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We have all over the years visiting various All Nighters around the country and for the most part had great and happy experiences, but odds being the way they are, there must be a time and a place where events to a turn for the worse and it became a All nighter to remember for the wrong reasons either Serious or Funny, It could be the Music, Attitude, Police, bad chemicals.etc etc , or just a Comedy of errors, Your Thoughts, or just get it of your Chest

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A Bad experience or two for me over the years, firstly at the Lincoln Drill Hall All Niters where we were dropped off by our Mini Bus near to the Front Doors when we were greeted by a Large bunch of Local football Hooligans Who focused their attentions on me carrying my record boxes and sensed i was in for a bloody good hiding after one of them got into my face and said   "And where do you think you come from then?" i said "Scunthorpe", and HE replied saying, "not good news you coming from Scunthorpe is it?"  Thankfully the Missus had the foresight to rush in through the Venue Doors and fetch Chris Dalton (Organiser) and a few Burly Guys and get us all safely inside, he then told us these Thugs had been causing trouble outside all nite since people started queuing up and the Police had to Move them on on numerous occasions only for them to keep returning so a Nite remembered for all the wrong reasons as we heard that other Soul Fans had not been so lucky and did get set upon.

Other time was after a Cleethorpes Pier All Niter when a group of people we later found out were from Manchester Tried to grab my 500 size record box from me as we walked down the ramp from the Pier to our Coach, luckily with the people from our coach and other friends and attendies who saw what was going on managed to fend them off. so yes both of these occasions were very Scary but thankfully the only serious events etched into my memory from past years of Happy Soul Related Memories

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Was  at the 100 club one night and someone played Della Reese "A clock with no hands" Don't get much scarier than that!

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Never really had any nightmare niter experiences. The Mojo was in a quiet residential area of north Sheffield (one of the main reasons it was shut down by the council), & local rockers never bothered to go up there to harass the mods going to the club. The Nite Owl was in central Leicester but again no real horror stories from my time there. The club was a small cellar club though & (when a top act was on live) could get very full. Being in a cellar it had little alcoves in the walls formed between pillars that supported the higher floors. I can recall seeing a couple having sex in one of those alcoves, oblivious to all the dancers packed in around them. As the club got hot & sweaty when full, I sometimes used to ask the bouncers if I could go outside for a bit (to chat & cool down). They'd let me but obviously thought I was going outside for dubious reasons (to sell pills ?). On my return into the club one night, a bouncer obviously thought I was a dealer & took me aside to tell me he could get his hands on an illegal gun if I wanted to buy one for protection purposes !!! (i was about to celebrate my 18th birthday & was still 'wet behind the ears' so his offer scared me a bit).    

Lots of mates had horrific tales of being rolled near the Wheel when they'd gone off to buy stuff to help them make it through the night. There were obviously robber types around at those niter sessions but I never came into contact with any (lucky I guess). The worst thing that happened to me on trips to the Wheel were ... 1/ on a winter's night crossing the Pennines in a Hull lads car, we hit black ice & skidded across the road. This spooked the car owner / driver & he immediately decided to head home & we had to bail out & go wherever -- we never made it to the Wheel that night.   2/ arriving too late at the Wheel, you would be refused entry (would this have been after midnight & therefore technically we were trying the pay & enter on a Sunday ?). Anyway, we didn't fancy going home so went to another Manc niter (@ the Majestic). That club was disc only & had few people in , no atmosphere so a bum night all around.

Later trips (80's / 90's) were made to venues such as Clifton Halls, a club in Huddersfield, Loughboro, Leicester (Odd Fellows ?), Bradford (Queens Hall), 100 club, Stafford (TotW) and more -- but again , no horror stories.   

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We travelled to a Friday allnighter at Brierley Hill near Dudley about 1978. We went because Soul Sam was djing.

  I remember, it seemed Soul Sam and us were the only lighter whiter complexion people in the venue!

I think most people were only there because it was an allnighter and not for the music! Looked like they would have been happier with Reggae music type event.

