Divvies

[macca]

I'm sorry, but kiki dee's magic carpet ride to me sounds like proto carpenters & if I have one hate group it's them. horses for courses I guess.

[Billywhizz]

Billy is that you in your avatar???? sorry to be so thick .....Delxx

Yes thats me,i've seen you out and about special lady on and off the dancefloor.

Billy

[Pete S]

I'm sorry, but kiki dee's magic carpet ride to me sounds like proto carpenters & if I have one hate group it's them. horses for courses I guess.

Kinnell, the other day someone didn't like Slade, you don't like the Carpenters, you're all f*cking mad, The Carpenters are absolutely brilliant...

[Guest mel brat]

A friend who was a mod back in the late sixties told me the following story;

Apparently, a "divvy" was originally a mod term for someone who typically shopped (for clothes) at the Co-Op, that is to say they were more concerned with the "dividend" (green shield stamps) they received than any consideration about how they looked. I have no idea if this is true, but it sounds very plausible to me.

As the 'Rhythm and Soul' movement developed and evolved into Northern Soul, the term began to apply to anyone who was not into Soul music (ANY Soul music), and that is the way we used it in the early '70s as I remember, the expression being shortened to "Div" and used as a derogatory term to describe Bay City Rollers and Rod Stuart fans etc. ie. someone not cool enough to look beyond the pop charts and high street fashion for inspiration.

This interpretation was explained in an interview in a 'Sunday Times' article on Northern Soul in 1976, though had been used many times before - in Frank Elson's column in Blues & Soul for example. Soul fans may fling the expression around at each other is a jocular manner to poke fun at each other's taste, as being regarded as a "div" is the worst kind of insult when you've gone out of your way to appear otherwise! If overtly popular culture is generally regarded as "divvy" on the rare Soul scene, then it stands to reason that blatent pop recordings played at a so-called Soul event demean the venue to "Div" status.... (Draw your own conclusions from that remark!)

I first heard the expression used outside the Soul scene, by chance, while watching an episode of 'Brookside' on TV sometime in the early 1980's I think. Then one of the characters was using it to describe a generally stupid person, and subsequent media usage has continued in that vein. Perhaps the expression originated in Liverpool anyway, and entered the Rare Soul lexicon that way, who knows?

Your 'Friendly Neighbourhood Soul historian and etymologist' MB

Edited March 7, 2007 by mel brat

[Guest nubes]

Yes thats me,i've seen you out and about special lady on and off the dancefloor.

Billy

OOOh....thanks for that remark.....I am truly flattered.... will you be at Prestatyn.??...if so cya you there.....Delxx

[macca]

Kinnell, the other day someone didn't like Slade, you don't like the Carpenters, you're all f*cking mad, The Carpenters are absolutely brilliant...

no problem with slade at all. it's just that when I hear rainy days & mondays, the red mist descends & I'm enveloped. nowt I can do about it.

Edited March 7, 2007 by macca

[macca]

A friend who was a mod back in the late sixties told me the following story;

Apparently, a "divvy" was originally a mod term for someone who typically shopped (for clothes) at the Co-Op, that is to say they were more concerned with the "dividend" (green shield stamps) they received than any consideration about how they looked. I have no idea if this is true, but it sounds very plausible to me.

As the 'Rhythm and Soul' movement developed and evolved into Northern Soul, the term began to apply to anyone who was not into Soul music (ANY Soul music), and that is the way we used it in the early '70s as I remember, the expression being shortened to "Div" and used as a derogatory term to describe Bay City Rollers and Rod Stuart fans etc. ie. someone not cool enough to look beyond the pop charts and high street fashion for inspiration.

This interpretation was explained in an interview in a 'Sunday Times' article on Northern Soul in 1976, though had been used many times before - in Frank Elson's column in Blues & Soul for example. Soul fans may fling the expression around at each other is a jocular manner to poke fun at each other's taste, as being regarded as a "div" is the worst kind of insult when you've gone out of your way to appear otherwise! If overtly popular culture is generally regarded as "divvy" on the rare Soul scene, then it stands to reason that blatent pop recordings played at a so-called Soul event demean the venue to "Div" status.... (Draw your own conclusions from that remark!)

