OK to play a 'second issue'

[Julianb]

Just been chatting with a 'top' DJ' and we were discussing playing originals and the conversation came around to ' my styrene copy is getting a bit worn' should/can I play a reissue if I have the original with me and put it up for validation? Records discussed were Del Larks, Joe Matthews, Tamala Lewis ( think this is vinyl but can't get to mine at the moment to check) etc.

Thoughts please. Some of these are getting expensive!

[Ian Parker]

play em !! 

   i had a wobbly copy of Rat Race,  so i played the uk 80s reissue  (not quite the del larks)

[davidwapples]

People were doing this years ago to protect their investment in the originals.

Wanting the credit for djing but wont risk the records so played carvers

 

Takes the piss, if you are worried about damaging it then play something else

[Dobber]

I think to cherish the tradition of the northern soul dj it has to be absolute,no bending,no excuses,play the original record or stay at home!

[Samplat]

53 minutes ago, Julianb said:

Just been chatting with a 'top' DJ' and we were discussing playing originals and the conversation came around to ' my styrene copy is getting a bit worn' should/can I play a reissue if I have the original with me and put it up for validation? Records discussed were Del Larks, Joe Matthews, Tamala Lewis ( think this is vinyl but can't get to mine at the moment to check) etc.

Thoughts please. Some of these are getting expensive!

Tamala lewis is vinyl 

[Julianb]

3 hours ago, Samplat said:

Tamala lewis is vinyl 

Yes, I  did think that.

[Solidsoul]

 

If dj's are required to play originals this requires time and commitment. This keeps the standard of music quality higher, because that dj has served a kind of apprenticeship to get where they are! Playing second issues, bootlegs, cd's means dj's don't need commitment and experience to be behind the decks, anyone can do it!

 

Edited December 18, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Supercorsa]

Sorry to say it, but this thread is like a scratched record.

[Solidsoul]

13 hours ago, Supercorsa said:

Sorry to say it, but this thread is like a scratched record.

Very sorry your lordship, I hope we aren't boring you too much!  Feel free to do something better.

Edited December 18, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Shinehead]

 Up to the dj in my opinion it is he/she that will take the flack if any comes but the idea of waving the original around for validation is ridiculous to me might as well leave it at home and as said above just play something else.

 

 

Edited December 18, 2023 by Shinehead

[Dobber]

1 hour ago, Solidsoul said:

Very sorry your lordship, I hope we aren't boring you too much!  Feel free to do something better!

[tony mac]

Earlier quote play something else the smaller djs get travel expenses and a few quid but still try to play a good set including some rare ,so it’s ok for them to de value a rarity by playing when an issue can be played, any one can collect or dj but don’t so leave this decision to dj as if you are a punter you won’t know?

[Petesi]

MY Opinion. Back in the day it was about the music not the label, I go to dance, not to sit around chatting, so for me the DJ is their to entertain. I would much rather hear a second/Re-issue than none at all! Collectors collect labels ( and good luck to them) DJ`s play records to entertain and for the crowd to dance to. A few major events have deck cams and Its nice to See/hear the big money stuff at those events, but for me at the smaller clubs reissues are fine as I said Its all about the music not the label.

[Dobber]

I would have thought the desire to be a dj specifically of northern soul you would WANT to play original records,the second issue/boots scenario I can see ending up in YouTube streaming or spotify,or something as stupid as that? In all my years I’ve never known one person who would be happy to go to a soul nite or all-nighter where the djs are playing seconds/boots,I think it’s the collectors and djs that drive the scene equally as much as the punter.

 

[Happy Feet]

2 hours ago, Petesi said:

MY Opinion. Back in the day it was about the music not the label, I go to dance, not to sit around chatting, so for me the DJ is their to entertain. I would much rather hear a second/Re-issue than none at all! Collectors collect labels ( and good luck to them) DJ`s play records to entertain and for the crowd to dance to. A few major events have deck cams and Its nice to See/hear the big money stuff at those events, but for me at the smaller clubs reissues are fine as I said Its all about the music not the label.

I totally agree , lots of the big venues djs would break a record on the dance floor , get a copy made Emidisc usually and sell the original for a profit , the dance floor was still full and nobody cared , because most of the attendees where fuelled up and just wanted to dance , and enjoy themselves .

[Frankie Crocker]

The answer is no but it depends on the venue. OK for youngsters starting out at the back of a pub on a Friday night. Definitely not at a regional venue when collectors have travelled from afar. Shrewd DJ’s will minimise styrene use on unknown decks and stick to vinyl. If the 45’s are suffering from wear and tear, surely it’s time to introduce a few new records into the set. There are enough records out there to make up a decent Oldies set without having to resort to the clapped out Top 500. Any DJ with a big gig coming up should be able to conjure up a box of quality sounds making sure the knackered records are left at home with the second issues, emi discs, carvers, bootlegs etc.