The forgotten and the forgettable

[Soulboy60]

I was wondering what forgotten tune people would re-activate and what forgettable tune they would burn. 

So for me I would re-activate 'Devil made me do it' by 'The Natural four,.. Ok, hold on a minute. I know that this tune is a bit left field but then I could name many others that are. I remember when this was getting plays at the Casino it would pack the floor,. yes, it really did, in fact it packed the floor everywhere for a while and it provoked some great dancing too. I love this tune, it's a real banger, in my eyes everything that 'Northern Soul' is and I think it should definitely be getting plays again. Go on give it a listen again, you'll see what I mean. 

Now my forgettable tune that I think should be burned is 'Can't live this way' by Barnaby Bye'. OH MY WORD! What an absolute load of CRAP this is! I recently read and I quote,' This record is a monster tune',... Monstrous, I think they meant to say. Out of 'Mecca' this has to be one of the all time crappest tunes I've ever heard, it was crap then and it's crap now, what the DJ who first played this out was thinking is anyone's guess. There ain't no soul in these old grooves. This record should definitely by BURNED!

You may not agree with what I write but that's OK you don't have to. What I would like to know is what forgotten tune you would re-activate and what forgettable tune you would gladly burn? I think there's a lot to choose from especially the 'burners' as many of us who were there back in the day when all sorts of rubbish was getting played can testify to. Let me know, love to see what you all come up with.

[Jim Elliott]

Wombat.

 

Enough said really.

[Soulboy60]

1 hour ago, Jim Elliott said:

Wombat.

 

Enough said really.

Wombat,.. Oh yeah, you're not wrong! ..........................  What about your re-activator, got one?

[Soul Shrews]

Off the top of my head;

Millionaires "You've Got To Love Your Baby"

Mickie Moonshine "Name It You Got It"

Cheers Paul

[Tlscapital]

2 hours ago, Soul Shrews said:

Off the top of my head;

Millionaires "You've Got To Love Your Baby"

Mickie Moonshine "Name It You Got It"

Cheers Paul

Am sorry 'Soul Shrews' but none of these two are actually a match IMO to either Barnaby Bye or Wombat disgrace.

There are other more hideous things to be disclosed all over again but who goes into these dark places anymore ?

[Happy Feet]

Sharanettes , Don't even know if I've spelt it right ,Papa who shite , burn it defo in fact a vinyl amnesty for this one , hand it in to your local Crematorium now .

Reactivate , Bobby Foster , If You Really Need A Friend, (call me ) wonderful tune 

[Algsoul]

dawn - love is a magic word utter shite

[Happy Feet]

3 minutes ago, Algsoul said:

dawn - love is a magic word utter shite

What is your reactivation ,? 

[Algsoul]

margie hendrix - i call you lover but you ain't nothin' but a tramp

[Soulboy60]

12 hours ago, Tlscapital said:

Am sorry 'Soul Shrews' but none of these two are actually a match IMO to either Barnaby Bye or Wombat disgrace.

There are other more hideous things to be disclosed all over again but who goes into these dark places anymore ?

Yes, very dark places, sometimes it just makes me sweat just thinking of what's in there. 

11 hours ago, Happy Feet said:

Sharanettes , Don't even know if I've spelt it right ,Papa who shite , burn it defo in fact a vinyl amnesty for this one , hand it in to your local Crematorium now .

Reactivate , Bobby Foster , If You Really Need A Friend, (call me ) wonderful tune 

Ah yes, perfect on both accounts.

[Soulboy60]

11 hours ago, Happy Feet said:

What is your reactivation ,? 

Yes,.. what forgotten / neglected tune would you bring back into play onto the scene again?

[Soulboy60]

11 hours ago, Algsoul said:

dawn - love is a magic word utter shite

Utter shite indeed!

[22ndsoul]

1 minute ago, Soulboy60 said:

Yes,.. what forgotten / neglected tune would you bring back into play onto the scene again?

Always thought Kelly St Clair - Hear that Beat - had more miles left in it for an oldies floor

[Ian Parker]

Jerry Naylor - city lights.     absolute shi-ite .    why is this stuff even played ? 

