two instrumental questions ?

[Simon T]

Not really into instruments, but love these two

1. The Michigan Move    Mafmon pressing

2. Moods   Bell Sound acetate

Have their correct titles ever been established? Better still,

 

 

is there a vocal in existence?

TIA

Does Carl F still have the Moods acetate

 

 

 

[Tlscapital]

The below one (posted twice the mp3) is the "Michigan Move" by the "Phrenetics Band" I believe right ? That sounds like some European (could very well be British) to me.

The top mp3 be it the "Moods" I have no idea what it is at all. It sounds rather loud to invite any vocals on top of it. To me it sounds like some instrumentals meant to be that.

Edited June 12, 2023 by Tlscapital

[Simon T]

Thanks, memory jogged. MM was labelled as the  Phonetics Band. It was amongst those Detroit instrumentals that Guy Hennigan had about 40 years ago

The 'Moods' is a one sided Bell Sound acetate that I last had in my hands 20 years ago give or take a week. Only got two 'recordings' of it when Carl Fortnum played it out. I'm sure it came via a UK dealer

[Simon T]

 

[Tlscapital]

Uh can't say any better. That's what the awful boot on Golden Eye credits this... Phonetics / Phrenetics.. You know...

Edited June 12, 2023 by Tlscapital

[Chalky]

No one knows who The Band is behind Michigan Move or its real name. In Guys words “Michigan Move came off an unlabelled, unnamed, no details at all master-tape. It could have been done at Golden World privately, only because there was a pile of Golden World master-tapes with it, but it was in a different tape box”.

[Tlscapital]

Sorry but I'm a bit confused here as the bootleg of the Phrenetics Band titled (wrongly then or what ?) titled 'the Michigan Move' as the B-side of 'pyramid' by the Soul Brothers Inc. plays the mp3 posted twice and at the bottom of the OP. That to me sound like a European (UK) thingy. All misleading to me somehow... Clarification please ?

Mind you I'm not in the known as to what those acetate were "titited" by the dee-jays/owners back then. While the first tune (not doubled) mp3 proposed in the OP is proposed here as the 'Michigan Move' (Mafmon Pressing) that indeed sounds Detroit. Reminding me some (in it's drive and Oomph) of the Sidra 'the other side' by the "5 Of a Kind".

Or "the Holidays" 'makin' up time' on Golden World too. And here we're getting somewhere. Evidently not 'the Holidays' just like not the garage band the '5 lf a Kind' but evidently some 'Funk Bros.' session used as 'flip fillers'. Hence the D'Orleans Music Publishing credit and the Golden World connection and the acetates batch this one came with.

Thanks for sharing that instrumental that is new to me. Really I dig it and get the enthusiasm of the punters and dancers clapping and whistles in that 'Rugby' video. Feeding the background connection here with my bits for 'thank you' here with this little 'tell-tale' connection as the Sidra after Golden World 'sell-out' was fueled by 'heritage'.

Edited June 13, 2023 by Tlscapital

[Chalky]

Guy Hennigan found Michigan Move, it had no title nothing, he found the master tapes from which a decent cut was mixed and put to acetate (with Chris King). Think that is the story from memory.  It was a monster spin at Stafford. 

Phrenetics Band (as it became known) along with Pyramid was indeed a Uk thing. 

[Tlscapital]

So here as N° 1. the the Guy H. Stafford spin that he named 'Michigan Move' (logically) and N° 2. the 'Moods( titled by dee-jay ?) is the actually Phrenetics Band wrongfully (intentionally or not) titled on the bootleg as 'Michigan Move'.

ConfusionS... But I think I got it now. Thanks.

1. The Michigan Move    Mafmon pressing

2. Moods   Bell Sound acetate

Have their correct titles ever been established? Better still,

[Chalky]

3 hours ago, Tlscapital said:

So here as N° 1. the the Guy H. Stafford spin that he named 'Michigan Move' (logically) and N° 2. the 'Moods( titled by dee-jay ?) is the actually Phrenetics Band wrongfully (intentionally or not) titled on the bootleg as 'Michigan Move'.

