Paul Capon Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) Question. I have an Anderson Brothers ‘I can see him loving you’ promo on GSF Mine is on VINYL and has the prominent ridge 1/3rd of the way into the label which is sited as the boot BUT my copy has MONO labels on both sides. All the copies on Discogs etc have STEREO / MONO labels. The matrix does have GSFS1179 and GSFM1179 in the dead wax and it does play STEREO/MONO Run out widths are 10mm stereo 12mm mono My copy pics and at the end the Discogs pics of the listed boot. Do I just have another version of the boot that hasn’t been listed on Discogs??? Edited April 17, 2023 by Paul Capon Minor change 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kjw Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Isn't it just the bootleg that has somehow ended up with two mono labels at the pressing plant ? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul Capon Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 Could well be! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Greedy Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 This has been interesting reading, but how would you know an original as there seems to be lots of reissues etc? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, Greedy Mick said: This has been interesting reading, but how would you know an original as there seems to be lots of reissues etc? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Julianb Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 John Manship's book gives the definitive on the deadwax readings. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Solution Paul Capon Posted April 24, 2023 Author Solution Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) UPDATE: Another dealer mentioned a persons name when I was asking about the bootleg of the Anderson Brothers that I had and I posted this. No accusations were made and this post has been removed. I’ve messaged that person just in case it is really him. Apologise for any confusion or offence this caused. Edited April 25, 2023 by Paul Capon Updated Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Reed Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Yip that does look like the boot which i purchased around about 76 the only difference i can see on your label was mine was a shiney glossy type paper label. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rhino Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Manship just got a proper copy coming up for auction I think 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/anderson-brothers-i-can-see-him-loving-you-stereo-2-35-same-mono-2-35-version-gsf-6914-dj.html Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 9 hours ago, Woodbutcher said: https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/anderson-brothers-i-can-see-him-loving-you-stereo-2-35-same-mono-2-35-version-gsf-6914-dj.html Am not used to check John's auction 'live' pages but what a shame it is that one can't enlarge the record's image directly from the site. Even if not totally at least partially for closer inspection... Like even the eVilBay's offering for minuter details of the records condition and or certification and confidence for the buyer prior placing a bid if ever. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, Tlscapital said: Am not used to check John's auction 'live' pages but what a shame it is that one can't enlarge the record's image directly from the site. Even if not totally at least partially for closer inspection... Like even the eVilBay's offering for minuter details of the records condition and or certification and confidence for the buyer prior placing a bid if ever. I agree , considering how much useless waffle usually accompanies his listings it would have been nice if he'd actually posted up something more useful on this one. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 I don't recall whether he covers it in his 'counterfeit' videos , I can't be arsed to trawl through all of his channel to find out tbh . I'd tag him here for more info but can't recall his pseudonym. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said: I don't recall whether he covers it in his 'counterfeit' videos , I can't be arsed to trawl through all of his channel to find out tbh . I'd tag him here for more info but can't recall his pseudonym. Just John Manship Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tlscapital said: Just John Manship Tried the obvious in a Member search to no avail , assume he's departed these shores for FB ... ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said: Tried the obvious in a Member search to no avail , assume he's departed these shores for FB ... ? No-no, here is ; https://www.youtube.com/@JohnManshipraresoulman/videos Edited May 6, 2023 by Tlscapital Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, Tlscapital said: No-no, here is ; https://www.youtube.com/@JohnManshipraresoulman/videos No , I meant his name here on Soul Source ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said: No , I meant his name here on Soul Source ... Last I remember seing an "old" post of his on here his account was 'closed' and credited to as 'guest', so yes I believe he's out of here and not back since. Edited May 6, 2023 by Tlscapital 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 normally if you say his name three times, someone connected pops up 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Woodbutcher Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, Source said: normally if you say his name three times, someone connected pops up Last time I made a comment like that I got a right bollocking ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 On 06/05/2023 at 09:13, Tlscapital said: Am not used to check John's auction 'live' pages but what a shame it is that one can't enlarge the record's image directly from the site. Even if not totally at least partially for closer inspection... Like even the eVilBay's offering for minuter details of the records condition and or certification and confidence for the buyer prior placing a bid if ever. Here are the four pictures for the auction in the full resolution that they were uploaded in, not much bigger, but at least 800x800px: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sebastian said: Here are the four pictures for the auction in the full resolution that they were uploaded in, not much bigger, but at least 800x800px: Right, thanks Sebastian but still what would be interesting IMHO would be to have initial higher resolution imaging for less 'blurry' secondary imaging from screen captures of the 'real deal' copy next to the 'counterfeit' vinyl bootleg label like here but even better... Edited May 7, 2023 by Tlscapital Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, Tlscapital said: Right, thanks Sebastian but still what would be interesting IMHO would be to have initial higher resolution imaging for less 'blurry' secondary imaging from screen captures of the 'real deal' copy next to the 'counterfeit' vinyl bootleg label like here but even better... Totally agree. The images posted above by me are not screen captures. The full resolution images can be accessed from John's site if you just delve into the html code and extract the links. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Solidsoul Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) On 05/05/2023 at 22:37, Woodbutcher said: https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/anderson-brothers-i-can-see-him-loving-you-stereo-2-35-same-mono-2-35-version-gsf-6914-dj.html As I remember, it was played plenty of times in Wigan Casino as well! The blog doesn't mention that! Along with other relatively new releases were getting played like Johnny Williams "Something Kinda Mellow" on Babylon, James Bynum "Time Passes By" on Philly City - "Keep On Running Away" Bits n' Pieces and Black & Ward - Stanley Woodruff and lots more things that were coming out of America at that mid 70's time and played in the Casino when they were virtually new releases. Edited December 16, 2023 by Solidsoul 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bo Diddley Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) Here's a "600" scan of the vinyl boot. Sadly, I don't have an original to post. Edited June 13 by Bo Diddley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) dead wax markings for the original... https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/northern-soul-anderson-brothers-gsf-6914-i-can-see-him-loving-you-stereo-mono Three bootlegs. One with the prominent ridge, see the scans on the OP. Soussan boot with PB in the run out and styrene boot with a delta number ∆100274. Edited May 7, 2023 by Chalky 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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