  I was with my girlfriend so was ok, but my mates kept getting bumped into accidently on purpose!   An uncomfortable, bad atmosphere night!

It was much better at Wigan the next night and Soul Sam was on again!

 

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For me it would be The Fleet all-nighter at Peterborough to see Junior Walker in 1983, it was around the time of the 'Mod' revival with Parka's , Scooters etc. A group broke into the bar and proceeded to get smashed, later in the evening the dance floor was covered in beer and spew, stayed to watch Jnr Walker and never went back there again .

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Troggs Allnighter Farnworth Nr Bolton the night The Torch closed down. 100's of soulies made their way up the M6 from Stoke. Troggs was just a small basement club that held around 125 tops with loads queuing outside trying to get in. Alan Day came up and did a set for us. Kev Roberts had his sales box stolen. The night was immortalised in Kev's book as one of the top 5 worst allnighters of all time, however something good came from the club before that disastrous night, although we didn't realise it at the time a young Richard Searling made his DJ'ing debut there spinning top records he'd just brought back from the US.

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Around mid / late 70's we'd been to Wigan Casino all-nighter if I remember correctly and three of us decided on a whim to go to the all-dayer at the Windmill Club in Rotherham. We were only 14/15 at the time. On the way back south we asked the coach driver to drop us in Rotherham and we had about a 2 mile walk to the venue.  None of the older lads on the coach wanted to come.

We started our walk to the venue and from nowhere this fella, probably 30 ish, wearing a black leather jacket with studs and chains, comes out of an alley brandishing a long piece of 2 x 2 timber. He says we are members of a rival gang who had previously beat up his mate. We said that was not correct (although we put it stronger than that), which seemed to get him further wound up. Before long he's running at us swinging the fence post, but we had the good sense to split and run. It was a shame some of the others hadn't joined us, as there was some tasty lads on the bus who could really handle themselves. 

Anyway we all made it to the venue in turn, enjoyed the day, but I rang my parents at the end to come and pick us up, as we weren't risking that again. Bottled it !!😆 The parents wern't impressed with a 60 miles round trip on Sunday night. 

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Waiting round the back of the Britt Notts for a coach to take us to Coalville niter which eventually arrived, as the que to get on disappeared me and my mate were the only one's not to get on it.A bunch of  a dozen local's  ran towards us stopping to turn a parked car over screaming "soulies get em" we legged it and were lucky enough to find a lit up building which was a Taxi rank,arrived at the nighter at 4am skint and had to borrow the bus fare to eventually get back to South Yorkshire 

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Dropping a load of dancing helpers before arriving at the Blue Orchid only to find it closed!

Other than Les Cokell, I can't remember who else was there ( it was either the Huddersfield Boys or maybe the Preston Boys who Les would pick up on the way.

Spent the night in a motorway service station being stared at by some unknowing (fortunately) motorway traffic police.

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5 hours ago, Djack said:

Was  at the 100 club one night and someone played Della Reese "A clock with no hands" Don't get much scarier than that!

He may not admit this, but what frightened me was Derek dancing to it...!

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After coming out of Wigan and heading towards the swimming baths just down the road me and my mate brads asked the attendant is there any trunks in the lost property. He came out with two pairs of what I would call Stanley mathews shorts they went halfway down your leg .we got changed and went to the pool  climbed up the height frame and jumped off I went one way and my shorts went the other way to a roaring laughter of all the soullies having a brew ,never lived it down 

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3 hours ago, Mal C said:

He may not admit this, but what frightened me was Derek dancing to it...!

How very dare you!


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My one and only visit to Va Va's, a rumble on the dance floor with local drunken idiots, after it calmed down, a bloke pulled a knife on me in the gents toilet,I don't recall us staying all night!

 

Tim.

