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When I'm gone is a well known Motown tune that has always got people on the dance floor going back to the first decade of Northern Soul, but I have questions.
It has two different numbers, 114312 and 118209, both pressed on a Tamla label as 54111.  I've noticed lately that sellers are claiming both numbers to be the alternative mix, or the rarer take etc.
What is the actual difference when you listen to the two, is there an obvious way to tell which version you are listening to ?
Is it known which version got released in other countries? which mix came out on UK TMG ?
Seems to be both different numbers can be found on the WDJ releases, do both numbers appear on the stock copies?

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2 hours ago, purist said:

When I'm gone is a well known Motown tune that has always got people on the dance floor going back to the first decade of Northern Soul, but I have questions.
It has two different numbers, 114312 and 118209, both pressed on a Tamla label as 54111.  I've noticed lately that sellers are claiming both numbers to be the alternative mix, or the rarer take etc.
What is the actual difference when you listen to the two, is there an obvious way to tell which version you are listening to ?
Is it known which version got released in other countries? which mix came out on UK TMG ?
Seems to be both different numbers can be found on the WDJ releases, do both numbers appear on the stock copies?

 

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When I'm Gone (William Robinson) published Jobete 01-Jun-64

Brenda Holloway; recorded Hitsville, completed 12-Jan-65 ; produced by Smokey Robinson ; [2nd odb, odb on Mary Wells]

unreleased; LP (M): Tamla T263 Hurtin' And Cryin'
Feb-65; 45 (M): Tamla TM 54111 A [1st pressing] [1st mix]
09-Feb-65; 45 (M): Tamla TM 54111 A [2nd pressing] [2nd mix]

courtesy of Don't Forget The Motor City

http://www.dftmc.info/index.html

 

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After listening to both versions back to back on "The Complete Motown Singles...1965", I did find one difference between the 2 versions. On the original mix (...312), Brenda ends the song by singing "What Are You Gonna Do When I'm Gone" four times. On the 2nd version (...209), Brenda ends the song by singing "What Are You Gonna Do When I'm Gone " five times. This version did last longer- some copies have the time as 2:05, some as 2:10- maybe Motown didn't want to have to re-do the time on the labels and left it as is?

     "When I'm Gone" was a big seller for Brenda- it went to #25 Pop and Soul -#12 on the Billboard charts.

 

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