Your 'Friendly Neighbourhood Soul historian and etymologist' MB

very nice thesis MB. where shall we install the ducking stool?

M

[Guest mel brat]

very nice thesis MB. where shall we install the ducking stool?

M

The burned out plot formerly known as Wigan Casino would appear to be the most appropriate place...

Edited March 7, 2007 by mel brat

[Guest mel brat]

no proble with slade at all. it's just that when I hear rainy days & mondays, the red mist descends & I'm enveloped. nowt I can do about it.

Is it just me that finds it a bit ironic when a thread on the definition of "div" descends into a discussion on the merits of The Carpenters and Slade?!

[macca]

yeah, but part of the thread refers to the kind of records 'divs' appreciate.

someone mentioned kiki dee & I called it proto-carpenters, which I still think is a fair description. my loathing of the carps is second only to my loathing of patrick bradley.

even jambalaya by them is better than old patrick.

[ImberBoy]

Got a kind of lovely story and a bit of a confession, don't worry coz it links in with the ultimate "Divvy" tune.

Some time ago a few of us got together to raise a bit of dosh for charidy, can't remember what the fook it was for but some worthy cause like Red Nose day or Live Aid, Pete Smith should remember?

The idea was for an e-bay like auction of Northernsoul records and memorabilia, Pete can you remember mate? Mick Fitzpatrick set up the mechanics on the web via The KTF.

I had spoofed Wigan's Ovation some time before on The Imber village Soul Club site https://www.tafsc.com/Imbersoul6.htm

Believe it or not Jim McClusky, the lead singer of Wigan's Ovation contacted me and said that he wanted me to auction a very special piece of Casino memorabilia.

Jim told me a story of how Mike (Walker,) who was the manager of Wigan Casino wanted to have a "keep sake" for the fans, he came up with the idea of a T-Shirt with a print of the Casino. Mike had one T-Shirt made as a sample. The T-Shirt idea was dropped in favour of the "Soul badge" and never went into production.

Mike gave the shirt to Jim so that he could wear it at the Casino the night they played belting out such goodies as "skiing in the snow", "Northern Soul Dancer", "Personally" and Ady Crowsnest's fave "Superlove" Jim wore the shirt when they appeared on Top of the Pops, they appeared 13 times in total.

Jim sent me the shirt along with a letter of authenticity he wrote. Sadly the auction collapsed due to a "hacker". I made was left with the shirt so I made a donation to Cancer research.

I still have it now, it is a real and I believe precious piece of our sub culture history, better than a brick? I think so.

"I got Super love..........................." Fookin ultimate Divvy, ultimate souvenir....

"Heart ache souvenir" brilliant record that n far from a div tune.

[ImberBoy]

Al Wilson The Snake, always hated that and I fookin hate the divvies who have never heard "Show and tell" ........ that still make me cry to this day, the record not the Divvies.

These are the eyes that never knew how to smile

Till you came into my life (do-do-do-do-do)

And these are the arms

That long to lock you inside every day

And every night (do-do-do-do-do)

Girl, and here is the soul of which you've taken control

Can'tcha see I'm tryin' to show love is right

Whoa, oh, oh, oh show and tell

Just a game I play

When I wanna say "I love you"

Girl, so show me and tell me

That you feel the same way too

Say you do, baby

These are the hands

That can't help reaching for you

If you're anywhere in sight

(Anywhere in sight)

And these are the lips

That can't help callin' your name

In the middle of the night

(Middle of the night)

Whoa, and here is the man

Who needs to know where you stand

Dontcha know I've done all I can, so decide

Whoa, oh, oh, oh show and tell

Just a game I play

When I wanna say "I love you" (I love you)

Girl, so show me and tell me

That you feel the same way too

Say you do, say you do, baby, baby, baby

Ahh, here is the soul

Of which you've taken control

Can't you see I'm tryin' to show love is right

Ooh, girl, show and tell

Just a game I play

When I wanna say "Oh, I love you"

Girl, so show me and tell me

That you feel the same way too

Say you do, say you do, baby

Whoa, oh, oh, oh show and tell

Just a game I play

When I wanna say "Oh, I love you"

Girl, so show me and tell me

That you feel the same way too

Say you do, baby, baby

[Sharon Cooper]

A friend who was a mod back in the late sixties told me the following story;

Apparently, a "divvy" was originally a mod term for someone who typically shopped (for clothes) at the Co-Op, that is to say they were more concerned with the "dividend" (green shield stamps) they received than any consideration about how they looked. I have no idea if this is true, but it sounds very plausible to me.