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I can’t remember that many soul do's that were that bad, there have a few eye opening moments for sure, I've certainly had very very scary nighters on the house scene, 88/89/90 it went with the territory, The Hummingbird in Brum quite like Wigan, you didn’t go to the toilets on your own at the 'Bird', because you would have everything stolen from you...it was a very racial in there,  allot of the Kings Standing lot (Villa Supporters) for the most part, were racist, they went there to fight, deal and all the rest of it...

Mosely Dance center, for those of you who know it, was seriously dodgy, it was next to Ballsall Heath, and in mid 1990 attracted a massive crowd that had come over from the Hummingbird. There were allot of very big dealers there, and they brought there own trouble, most major cities have/had clubs like this... it was a shame cause it was a really great venue, music and Dj's were very good...

Anyhow, Soul, been a few exchanges in the 100 Club que over the years, you can't stand about on Oxford street and not meet nutters walking past... Rememeber a fight way down the line, Sean Adams steamed into that, he came running past me, it didn't last long once he turned up......! lol

One year at Cleethorpes I was in the modern room, it was the Sunday night so everybody had turned up to hear the classics, always a good night the Sunday night.  I'm very worse for wear but I'm strutting my stuff and doing my moves and enjoying the night!! laughing

Got chatting to this chap who was dancing next to me, alright mate, and all that....and he says I'm nipping out for a cigarette, comin? so I pip out.  I'm out there 2 mins and he comes onto me, along the lines of “he has months to live" something like that....  I'm like, WTF!  Mate I'm not gay, but no hard feelings and all that.... Then as soon as I look up his mate, a girl steams in front of us in her car, the passenger door swings open, and they make a quick getaway...  I'm standing in the cold, what has just happened?   didnt ruin the night, it was a great night, last night always is, but I felt a bit foolish

best have another drink then, hit the floor 🙂

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On 24/10/2023 at 11:53, Djack said:

Was  at the 100 club one night and someone played Della Reese "A clock with no hands" Don't get much scarier than that!

A nightmare but it could have been the flip ‘The bottom of Old Smokey’ so bad you might actually have burst out crying!

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As a Newport County supporter since my induction 1962/3  and furthermore, my love of the Soul Scene from 1974/5 said paths were"crossed" in September 1978   after a Friday night oldies session and Wigan Athletics initial football league season We happened to be playing them the following day.....Having spent the  early morning at Wigan baths, after said Soul session, we visited the record shops before going to the game! With Newport having been been unsuccessful in  obtaining any victory prior, were succesful at Springfield Park for our first season victory of 3-2.....My mate Nick, ,had kindly driven us up to Lancashire in his Mini Clubman, were displaying our club colours of Amber/Black, on our return to South Wales  and receiving the complimentary sheep relationship jibes, from the home mob,whilst they were in receipt of the usual reminders of the score etc. ......Punk was the current fashion trend and the  spikey haired following were keen to catch us up in their Doc Martens and hob nails and do us some damage, and as the traffic was'nt , moving due to red lights, it seemed that their footfall grew to running pace,whilst we  weren't moving !!! Eventually our luck changed as did the lights luckily, and we headed southbound, having enjoyed both an oldies all-nighter along with a first win of the season!

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Travelled up to Carlisle for a nighter on a Friday with Julie from Halifax on a coach against the advice of my mum as it was snowing. Duly got to blizzard standards as we headed further North. Finally arrived at the venue at 5am but managed to get in via a knock on a fire door. Managed to cadge a lift back to Manchester in a mini bus off some friends but after a short stop at the services the driver accused me of ripping the seat in front of me and kicked us all off. The tear which I hadn't noticed until he pointed it out was old and frayed  but his excuse to ditch us. Ended up borrowing money off the gang till Wigan the night after and finally got the train back. 

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Ritz alldayer Ric Tic review me like an idiot completely stoned spent the whole time in the toilet cubicle with the abb dabs, just caught All Kent think he was the last act 

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The Hull lads outside the Wheel ... 3rd from left is Graham Bolton (now living in Australia).