ConfusionS... But I think I got it now. Thanks.

1. The Michigan Move    Mafmon pressing

2. Moods   Bell Sound acetate

Have their correct titles ever been established? Better still,

The one posted twice is Michigan Move. The video and the first snippett is The Moods

@Pumpkinseed Carl will have all the info on the Moods

[Simon T]

1 hour ago, Chalky said:

 

@Pumpkinseed Carl will have all the info on the Moods

Good luck with that one Karl, I've known Carl for 40 years +and for half of those I've been trying to get a sound file off him to no avail. Although he did once offer to hum it down the phone for me!

 

Edited June 13, 2023 by Simon T

[Chalky]

34 minutes ago, Simon T said:

Good luck with that one Karl, I've known Carl for 40 years +and for half of those I've been trying to get a sound file off him to no avail. Although he did once offer to hum it down the phone for me!

 

NO not after a sound file, just then info

[Simon T]

2 minutes ago, Chalky said:

NO not after a sound file, just then info

If you can get me a good sound file of the 'moods' acetate, I'd be eternally grateful. I don't know anyone, except Carl who would be able to provide one or indeed has one.  My question was really to see if someone would post up 'where have you been living, in a cave?'   It's ABC, on the b side of XYZ that came out on Casino Classics in 1872 with a picture sleeve in Azerbaijan.

[Solidsoul]

Guy's,  Detroit Rhythm Section instrumental of "Back Street" was also great in the venue!

Edited June 14, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Dobber]

On 13/06/2023 at 06:20, Chalky said:

No one knows who The Band is behind Michigan Move or its real name. In Guys words “Michigan Move came off an unlabelled, unnamed, no details at all master-tape. It could have been done at Golden World privately, only because there was a pile of Golden World master-tapes with it, but it was in a different tape box”.

So did guy name it the Michigan move? Great title,but how the hell did he decide on a title named after a hockey move?

[Chalky]

3 hours ago, Dobber said:

So did guy name it the Michigan move? Great title,but how the hell did he decide on a title named after a hockey move?

@Guyh

[Soulman]

19 hours ago, Simon T said:

If you can get me a good sound file of the 'moods' acetate, I'd be eternally grateful. I don't know anyone, except Carl who would be able to provide one or indeed has one.  My question was really to see if someone would post up 'where have you been living, in a cave?'   It's ABC, on the b side of XYZ that came out on Casino Classics in 1872 with a picture sleeve in Azerbaijan.

Simon.... from you of all people, I would have expected more. Everyone knows the Casino opened in 1873 not 1872. Forsooth, do you not have the pin badge that would hold up your pantaloons whilst flipping and spinning like a "jenny" in the mills of yesteryear? 

[Simon T]

The copy i saw definitely had 1872 on the label 'Not for Sale - Promotion Only', maybe it was an Advance Copy (boom, boom)

[Guyh]

I didn't realise there was a ice hockey play sequence called The Michigan Move... they must have heard the record at Stafford

[Chalky]

10 minutes ago, Guyh said:

I didn't realise there was a ice hockey play sequence called The Michigan Move... they must have heard the record at Stafford

https://www.nhl.com/video/history-of-the-michigan-move/t-277350912/c-70018903
 

Edited June 19, 2023 by Chalky

[Dobber]

1 hour ago, Guyh said:

I didn't realise there was a ice hockey play sequence called The Michigan Move... they must have heard the record at Stafford

How the hell did you come up with that title guy?

[Guyh]

I have a "flair" for cover-ups mate

[Solidsoul]

15 hours ago, Guyh said:

I have a "flair" for cover-ups mate

Two I remember,

Big Joe's Ivory Brass

Casanova Bennett

Edited June 20, 2023 by Solidsoul

[Guyh]

Cheers Solidsoul