 

reactivation ?  Flamma Sherman - where is he  (equally bad, but at least its not hammered week in week out)

[Soulboy60]

24 minutes ago, Ian Parker said:

Jerry Naylor - city lights.     absolute shi-ite .    why is this stuff even played ? 

 

reactivation ?  Flamma Sherman - where is he  (equally bad, but at least its not hammered week in week out)

Personally not a fan of Flamma Sherman but probably wouldn't burn it, just yet anyway, but Jerry Naylor, what a pile of absolute crap that is. I also wonder why stuff like this is ever played.

[Soul Shrews]

20 hours ago, Tlscapital said:

Am sorry 'Soul Shrews' but none of these two are actually a match IMO to either Barnaby Bye or Wombat disgrace.

There are other more hideous things to be disclosed all over again but who goes into these dark places anymore ?

Millionaires would be my "reactivation"

Cheers Paul

[Soulboy60]

9 minutes ago, Soul Shrews said:

Millionaires would be my "reactivation"

Cheers Paul

That's a great tune and should defiantly be getting plays.

[Soulboy60]

What about 'Ain't no soul'  by Ronnie Milsap,.. Who thought it would be a good idea to play this out?

Flippin' can't stand hearing this record, needs to be put into the crematorium. Burn it!

[Mal C]

I'm sorry but Jerry Naylor - City Lights is brilliant, sure it is, 'of its time', but I have to say, it makes me happy

If we are in that kinda tertritory, I'll go to re activate Jerry Fuller - Double Life!!  and how about Linda Carr - In My Life...

[Happy Feet]

27 minutes ago, Mal C said:

I'm sorry but Jerry Naylor - City Lights is brilliant, sure it is, 'of its time', but I have to say, it makes me happy

If we are in that kinda tertritory, I'll go to re activate Jerry Fuller - Double Life!!  and how about Linda Carr - In My Life...

 

1 hour ago, Soulboy60 said:

What about 'Ain't no soul'  by Ronnie Milsap,.. Who thought it would be a good idea to play this out?

Flippin' can't stand hearing this record, needs to be put into the crematorium. Burn it!

Now you see lol , where this kind of topic is gonna end up , personally like the Ronnie Millsap , ANSLITOS, but never liked Jerry Naylor , but have a copy , for the dance floor just in case it's requested, The Strange World Of Northern Soul,( or is it )

[Mustang]

Agree with Mal C.

Jerry Naylor - City Lights

A fantastic record,up there with the

big classics and always will be.

A great dance tune which the dancers

love,part of our Northern Soul history.

 

Everyone is entitled to an opinion,

no way is it shite at all,loved by many

dancers,true Northern Soul at it's best.

[Ian Parker]

43 minutes ago, Mustang said:

Agree with Mal C.

Jerry Naylor - City Lights

A fantastic record,up there with the

big classics and always will be.

A great dance tune which the dancers

love,part of our Northern Soul history.

 

Everyone is entitled to an opinion,

no way is it shite at all,loved by many

dancers,true Northern Soul at it's best.

are you serious ?   im not entirely sure how or why this kind of garbage is even played at a soul event.    same could be said for a lot of other records too.     He shoulda stayed with the Crickets, after Buddy Holly passed away......

 

Edited September 4, 2023 by Ian Parker
typin error

[Mustang]

3 hours ago, Ian Parker said:

are you serious ?   im not entirely sure how or why this kind of garbage is even played at a soul event.    same could be said for a lot of other records too.     He shoulda stayed with the Crickets, after Buddy Holly passed away......

 

Yes,I'm serious,a fantastic Northern Soul

uptempo dancer,loved by many Soulies.

 

I noticed that you picked an early live

recording to let everyone listen to it,

not the best choice as the sound quality

isn't always the best.Would have been

better with Brico's upload,which is much

better to highlight this great tune to

everyone.

Also,have a look at the comments

from Soulies about how fantastic

this tune is,there are plenty

of knowledgeable people who love

this track.

