Help identifying this track please.

[Quinvy]

Just going through loads of old minidiscs, and can't remember anything about this track. Sounds like a Carolinas thing?

[Neal Bull]

sounds like the uniques , joe samply,

simular to not too long ago on paula

[Mike]

 

1 hour ago, Quinvy said:

Just going through loads of old minidiscs, and can't remember anything about this track. Sounds like a Carolinas thing?

that was a good memory exercise, I got there in the end

Survivors - Good Baby - Valli

always brought a smile to my face hearing that out

[Neal Bull]

good tune buddy

[Quinvy]

Thanks Mike. Nobody could get it, tried shazam etc

 Not really soul, but very catchy.

Edited April 26, 2023 by Quinvy

[Mgm 1251]

4 hours ago, Neal Bull said:

sounds like the uniques , joe samply,

simular to not too long ago on paula

Also like, ‘The Minute My Back Was Turned’ by Roger Pace on Select...

[Neal Bull]

[Mark B]

Wasn’t there another version of this

[Floyd]

just noticed correct title given so cancelled comment

ATB

Floyd

Edited April 26, 2023 by Floyd

[Dobber]

I think Carl willingham broke the tune,and for a short while was a demand and pricey item,then of course eBay churned out many copies,until it was a 100 quid record,and of course less desirable as it got cheaper

[Chalky]

1 hour ago, Dobber said:

I think Carl willingham broke the tune,and for a short while was a demand and pricey item,then of course eBay churned out many copies,until it was a 100 quid record,and of course less desirable as it got cheaper

Carl did have it first, I had the second, well second to play it out 

[Dobber]

7 minutes ago, Chalky said:

Carl did have it first, I had the second, well second to play it out 

Am I right that a lot of copies turned up,I certainly remember a spell of it appearing on lists for 100 to 150 quid for a good while?

[Chalky]

5 minutes ago, Dobber said:

Am I right that a lot of copies turned up,I certainly remember a spell of it appearing on lists for 100 to 150 quid for a good while?

it would be sometime before they all began to turn up.  We both had some decent play out of it, Carl longer than me of course. 

[Jez Jones]

On 27/04/2023 at 10:00, Dobber said:

I think Carl willingham broke the tune,and for a short while was a demand and pricey item,then of course eBay churned out many copies,until it was a 100 quid record,and of course less desirable as it got cheaper

Oh thats interesting...are you saying a record's desirability depends on its value ?

[Geeselad]

24 minutes ago, Jez Jones said:

Oh thats interesting...are you saying a record's desirability depends on its value ?

Well it's certainly nowt to do with quality in this case.

[Chalky]

59 minutes ago, Jez Jones said:

Oh thats interesting...are you saying a record's desirability depends on its value ?

Well the majority of div or cheque book Djs don't seem to want anything not en vogue or costing less than 4 figures

[Paraboliccurve]

1 hour ago, Jez Jones said:

Oh thats interesting...are you saying a record's desirability depends on its value ?

I think for almost all of us this has to be a factor, but for most of us the major driver is the other way round - a record's value (itself a very difficult thing to pin down) depends on its desirability.

That desirability can have many causes - we'd all like to pretend it's just about the sound in the grooves, but I'm pretty sure that, in a slightly circular way, price, whether as derived from rarity or some other factor, can be one of them.

 

[Jez Jones]

47 minutes ago, Paraboliccurve said:

I think for almost all of us this has to be a factor, but for most of us the major driver is the other way round - a record's value (itself a very difficult thing to pin down) depends on its desirability.

That desirability can have many causes - we'd all like to pretend it's just about the sound in the grooves, but I'm pretty sure that, in a slightly circular way, price, whether as derived from rarity or some other factor, can be one of them.

 

This is the  bit I find difficult to comprehend......surely(but could be wrong) the acquisition of a desirable object at a price lower than market value.(dont quote me on what is market value..pick a number sometimes  ).is something to strive for

So in essence

Desirable Object- bought for bargain price ..... = mission complete 

[Jez Jones]

2 hours ago, Chalky said:

Well the majority of div or cheque book Djs don't seem to want anything not en vogue or costing less than 4 figures

Yeah but thats to climb the DJ ladder to success  lol

...not to collect desirable tunes

Dont forget you dont get worshipped with cheap records...

[Chalky]

1 hour ago, Jez Jones said:

Yeah but thats to climb the DJ ladder to success  lol

...not to collect desirable tunes

Dont forget you dont get worshipped with cheap records...

Tell me about it 

[Dobber]

4 hours ago, Jez Jones said:

Oh thats interesting...are you saying a record's desirability depends on its value ?