As the 'Rhythm and Soul' movement developed and evolved into Northern Soul, the term began to apply to anyone who was not into Soul music (ANY Soul music), and that is the way we used it in the early '70s as I remember, the expression being shortened to "Div" and used as a derogatory term to describe Bay City Rollers and Rod Stuart fans etc. ie. someone not cool enough to look beyond the pop charts and high street fashion for inspiration.

This interpretation was explained in an interview in a 'Sunday Times' article on Northern Soul in 1976, though had been used many times before - in Frank Elson's column in Blues & Soul for example. Soul fans may fling the expression around at each other is a jocular manner to poke fun at each other's taste, as being regarded as a "div" is the worst kind of insult when you've gone out of your way to appear otherwise! If overtly popular culture is generally regarded as "divvy" on the rare Soul scene, then it stands to reason that blatent pop recordings played at a so-called Soul event demean the venue to "Div" status.... (Draw your own conclusions from that remark!)

I first heard the expression used outside the Soul scene, by chance, while watching an episode of 'Brookside' on TV sometime in the early 1980's I think. Then one of the characters was using it to describe a generally stupid person, and subsequent media usage has continued in that vein. Perhaps the expression originated in Liverpool anyway, and entered the Rare Soul lexicon that way, who knows?

Your 'Friendly Neighbourhood Soul historian and etymologist' MB

As the 'Rhythm and Soul' movement developed and evolved into Northern Soul, the term began to apply to anyone who was not into Soul music (ANY Soul music), and that is the way we used it in the early '70s as I remember, the expression being shortened to "Div"

Yep bang on this, thats exactly what the term was used for and always will be I guess, I still hear folks using it today, 37 years on(oh my God 37years) especially in some oldies venues. thing is most groups who follow particular styles, fashion, music whatever have a term to describe those not on the inside.

Div records imo:

Frank Wilson Do I Love You

Nosmo King Goodbye Nothing To Say

AL Wilson The Snake

and that dam awful Lost Summer Love,

Mr Bridget

Edited March 7, 2007 by bridget

[Guest mel brat]

...hate the divvies who have never heard "Show and Tell"..

I simply can't remember when any record had such a powerful and immediate impact on me in recent years as the accidently discovered "Keep On Loving You" which I found hiding on the flip side to the mediocre "La, La (The Peace Song)" on UK BELL. Obviously influenced by contemporary Al Green arrangements, but in no way derivitive, this mid-tempo offering is the bees knees in 70's Soul terms, and the swooning girlie chorus alone is worth anything you care to pay for it. It also happens to be cheap, cheap, cheap - but priceless in terms of genuine Soul quotient, believe me!

I recommend this beautiful mid-tempo gem to any real Soul fan unconditionally, as it has become one of my all-time favourites, and in less discerning times such as these it will act as a reminder of why Soul music bowled us over in the first place. Get it while you can. They don't make 'em like that anymore and never will again.

Edited March 7, 2007 by mel brat

[Drew3]

Still have a fondness for a youth club sound........ Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie!!!

If it's a 'div' record then so be it!!!!

KTF.

Drew.

[Guest krawen]

How about Human Jungle by the Fugitives another sound from the good old youth club days, good dance record but it's got to be classed as divvy hasn't it ? ( still like listening to it though )

Steve B

[Makemvinyl]

A friend who was a mod back in the late sixties told me the following story;

Apparently, a "divvy" was originally a mod term for someone who typically shopped (for clothes) at the Co-Op, that is to say they were more concerned with the "dividend" (green shield stamps) they received than any consideration about how they looked. I have no idea if this is true, but it sounds very plausible to me.