It's not garbage,it is brilliant and thank

you for uploading the video,always enjoy

listening to the live or record,either way

a great sound to my ears.

 

Just because you don't like it,doesn't 

mean everyone else is wrong does it,

intelligent Soulies can decide for

themselves.

 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Mustang

[Goldsoul]

On 03/09/2023 at 13:11, Soulboy60 said:

I was wondering what forgotten tune people would re-activate and what forgettable tune they would burn. 

So for me I would re-activate 'Devil made me do it' by 'The Natural four,.. Ok, hold on a minute. I know that this tune is a bit left field but then I could name many others that are. I remember when this was getting plays at the Casino it would pack the floor,. yes, it really did, in fact it packed the floor everywhere for a while and it provoked some great dancing too. I love this tune, it's a real banger, in my eyes everything that 'Northern Soul' is and I think it should definitely be getting plays again. Go on give it a listen again, you'll see what I mean. 

Now my forgettable tune that I think should be burned is 'Can't live this way' by Barnaby Bye'. OH MY WORD! What an absolute load of CRAP this is! I recently read and I quote,' This record is a monster tune',... Monstrous, I think they meant to say. Out of 'Mecca' this has to be one of the all time crappest tunes I've ever heard, it was crap then and it's crap now, what the DJ who first played this out was thinking is anyone's guess. There ain't no soul in these old grooves. This record should definitely by BURNED!

You may not agree with what I write but that's OK you don't have to. What I would like to know is what forgotten tune you would re-activate and what forgettable tune you would gladly burn? I think there's a lot to choose from especially the 'burners' as many of us who were there back in the day when all sorts of rubbish was getting played can testify to. Let me know, love to see what you all come up with.

Good topic. Interesting to see how we all react  towards DJ spins then & now.  
I too have many I could easily bin, but there’s a flip side to soulfulness and credible recordings….the dancer. They make the hits. 

I think I may have been the first to discover Barnaby Bye, after being given a promo by a dear friend Tony Gioe. At the time I had just left the Casino, so any new finds of interest went to Ian Levine. He was the one who ran with it even though it started to happen on the NY disco scene.  That aside, UK dancers loved it as soulful as it isn’t.  
Ironically, fast forward to around 8 years ago, Richard Searling and I hosted a show together every Sunday on Smooth 70’s. We had a variety of hit makers on the show from that decade and the Alessi brothers were one. Unannounced they played us an acoustic version of ‘Can’t Live This Way’.
Certainly different but does have a fan base in certain quarters  

On a side note……Cats Eyes-Life is the worst record ever made
 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Goldsoul
Tidied up

[Solidsoul]

Great when people come on to tell of good records they feel are neglected, but I can't see the point of people coming on just to rubbish records. Very negative!

Looking on youtube I can see there is always someone who puts the thumbs down on the very best records ever made!

Edited September 5, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Jessie Pinkman]

This one from Eddie Horan "The ups and downs of a love affair" is a wonderful tune, a slice of Mecca magic.

Billy Arnell isn't a good record to my ears so I'd sell it rather than bin it,

Gary Lewis into the bin.

 

[Keamus]

Eddie Horan is new to me and is fantastic. Thanks for the tip!

[Soulboy60]

I have to say people, I'm loving this. It's very interesting to see what you all love and don't, how they feel about tunes and in fact the scene.  Jerry Naylor seems to have thrown up some great opinions. Personally I don't like 'City Lights' however I can see why others do and that's fine. 'Happy Feet mentioned 'Jerry Fuller - Double life', as a reactivation, on that, I can agree, it's a great tune. But let's not all get too serious about this stuff, it's just a bit of fun. Though, sorry 'Goldsoul' ... I still think 'Barnaby Bye' is the biggest pile of crap but I agree with you that 'Life - cat's eyes is right up there too.

[Soulboy60]

Footsee - Wigans chosen Few ,.... When I heard this and then saw it being performed on 'Top of the Pops' I just looked down at my thread bare carpet and wondered 'WHY'.  