You’ve been around long enough to know that the desirability of a record is driven by the value not the quality,especially on the way up! This record in question and off the top of my head..Clara hardy,royal esquires,these two also were big ticket items and you would have killed your mother for a copy,but then boxes turn up,then the value drops on its arse and no one wanted them,they would rot away in sales list at a 100 quid,but now the value has risen and rising,people want them again! It’s the same with everything I suppose,kids wouldn’t want Gucci if they were sold in sports direct for a tenner!

[Jez Jones]

42 minutes ago, Dobber said:

You’ve been around long enough to know that the desirability of a record is driven by the value not the quality,especially on the way up! This record in question and off the top of my head..Clara hardy,royal esquires,these two also were big ticket items and you would have killed your mother for a copy,but then boxes turn up,then the value drops on its arse and no one wanted them,they would rot away in sales list at a 100 quid,but now the value has risen and rising,people want them again! It’s the same with everything I suppose,kids wouldn’t want Gucci if they were sold in sports direct for a tenner!

so you're saying yes it does depend on its value...which is fair enough.....i have a different view....but its ok..it was a genuine question....

[Dobber]

Yes I’m afraid I am one of them where the higher the value the more blinded I become,for example I would love to bid on the Mello souls at what looks to be a high amount,but in all honesty,if  it was a major label item with boxes of copy’s around,and it was a 10 quid record,I wouldn’t look twice at it!

however it terms of QUALITY,it is the best northern soul record ever!

[Jez Jones]

7 minutes ago, Dobber said:

Yes I’m afraid I am one of them where the higher the value the more blinded I become,for example I would love to bid on the Mello souls at what looks to be a high amount,but in all honesty,if  it was a major label item with boxes of copy’s around,and it was a 10 quid record,I wouldn’t look twice at it!

however it terms of QUALITY,it is the best northern soul record ever!

Thats fair play mate.....as ya say I've been round long enough to know what I value and what I find lacks in value......

[Dobber]

3 minutes ago, Jez Jones said:

Thats fair play mate.....as ya say I've been round long enough to know what I value and what I find lacks in value......

Very well put mate

[Geeselad]

3 hours ago, Dobber said:

Yes I’m afraid I am one of them where the higher the value the more blinded I become,for example I would love to bid on the Mello souls at what looks to be a high amount,but in all honesty,if  it was a major label item with boxes of copy’s around,and it was a 10 quid record,I wouldn’t look twice at it!

however it terms of QUALITY,it is the best northern soul record ever!

But you wouldn't find a record like the mello souls on a major label or the del larks for that matter. There's nothing commercial about it, I'm unsure of what market it was aimed at, a happy accident by made by some kids. That raw sound that's still sophisticated it's truly a rare quantity in the genre. 

[Amsterdam Russ]

4 hours ago, Dobber said:

Yes I’m afraid I am one of them where the higher the value the more blinded I become,for example I would love to bid on the Mello souls at what looks to be a high amount,but in all honesty,if  it was a major label item with boxes of copy’s around,and it was a 10 quid record,I wouldn’t look twice at it!

however it terms of QUALITY,it is the best northern soul record ever!

Would it still be "the best northern soul record ever" if it was available for 10 quid when, if there were loads of copies, you "wouldn't look twice at it"?

That's contrary. I'm confused!

[Amsterdam Russ]

51 minutes ago, Geeselad said:

I'm unsure of what market it was aimed at,

Like all small label releases, it was aimed at the local market - fans of the band; those who supported them at local gigs. Family members, relatives and friends. Maybe there was - or the hope of –  some local radio airplay - and always with the dream the 45 might go regional, and then, if they were really lucky, getting picked up by a major label for national release, and all the promotion that came with it. The Northern Soul scene, as we know, is made up of countless tunes that (to paraphrase the Mello Souls) never made it. 

[Dobber]

18 hours ago, Amsterdam Russ said:

Would it still be "the best northern soul record ever" if it was available for 10 quid when, if there were loads of copies, you "wouldn't look twice at it"?

That's contrary. I'm confused!

Yes for me it would be and is the best northern soul record ever,I just wouldn’t be interested in owning it if it was 10 a penny,the quality and the desirability are 2 separate things to me.

[Dobber]

1 minute ago, Dobber said:

Yes for me it would be and is the best northern soul record ever,I just wouldn’t be interested in owning it if it was 10 a penny,the quality and the desirability are 2 separate things to me.

Equally I also think the intruders better check yourself is up there with best,but because it’s readily available and (cheap ish) I’ve no desire to own it,however if it was an under 10 known copy record I would want it! Stupid I know,but I’m not interested In a room full of records I would never play,just a jewellery box of gorgeous items

[Lionelonthevinyl]

1 hour ago, Dobber said:

Equally I also think the intruders better check yourself is up there with best,but because it’s readily available and (cheap ish) I’ve no desire to own it,however if it was an under 10 known copy record I would want it! Stupid I know,but I’m not interested In a room full of records I would never play,just a jewellery box of gorgeous items

A good honest answer....Rob