As the 'Rhythm and Soul' movement developed and evolved into Northern Soul, the term began to apply to anyone who was not into Soul music (ANY Soul music), and that is the way we used it in the early '70s as I remember, the expression being shortened to "Div" and used as a derogatory term to describe Bay City Rollers and Rod Stuart fans etc. ie. someone not cool enough to look beyond the pop charts and high street fashion for inspiration.

This interpretation was explained in an interview in a 'Sunday Times' article on Northern Soul in 1976, though had been used many times before - in Frank Elson's column in Blues & Soul for example. Soul fans may fling the expression around at each other is a jocular manner to poke fun at each other's taste, as being regarded as a "div" is the worst kind of insult when you've gone out of your way to appear otherwise! If overtly popular culture is generally regarded as "divvy" on the rare Soul scene, then it stands to reason that blatent pop recordings played at a so-called Soul event demean the venue to "Div" status.... (Draw your own conclusions from that remark!)

I first heard the expression used outside the Soul scene, by chance, while watching an episode of 'Brookside' on TV sometime in the early 1980's I think. Then one of the characters was using it to describe a generally stupid person, and subsequent media usage has continued in that vein. Perhaps the expression originated in Liverpool anyway, and entered the Rare Soul lexicon that way, who knows?

Your 'Friendly Neighbourhood Soul historian and etymologist' MB

Cocked up

it was Rod Stewart

who in the early days of Rock was a part of the RnB circuit around London and was a regular at The Marquee and such places of musical creativity along with Legends as Eric Clapton ,etc too many to blag,so Rod Stewart Fans were ongoing from Steampackett"Bluesology,A legendary Rock Group in the day according to current rock and Indie fans in "THE FACES"

So Rod Stewart fans did not and where not associated with Bay City Roller fans at any given time

Wite soul singer in his early days and a millionaire many times over on a par with Jagger.

Its just the great American song book series has turned him into a Div of the highest order

IMO

[Guest mel brat]

Cocked up

it was Rod Stewart

who in the early days of Rock was a part of the RnB circuit around London and was a regular at The Marquee and such places of musical creativity along with Legends as Eric Clapton ,etc too many to blag,so Rod Stewart Fans were ongoing from Steampackett"Bluesology,A legendary Rock Group in the day according to current rock and Indie fans in "THE FACES"

So Rod Stewart fans did not and where not associated with Bay City Roller fans at any given time

Wite soul singer in his early days and a millionaire many times over on a par with Jagger.

Its just the great American song book series has turned him into a Div of the highest order

IMO

I'm well aware of Rod Stuart's early history ('Rod the Mod' they called him then I believe) but however good a ROCK band Rod Stuart and The Faces later became, they have nothing to do with Soul music. He sold out to pop-rock just as the loathesome Stones sold out, and without giving dude credit to his influences either. That's worse than a div in my book!

Nobody SAID that Rod Stuart was "associated with the Bay City Rollers" (apart from the fact that they were both overly fond of tartan scarves!) but after the success of "Maggie May", the majority of Rod Stuart's fans in the early 70's were pop wankers and divs in the vein of the glam-rock crowd, as anyone unfortunate enough to witness them "strutting" up and down in imitation of their hero at any local disco prior to 1972/3 would attest.

Ask comedian Lenny Henry (another div). He used to hang around with 'em in my area!

Edited March 8, 2007 by mel brat

[Guest Michael Higgins]

The Shotgun Express "I could see the whole world turn around" (Decca) with Rod the Mod on vocals is a fantastic mod/popsoul tune im(humble)o. Not at all div.

I'd post the darn thing if I could get any of my files to upload! Anyone wanting it on a windows media player file can PM me.

Cocked up

it was Rod Stewart

who in the early days of Rock was a part of the RnB circuit around London and was a regular at The Marquee and such places of musical creativity along with Legends as Eric Clapton ,etc too many to blag,so Rod Stewart Fans were ongoing from Steampackett"Bluesology,A legendary Rock Group in the day according to current rock and Indie fans in "THE FACES"

So Rod Stewart fans did not and where not associated with Bay City Roller fans at any given time

Wite soul singer in his early days and a millionaire many times over on a par with Jagger.

Its just the great American song book series has turned him into a Div of the highest order

IMO

[Pete S]

The Shotgun Express "I could see the whole world turn around" (Decca) with Rod the Mod on vocals is a fantastic mod/popsoul tune im(humble)o. Not at all div.