He went off with a bloke to get some gear ahead of going into the club one night. They rolled him, took his money & beat him up. Not a good night for Graham.

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There aren't many photos of the Wheel which could be one reason why it doesn't get the attention it deserves.

Not surprising given the size of cameras back then. Also, The Wheel was the last place to go with valuables. Our friend D and his mates would have had off with them. 

A friend of ours came up to us and said D had taken his watch and could we help him get it back. I'm afraid we didn't but we did tick him off for coming to the Wheel wearing a watch in the first place. 

Looking back, we should have all ganged up and gave these characters a good hiding and ejected em but we weren't that sort and they were nut jobs. 

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Nothing outrageous to report, just trivial things. Sound system playing up at Mr M’s and 100 Club. Wading through flooded bogs at The Casino and 100 Club. Slight infringements of dancefloor etiquette post 2000 with  handbaggers, faggers, drinkers etc spoiling the parquet.

Generally all been 99.9% positive experiences. Memorable journeys to and from Cleethorpes, Keele and Stoke...brilliant soundtracks that still bring back happy memories. Sunday travel on the railways was always a character building experience but no hard feelings looking back. 

As for Soul Nights as opposed to AllNighters, that’s for another thread...

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Loving this thread. I remember going to the first all nighter in Leicester after wigan had shut. And unfortunately it was cancelled.   No buses after 11. But we all walked home together and chatted away at 100mph all the way home for some reason.  Home was about 5 miles 🙃.  And parents wondering why I didn't want breakfast 😕 

But the longest journey back from a niter was coming back from Leighton buzzard to Leicester. We realised that we had missed junction 21 on m1 as we started the approach to the Humber Bridge.  Thankfully we were able to come off , turn round and drive all the way back to Leicester before we ran out of petrol.. 

All I can say is that it's amazing when you are verballing away how easy it is to miss your turn off 🙄

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Getting the train back from Wigan Winter '73 to Chester and not being sure if we had to change at Crewe or Runcorn. Chose unwisely, next stop was Stafford. Ended up further from home than when we started. Not the best start to Sunday when you have danced all night without the aid of funny pills. Yes, despite media reports to the contrary not everyone was off their heads on drugs. I was probably just very naive back in the day, but I never saw any drugs. I suppose if you aren't part of that scene, it isn't noticed. I smoked the odd roll-up cigarette, for a short time in my 20's, it always had me had me scratching my head why "Bouncers" in clubs were all ways asking me what I was smoking. Why were they so interested in my tobacco brand. It was years before it dawned on me they thought I was smoking Pot. Like I said "NAIVE"

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Mid 1980s, travelling to a nighter in Sheffield (I think) where Popcorn Wylie was appearing (I think) a dog got run over on the M1 in front of us. Bit shit.

Around the same time, going to the Buzzard nighter and finding it had been moved to a cement works social club. Cement dust and sweat ruin a pair of shoes nicely.

Maybe late 80s, going to a new nighter at a miners' welfare in Notts somewhere. (I say a miners welfare, from memory it was like a village cricket club pavilion.) Good DJ line up, reasonable attendance. No gear. Worst nighter ever.

 

 

 

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I know I've mentioned this before on here but feel , after some research that I may have given the Oldies Alnighter' s at The Casino a bad name and wish to apologise .

The Alnighter wasn't the Oldies the night before the 3rd Anniversary is was " By Popular Demand " a new Friday Alnighter in Mr Ms featuring Soul Sam ,John Vincent and guests ( I'm sure Richard , Keith M. and more than likely Kenny S. because he provided the equipment for Ms usually) but can't remember the exact line up .

I can definitely remember the journey from North Wales , buzzing and looking forward to a warm up prior to the real thing on the day after on the Saturday, 15 mins in 3 punters full of chemical assistance and Mike Walker came running in from the entrance,  opposite end to the stage full of djs , arms flaying all over place shouting   "shut it down guys , new it wouldn't work " and stopped the whole thing , Returned our entry fees etc and kicked us out on the streets of Wigan , off our heads , funny now but very pissed at the time . Having recovered then managed a clean up at the baths , refreshed and off to the 3rd Anniversary and had a great time the following night .