[Mal C]

5 hours ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

This one from Eddie Horan "The ups and downs of a love affair" is a wonderful tune, a slice of Mecca magic.

Gary Lewis into the bin.

 

Never heard this one B4, at least I don’t think I have… I would not buy it on 45, but I like it, good record…. Gary Lewis deffo in the bin… !  
 

Most if not all these tracks were played long before I started, so the stuff I didn’t like from the slow to mid tempo period, 8ts/9ts includes stuff like Joe Vina, you walked, Roscoe & Barbara / old town, good beat but leap out of the window out of tune!  Caroline Weaver was a £2 record out of a crap box, and when I sold it mid nineties it was still as un whelming as it always was, don’t understand why folks would pay a ton plus for it…

there was some right drible offered in this period, which made some of these not so soulful Wigan 7ts sounds, sound energetic in comparison!! 
 

good thread, keep em comin!

 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Mal C

[Thinksmart]

We could argue The Joker, even Frankie Crocker aren't stellar musical productions - but they are all in the weird and wonderful history now.  I don't want to edit Northern Soul, it genuinely covers the sublime to the ridiculous.

[Martyn Pitt]

6 hours ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

This one from Eddie Horan "The ups and downs of a love affair" is a wonderful tune, a slice of Mecca magic.

I have one of those somewhere, bought as a new release in the 70's, a fine tune indeed, must try and find it.

[Steviehay]

7 hours ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

This one from Eddie Horan "The ups and downs of a love affair" is a wonderful tune, a slice of Mecca magic.

Billy Arnell isn't a good record to my ears so I'd sell it rather than bin it,

Gary Lewis into the bin.

 

If you've a copy of billy please thanks 

[Soulboy60]

8 hours ago, Jessie Pinkman said:

This one from Eddie Horan "The ups and downs of a love affair" is a wonderful tune, a slice of Mecca magic.

Billy Arnell isn't a good record to my ears so I'd sell it rather than bin it,

Gary Lewis into the bin.

 

Billy Arnell and the Sparkles????? Sounds like a musical interlude on the likes of the Des O'Conner show.

 

[Soul Shrews]

I know I've already had one go but...

Re-activation, Troy Keyes "If I Had My Way"

Burn, Tim Tam & the Turn Ons "Wait A Minute"

Cheers Paul

 

 

[The Tempest]

Reactivate  Gerri ! And bin Brothers / Sisters / Cousins ! Absolutely dreadful !

 

Edited September 5, 2023 by The Tempest

[Soul Shrews]

Tempest, if I had to choose I would flip those

Re-activate  Brothers, Sisters etc

Burn Gerri Thomas.

But I could gladly live the rest of my life without hearing either.

Cheers Paul

[Soulboy60]

34 minutes ago, Soul Shrews said:

I know I've already had one go but...

Re-activation, Troy Keyes "If I Had My Way"

Burn, Tim Tam & the Turn Ons "Wait A Minute"

Cheers Paul

 

 

I say have as many go's as you like,... roll up, roll up, to the great forgettables extravaganza!

[Tlscapital]

4 minutes ago, Soul Shrews said:

Tempest, if I had to choose I would flip those

Re-activate  Brothers, Sisters etc

Burn Gerri Thomas.

But I could gladly live the rest of my life without hearing either.

Cheers Paul

Well I'm getting the same impression from here... Very mixed feelings about most 'burn'em' and 'reactrivate'em' records or is it already premature dementia mental confusion affecting my ear buds ? :-0

Anyway only re-activate record I'd vote up to now is Jerry Fuller 'double life' which I always loved regardless of anything. It is a white dude doing his best 'soul' effort. Very well achieved in my book :-°

[Soul Shrews]

38 minutes ago, Soulboy60 said:

I say have as many go's as you like,... roll up, roll up, to the great forgettables extravaganza!

