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Coming from the Ivories trivia in chronology of releases I noticed that the Despenza release had all the similar typos as the orange label version of the Brothers of Soul on Despenza with the so called 'Italic' logo. So I went on and tried to determine precisely what are the odd dates of releases and took the most detailed from Cat45 and already just at first set the evidence with facts back in order with the Criss Cross  located before the Creations on Zodiac which makes no sense plus the matrix number say otherwise ;

Zodiac 1005 (as the Creations) 'a dream' September 1967 ZTSC 126555 & 126556

Criss Cross 1001 'can't get you out of my mind' SEPTEMBER 1967 ZTSC 126557 & 126558

Zodiac 1008 'come on back' (as Freddy & Bobby) 1968 ? New entry as G F member on here started a quest on this new to me and rare B.O.S. in "disguise".

Boo 1001 'can't get you out of my mind' 1968 ? Same ZTSC as Criss Cross 1001

Boo 1004 'I guess that doesn't mame me a loser' FEBRUARY 1968

Boo 1005 'come on back' July 1968

Boo 1006 'I'd be grateful' December 1968

Boo 111 'you better believe it' June 1969

Boo 112 'one minute baby' November 1969

Shock 1313 'dream' 1971 ?

Shock 1314 'try it baby' MAY 1971

Their Criss Cross and first Boo should be dated around October 1967 and January 1968. As the Criss Cross release is very close following the Creations going by the following matrix numbers and labels prints.  Then what bothers me some are those 1971 datings for both Shocks releases that are so far appart from the previous with no better reason or explanation for the one year plus gap in between ecordings of theirs. Evidently they were busy composing, producing and arranging others gear but still. Anyone knows ?

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September sounds about right for the Brothers' Criss Cross release- this October, 1967 has the song at #13 and the Creations "Footsteps" at #17.

 

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Thanks for those 2 Roburt lovely Surveys. For 2 resolutions. Fantastic. Will provide to 45Cat.com

Could this set back their first release on Shock somewhere back down to earlier 1970 ? ...

This sets back Woman (Candace Love) on Shock to be third and not first (December 1971).

And finally their Criss Cross rerelease on Boo up as early 1968 maybe ? ... As I think it is.

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Yank - I would really like to include the two suveys in the YouTube video I'm doing for a Fred Bridges interview. Can you please send higher res' copies?

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Just wanted to add another correction to the Brothers of Soul above discography. As you can see by the info provided by WVON, "I Guess That..." was already getting airplay in early February of '68 so February or even late January is a more likely release date - 

 

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2 hours ago, The Yank said:

Just wanted to add another correction to the Brothers of Soul above discography. As you can see by the info provided by WVON, "I Guess That..." was already getting airplay in early February of '68 so February or even late January is a more likely release date - 

 

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Cheers again for that Roburt. The quote 'instant replay' makes me think of a 'newie' hot out of the pressing plant so I opted for February as month of release. 

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