Don't know if anyone else still alive can remember or even want to admit "That By Popular Demand" wasn't a Friday night success that particular night or if there was ever another. The Oldies was the 1st Friday of the month , I never went to one , 

 

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remember being in the queue at the Casino and there was a punk band on before  { Atilla and the Huns} i believe was the name . when all the punters left seeing the concert there was a huge clash with all of the soul crew outside.

It was mental and we ran and hid in the  multistory carpark next to the Casino until it all died down...Mental especially we were all off our chops !

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None bad -to be fair I really didn't do many after the 80's anyway. One very memorable one that still scares the heck out of me was NYE Stoke. 

Felt fine until I got back to my mates (who was giving me a lift the 4 hours south) and realised when I got in my car I felt a bit odd (i.e. whoozy/pissed). It certainly wasn't the booze as after the pre drinks in 'spoons I'd stuck to red bull and only had a few of them & water until the last song and farewells. 

I managed to get to my home in one piece, felt a bit odd/slightly sick all day, so having a shift the next day (Railway) I tried to sleep it off.

Lo & behold I got half way to work and realised I'd better ring in 'sick' as I still felt pissed (Rail limit was instant sack at 1/2 the DD limit)!

This was at least 18 hours after the event and over 24 since my last alcoholic drink so there is no way I'd have been OTT. 

Spiked drink? I bloody well think so.

No wonder the kids hang onto theirs for grim death nowadays,

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Nobody has mention the first Leeds Soul Festival. April 74. Awful venue, awful Sound system, duff gear. Even Major Lance, JJ Barnes, the Exciters and Mel And Tim didn't make it much better. 

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3 hours ago, Paul R said:

Nobody has mention the first Leeds Soul Festival. April 74. Awful venue, awful Sound system, duff gear. Even Major Lance, JJ Barnes, the Exciters and Mel And Tim didn't make it much better. 

yuk and what a cold hole it was 

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On 13/11/2023 at 23:56, Pete Morgan said:

remember being in the queue at the Casino and there was a punk band on before  { Atilla and the Huns} i believe was the name . when all the punters left seeing the concert there was a huge clash with all of the soul crew outside.

It was mental and we ran and hid in the  multistory carpark next to the Casino until it all died down...Mental especially we were all off our chops !

I'd heard about this incident from my brother's mate's. I asked about on a previous thread, the band was slaughter and the dogs, if I remember correctly 

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On 07/11/2023 at 15:09, Paraboliccurve said:

Mid 1980s, travelling to a nighter in Sheffield (I think) where Popcorn Wylie was appearing (I think) a dog got run over on the M1 in front of us. Bit shit.

Around the same time, going to the Buzzard nighter and finding it had been moved to a cement works social club. Cement dust and sweat ruin a pair of shoes nicely.

Maybe late 80s, going to a new nighter at a miners' welfare in Notts somewhere. (I say a miners welfare, from memory it was like a village cricket club pavilion.) Good DJ line up, reasonable attendance. No gear. Worst nighter ever.

 

 

 

I was at the cement works, think it was called the bee gees club. Got a lift with someone to Aylesbury but only had about £1.50, after records and other essentials😉 my return from London to buzzard wasn't valid. got a train back to London anyway, tried to pretend I was asleep but those ticket inspectors are persistent, he asked where I'd got on, last station I said, the ticket was about, £1.48, close call. 

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30 minutes ago, Geeselad said:

I was at the cement works, think it was called the bee gees club. Got a lift with someone to Aylesbury but only had about £1.50, after records and other essentials😉 my return from London to buzzard wasn't valid. got a train back to London anyway, tried to pretend I was asleep but those ticket inspectors are persistent, he asked where I'd got on, last station I said, the ticket was about, £1.48, close call. 

It was actually a great night!

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