OK you've twistwd my arm, One more pairing from me

Re-activate Chocolate Syrup "You're Off And Running"

Burn John Miles "One Minute Every Hour"

Cheers Paul

[Geeselad]

I'll have this from my early days on the scene

 

And this

I'm struggling to think of any proper crap that was played in the late 80's

 

[Soulboy60]

14 hours ago, Soul Shrews said:

OK you've twistwd my arm, One more pairing from me

Re-activate Chocolate Syrup "You're Off And Running"

Burn John Miles "One Minute Every Hour"

Cheers Paul

Chocolate syrup,... OH YEAH!

John Miles??? Well I wouldn't burn it but I wouldn't care if I never heard it again.

[Soulboy60]

11 hours ago, Geeselad said:

I'll have this from my early days on the scene

 

And this

I'm struggling to think of any proper crap that was played in the late 80's

 

I'll give you one,.. 'Tears - Lee Roye'. Controversial I know, I just find this tune weak and soulless. Burn it.

[Tlscapital]

18 minutes ago, Soulboy60 said:

I'll give you one,.. 'Tears - Lee Roye'. Controversial I know, I just find this tune weak and soulless. Burn it.

Bring forth the guillotine ! A firm favorite of mine 

[Soulboy60]

Another couple I'd love to reactivate.

The Trip - Dave Mitchel and the Screamers, and 'So Is The Sun - World Column'.

Two banging 100mph dancers, though I'd probably slip a disc trying to dance to these now.

[Geeselad]

6 hours ago, Soulboy60 said:

I'll give you one,.. 'Tears - Lee Roye'. Controversial I know, I just find this tune weak and soulless. Burn it.

Can't agree with you there. I'd love a copy, but different tastes are crucial 

1 hour ago, Soulboy60 said:

Another couple I'd love to reactivate.

The Trip - Dave Mitchel and the Screamers, and 'So Is The Sun - World Column'.

Two banging 100mph dancers, though I'd probably slip a disc trying to dance to these now.

Played world column out to a good response, it's not that fast, I'm guessing around 115-120 bpm

[Soulboy60]

16 hours ago, Geeselad said:

Can't agree with you there. I'd love a copy, but different tastes are crucial 

Played world column out to a good response, it's not that fast, I'm guessing around 115-120 bpm

Great to know someone's spinning 'World Column', it is a superb tune. Remember first hearing it at Cleethorpes Talk of the North, completely blew me away. Dancing to it need's some energy, it's a true stomper. When it comes to 'Lee Roye' I actually have a copy albeit a re-issue however I never play it.

[Jessie Pinkman]

On 06/09/2023 at 17:45, Soulboy60 said:

Another couple I'd love to reactivate.

The Trip - Dave Mitchel and the Screamers, and 'So Is The Sun - World Column'.

Two banging 100mph dancers, though I'd probably slip a disc trying to dance to these now.

I'm sure World Column has been getting quite a few plays over the last few years,

As for Dave Mitchell, in the 70's Simon Soussan listed Hank Jacobs "Elijah rocking with soul" for sale so I ordered a copy.

A few weeks later Dave Mitchell's The Trip arrived with a note saying I'm sorry Hank Jacobs had already been sold so I thought you'd want this one. It was just starting to get played at The Mecca.

I'd love to see it reactivated.

Edited September 7, 2023 by Jessie Pinkman

[Eddiefoster]

I wish I was qualified to comment on the Forgotten - I'm never sure if something I come across that catches my ears is a forgotten played out oldie, something the tape swappers shared, one that got a few spins somewhere but never quite made it or (now and again) a track that's largely unknown..........I would never class any record as rubbish, I've learned that it's all down to your own personal taste and that's what really matters!

However, as for Forgettable I'll be honest and most probably controversial by picking a monster tune I've never liked Lou Pride – I'm Com'un Home In The Morn'un (tin hat on LOL) even though I kinda get why it's an anthem it just doesn't do it for me! 

Interesting thread - every day a school day for me 

[Martyn Pitt]

14 hours ago, Eddiefoster said:

I've never liked Lou Pride – I'm Com'un Home In The Morn'un

Interesting thread - every day a school day for me 

You will be seeing me for detention if there is any more of this blasphemy young man