I'd post the darn thing if I could get any of my files to upload! Anyone wanting it on a windows media player file can PM me.

It's actually on Columbia. Beryl Marsden was also in the band.

[Guest Bearsoul]

It's actually on Columbia. Beryl Marsden was also in the band.

Doesn't make him Soul but certainly a lover and afficionado of Soul, Rod played with 'Long John Baldrys Hoochie CoochieMen' too ! Reg Dwight aka Elton John was sometimes on keyboards , they regularly played the Twisted Wheel and all other Clubs on the R&B circuit, mixing with the cream of visiting USA Soul Stars ! His main influence was Sam Cooke, I have a lot of respect for Rod,,,certainly not a Div..nor those who like his take on R&B.

[Billy Freemantle]

[ Rod Stewart's] main influence was Sam Cooke, I have a lot of respect for Rod,,,certainly not a Div...

With you there. For a white boy he can sing a bit and his version of 'Twisting the Night Away' was a good tribute I thought. But he was a bit of a dick-head and encouraged nearly as many silly haircuts as David Bowie.

[Guest Michael Higgins]

Oops! Glad to be put right. That's what I get for not double checking!

It's actually on Columbia. Beryl Marsden was also in the band.

[ImberBoy]

We all know there are records well and truly in the "cringe" category. But I think there are three "Cringe" categories...

1. The "Crap Cringe" Always a dodgy one here as "One mans meat is another's poison" but generally speaking there are tunes played on the scene that make ya cringe coz they are either soulless or just crap, these shouldn't be confuse as "Played out", these are the actual crap ones! The Joker-Mylestones, Superlove - David & The Giants, Nine Times Out of Ten - Muriel Day, Al Wilson - The Snake, The Flasher - Mistura (Featuring Lloyd Michels), Ventures - Hawaii 5-0, Gary Lewis & The Playboys - My Hearts's Symphony, Brian Hyland - The Joker went wild, and any thing that is unlistenable shit including most crossover and modern soul.

2. Then we have The "Divvy Cringe" 'Tailor Mades', records produced specifically to feed the Northern Dance Craze and again murky water because not all of them where, they just sounded like they where! "Lenny Gamble - I'll do anything, Loving On The Losing Side - Tommy Hunt, Our Love is in the Pocket - J.J. Barnes, Nine Times Out of Ten - Muriel Day, Our Love is in the Pocket - J.J. Barnes, The Wigan Joker - The Royal Vibes, The Theme from Coloured Man - Teddy Vann, Out of my Mind - Rain with Charity Brown, Captain of my ship - Seventh Wonder, The Exciters - Reaching For The Best, Jay & The Techniques - Apple Peaches Pumpkin Pie, The Formations - At The Top Of The Stairs, The Four Vandals - Wrong side of town. Barry Gray - Joe 90, Northernsoul inc - Something keeps holding me back

3. The "Unfair Cringe" Records. These are the soulful tunes that have been hijacked or bushwhacked not just by the Divvies or for the Divvies but for the general public, who lets face it, are all a bunch of fookin divvies.

I think the Divvies most heinous crime is to make Joe Public believe that this is the Northernsoul Scene, have we now lost some superb tunes to the land of the Divvies?

Tainted Love - Jones, Gloria, Seven Days Too Long - Wood, Chuck, Lost Summer Love - Silver, Lorraine, Cause You're Mine - Vibrations, Madeline Bell's 'Picture Me Gone'. Jerry Butler - Moody Woman, Bobby Hebb - You Want To Change Me, Mickey Moonshine - Name It You Got It. Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons - I'm Gonna Change. Better Use Your Head - Little Anthony and the Imperials, Frankie & Johnny - I'll hold you?

Now before you all start grenading me please remember that I am not a full time member of the soul police, I just help them out every now and again. Besides at the end of the day I kinda always was and always will be...... a Divvy like you, its just that I want the Yum Yums - Gonna be big thing and the Charades - The key to my happiness back from the Divvies because they are burnt into my soul.

