, and was covered by Jo Stafford on US Columbia around 1951.

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Soul Deep...Box Tops....Memphis Soul Stew.....Booker T.....Soul Galore...Jackie Wilson...Soul And Inspiration...???...Soul Groove...King Crimson....Soul Meeting....William Bell.....Soul Superman...Hesitations....Just my soul responding..Temps....Soul Source...Cal Tjader.....Phew! cant see these being the first ever recordings of what your looking for.

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"Rock my Soul" was recorded by Broadway Rastus for ABC Paramount in 1929. It's not a soul record but a gospel tune however the lyrics were often drawn upon by some of the best writers of 60's soul.

Rock my soul in the bosom of Abraham

Rock my soul in the bosom of Abraham

Rock my soul in the bosom of Abraham

Oh, rock my soul

So high I can't get over it

So low I can't get under it

So wide I can't get round it

Oh, rock my soul

These types of recording were often ripped of for lyrical content or just plain plagurised. The best example is probably the traditional spiritual "Lets Praise the Lord" which in the the hands of Ray Charles became "Lets Go Get Stoned" the music and the meter of the lyric is exact just the words change.

The exact change over time of Rhythm and Blues to Soul is impossible to define IMO as is the exact change over from Rhythm and Blues to Rock and Roll or Gospel to Soul or Blues to Rhythm and Blues. To me soul music be it Northern, Modern, Crossover, 70's, Oldies, Newies, Rare or Common is all Rhythm and Blues why do we all feel the need to pigeon hole everything. I don't need a label to tell me what I like or to know that Broadway Rastus isn't gonna be appreciated at an all-nighter.

This is a facinating subject though and two good questions. One may be able to be answered definitavely (1929 is my bid BTW) the other will always be a subjective view.

There must be loads of opinions on this would be good to hear others :shades:

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Some early examples.

LAVERNE BAKER Soul On Fire 1953

SONNY PARKER & GLADYS HAMPTON She Sets My Soul On Fire 1953

HELEN O'CONNELL Body And Soul 1952

BILL MONROE Lord Protect My Soul 1951

MARIAN MCPARTLAND Gypsy In My Soul 1952

SARAH MCLAWLER Body And Soul 1952

BETTE MCLAURIN & THE STRIDERS I Won't Tell A Soul I love You 1952

DIANA LYNN Body And Soul 1951

ERNIE LEE I Feel It In My Soul 1951

LANFORD QUARTET Jesus, Lover Of My Soul 1953

MARIE KNIGHT This Old Soul Of Mine 1954

FRED KIRBY My Soul Is Not For Sale 1953

B.B. KING Story From My Heart And Soul 1952

HERB KENNY My Soul 1952

KANSAS CITY GOSPEL SINGERS Trouble All About My Soul 1951

JORDANAIRES Rock My Soul In The Bosom Of Abraham 1954

JORDANAIRES He Bought My Soul 1951

GRANDPA JONES Light In His Soul 1952

BUDDY JOHNSON Satisfy My Soul 1950

DICK JAMES With All My Heart And Soul 1951

JACKSON GOSPEL SINGERS Jesus, Lover Of My Soul 1952

LEROY HOLMES Gypsy In My Soul 1952

HARMONEERS Is It Worth Your Soul 1951

HAMM BROTHERS He Saved My Soul 1950

STUART HAMBLEM He Saved My Soul At Calvary 1951

BENNY GOODMAN Body And Soul 1951

GOLDEN EAGLES Lay Down Your Soul 1951

JACKIE GLEASON AND BOBBY HACKETT Body And Soul 1950

ERROLL GARNER Body And Soul 1951

FREDDY GARDNER Body And Soul 1950

FOUR BUDDIES Heart And Soul 1951

FOUR ACES Heart And Soul 1952

FIRESIDE GOSPEL SINGERS Get Your Soul Right 1953

PERCY FAITH Body And Soul 1951

MILTON ESTES Money Won't Save Your Soul 1950

TOMMY DORSEY AND VICTOR YOUNG Body And Soul 1951

TOMMY DORSEY With All My Heart And Soul 1951

BUDDY DEFRANCO Body And Soul 1951

PERRY COMO & THE FONTAINE SISTERS With All My Heart And Soul 1951

CHUCK WAGON GANG A Soul Winner For Jesus 1954

CHUCK WAGON GANG My Soul Shall Live on 1950

CHUCK WAGON GANG Home Of The Soul 1953

MARTHA CARSON I Feel It In My Soul 1953

BROTHER RODNEY Jesus, Lover Of My Soul 1952

BREWSTERAIRES Wings For My Soul 1952

HARRY BREUER Jesus, Lover Of My Soul 1950

SISTER EMILY BRAM My Soul Needs Resting 1952

EDDIE BOYD Tortured Soul 1953

BLUE JAY SINGERS Jesus, Lover Of My Soul 1951

MEL BLANC Lord Bless His Soul 1952

BLACKWOOD BROTHERS Rock-A-My Soul 1952

BLACKWOOD BROTHERS He Bought My Soul At Calvary 1952

PAUL BASCOMB Body And Soul 1953

WINIFRED ATWELL Body And Soul 1951

LOUIS ARMSTRONG Body And Soul 1951

ARMSTRONG TWINS & PATSY He Can Save Your Soul 1950

RAY ANTHONY With All My Heart And Soul 1951

J.T. ADAMS Rock-A-My Soul 1953

FAYE ADAMS Happiness To My Soul 1954

SONNY PARKER She Sets My Soul On Fire 1952

LITTLE ESTHER & THE DOMINOES Looking For A Man (To Satisfy My Soul) 1951

BILLIE HOLIDAY Body And Soul 1945

BENNY GOODMAN Get Rhythm In Your Feet (And Music In Your Soul) 1935

CAB CALLOWAY Keep That Hi-De-hi In Your Soul 1935

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