[Makemvinyl]

I'm well aware of Rod Stuart's early history ('Rod the Mod' they called him then I believe) but however good a ROCK band Rod Stuart and The Faces later became, they have nothing to do with Soul music. He sold out to pop-rock just as the loathesome Stones sold out, and without giving dude credit to his influences either. That's worse than a div in my book!

Nobody SAID that Rod Stuart was "associated with the Bay City Rollers" (apart from the fact that they were both overly fond of tartan scarves!) but after the success of "Maggie May", the majority of Rod Stuart's fans in the early 70's were pop wankers and divs in the vein of the glam-rock crowd, as anyone unfortunate enough to witness them "strutting" up and down in imitation of their hero at any local disco prior to 1972/3 would attest.

Ask comedian Lenny Henry (another div). He used to hang around with 'em in my area!

Yer still cant spell STEWART

and even after Maggie May with his colleagues in the FACES formerly Small Faces a Mod band of the highest order did not sell out just expanded and like all artists tried new things,

pity he doesnt now,but am still a fan

Divvy Hall

[Makemvinyl]

And the old adage comes up is Soul Black

or what is sung soulfully

mmmm

[caseoftyme]

Whit horses..A song from my youth..Soundfile please in freebasing,not on this topic...

The Div thing is just a matter of taste..One played out track is a div record and another a cool record that stands the test of time..

My Div would be.... Nine times out of ten..

My cool would be.. Time...

Don't wanna hear Time every week but it still sounds great on a big soundsystem..Don't wanna hear Queen of Fools ever again..

Danced to Queen of fools very recently. Always requested by the same fella, packs the floor, excellent track - what is divvi about it ???????

[Peter99]

Al Wilson The Snake, always hated that and I fookin hate the divvies who have never heard "Show and tell" ........ that still make me cry to this day, the record not the Divvies.

These are the eyes that never knew how to smile

Till you came into my life (do-do-do-do-do)

And these are the arms

That long to lock you inside every day

And every night (do-do-do-do-do)

Girl, and here is the soul of which you've taken control

Can'tcha see I'm tryin' to show love is right

Whoa, oh, oh, oh show and tell

Just a game I play

When I wanna say "I love you"

Girl, so show me and tell me

That you feel the same way too

Say you do, baby

These are the hands

That can't help reaching for you

If you're anywhere in sight

(Anywhere in sight)

And these are the lips

That can't help callin' your name

In the middle of the night

(Middle of the night)

Whoa, and here is the man

Who needs to know where you stand

Dontcha know I've done all I can, so decide

Whoa, oh, oh, oh show and tell

Just a game I play

When I wanna say "I love you" (I love you)

Girl, so show me and tell me

That you feel the same way too

Say you do, say you do, baby, baby, baby

Ahh, here is the soul

Of which you've taken control

Can't you see I'm tryin' to show love is right

Ooh, girl, show and tell

Just a game I play

When I wanna say "Oh, I love you"

Girl, so show me and tell me

That you feel the same way too

Say you do, say you do, baby

Whoa, oh, oh, oh show and tell

Just a game I play

When I wanna say "Oh, I love you"

Girl, so show me and tell me

That you feel the same way too

Say you do, baby, baby

Absolute class!

[Guest kermack]

My picks would have to be either of The Reflections 'Adam & Eve' or 'Romeo & Juliet'............

John

[Steve G]

With you there. For a white boy he can sing a bit and his version of 'Twisting the Night Away' was a good tribute I thought.

WHAT????? Rod Stewart can sing??????

Rod Stewart has committed more crimes against soul music than anyone else I can think of on a sunday morning - and that includes the Stones. Have you ever heard his appalling versions of "If loving you is wrong", "Oh no not my baby" etc. He butchered these records and there's no sign of any singing on them as far as I can hear, just awful off key croaking......total sh*te - YUK

[Chalky]

Even in the 60s i loved the super rare Human Beinz....

These days Nobody But Me and Pushin Too hard would get played in the mod psych room not the Northern and Touch Of Velvet in the lounge music sofa room for you to smoke your cigar to.

Watching the film The Departed last night and sure Nobody But Me was in the soundtrack

[Munchkin]

how bout tim tam + turn ons..... wait a minute....used to dance my socks off to this wouldnt even let it near my record box now

[Guest biggray1]

Fookin Footseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[soulAdequateNP]

Watching the film The Departed last night and sure Nobody But Me was in the soundtrack

'Twas also briefly in Kill Bill during one of the scenes

[Zed1]

HHhmmmmm.. Interesting thread!.

IIRC from Wigan the term 'Div' had little or nothing to do with what 'type' of Soul you were into, but more the number of 'Day Trippers' who were not into Soul of any genre, their only reason for going to Wigan was to say "They had been"...

Hence the 'Push Div's off the balcony' badges that many people wore.....

Not that I did of course!!....

Edited March 25, 2007 by Teapot

[Guest ScooterNik]

The Tams two: Hey Girl.... and Be Young....

These to me are of a fourth tpe of divvyness... the 'not really soul but somehow connected with the scene"type of record. Same as the endless TV themes I suppose, but to me both of these bring back memories of learning to dance, early youth club sessions etc

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

I would be a divvie if i played out on the floor but who cares. to me it's Northern soul isn't that what we go to listen to regardless of what song it is.

could be worse the DJ who played Gary Glitter at Wigan for whatever reason

[Pete S]

My picks would have to be either of The Reflections 'Adam & Eve' or 'Romeo & Juliet'............

John

Both of those are in my all time top 30 favourites!

[Pete S]

WHAT????? Rod Stewart can sing??????

Rod Stewart has committed more crimes against soul music than anyone else I can think of on a sunday morning - and that includes the Stones. Have you ever heard his appalling versions of "If loving you is wrong", "Oh no not my baby" etc. He butchered these records and there's no sign of any singing on them as far as I can hear, just awful off key croaking......total sh*te - YUK

Sorry to disagree but his version of Oh No Not My Baby was fantastic

[Steve G]

Sorry to disagree but his version of Oh No Not My Baby was fantastic

Is this the "Monday Joke" Pete??? Attrocious butchery of a damn fine soul record if anyone asks me.

[Guest Simon]

My "divvie" record would be Andre Brasseur - The kid, love it to bits!

Btw the flip to The Shotgun Express 'Curtains' is a superb Mod dancer.

Simon

[Pete S]

Is this the "Monday Joke" Pete??? Attrocious butchery of a damn fine soul record if anyone asks me.

No, I like the way he phrases it differently, it's brilliant. Though I heard it before I heard Maxine Brown's version so it's what I was used to.

[oldsteve woomble]

WHAT????? Rod Stewart can sing??????

Rod Stewart has committed more crimes against soul music than anyone else I can think of on a sunday morning - and that includes the Stones. Have you ever heard his appalling versions of "If loving you is wrong", "Oh no not my baby" etc. He butchered these records and there's no sign of any singing on them as far as I can hear, just awful off key croaking......total sh*te - YUK

I reckon Rod's version of 'The First Cut is the deepest' is fantabulous! As is 'I don't want to talk about it'. And ''The killing of georgie'. Then again he's done some well dodgy kak too.............

On the supposed 'divvie' tip, Robert Knight ' Love on a mountain top' always does it for me. Played it at Brighouse Ritz a couple of years ago. Half the crowd wanted to have me knighted immediately, the other half wanted me taken out and shot. I suppose it's when no-one gives a f*ck you've got to worry! Happy days!

Steve

[Steve G]

I reckon Rod's version of 'The First Cut is the deepest' is fantabulous!

Steve

[oldsteve woomble]

Steve those 3 shaking heads look like me, soul sam & arthur fenn

[Steve G]

Steve those 3 shaking heads look like me, soul sam & arthur fenn

Ha! It's actually me, Sam and Arfa.

What's with all this Rod Stewart stuff on here peeps? I am fully expecting one of you to pop up and tell me that "Sailing" is a soul classic next......

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

To me Rod Stewart is a legend, but although maybe he dabbled at R & B/soul back in the 60's dosen't mean because he wanted to be a rock singer it made him bad. he was and still is a legend, all his stuff from the 70's - 90's was and still are rock classics apart from d'ya think i'm sexy where he tries disco which was bad. The thing rod has done for the last say 5 years is great american songbook which might be good but to me average.

If rod is influenced on soul music fine, but to question him is questions how good a rock singer he is.